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I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a queen!!
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
Good morning, Sirslemp. Also, on "LeelaQueenOdds" you can watch the games of strong players live if you wish, and at the 1'+0" level you'll find many examples of beautiful matches where the machine or robot literally "crushes its opponents many times over." This will help you begin to understand the robot's brilliant algorithm and its creators and founders.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
The GM in place 2 played against LeelaQueenOdds 33 games recently(13.03-15.03) at 1+0
He won 9 games and lost 12 games and made 12 draws
Leela is black in all games.
He won 9 games and lost 12 games and made 12 draws
Leela is black in all games.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
Here is now the top 20Father wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 12:18 amThank you note and dedication.Uri Blass wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 5:40 am Here is my idea for prizes
1)6 Games at 90+30 and 1 game every day
2)prize for the GM is 64,000$ divided by 2^k when k is the number of half points the GM lose so if the GM win every game the GM win 64000$ but if the result is 3-3 that is what you expect the prize is only 1000$
Note that I did not ask if GM's agree to play in these conditions but if you are feel sure 6-0 result or something close to it is impossible then you believe that you are not taking a big risk and I guess that 64,000$ is probably money that you can pay in the worst case(personally I am not sure that a prepared GM above 2550 cannot win 6-0 in these conditions considering the fact that benjamin is weaker than 2550 and he did not play 90+30 and did not play a single game per day).
Having been in second place on the previous leaderboard, and having seen the new top 100 leaderboard yesterday where my name no longer appeared, I decided to focus and work hard.
The temporal fruits of my effort are sweet and give me joy and satisfaction. But they are also a call to my conscience to give thanks and dedicate this achievement: I am grateful to life and especially to my deceased father and mother. I also thank GM Larry Kaufman and Uriblass for encouraging me to fight the robot. My second place among GMs means a lot to me.
LeelaQueenOdds Leaderboard
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# Player Rating Games Last Game TC
1 SuperEasy 2698 64 2025.03.12 8+3
2 Catecan 2423 400 2025.03.12 1+0
3 pozvonochek 2419 84 2025.03.12 1+0
4 davidb2 2414 72 2025.03.11 2+0
5 Litigator94 2397 43 2025.03.08 3+2
6 Sersemlet 2374 138 2025.02.27 3+2
7 CoolerMove 2360 26 2025.03.11 10+10
8 grandmastergauri 2337 68 2025.03.11 1+1
9 Orichess88 2303 24 2025.03.12 2+3
10 edgebottle 2268 194 2025.03.11 5+5
11 AsheliaXII 2262 38 2025.03.12 15+10
12 White_Phoenix 2252 40 2025.03.12 5+3
13 JudahH 2240 239 2025.03.12 9+0
14 dnilb 2225 105 2025.03.11 2+3
15 RatingEater 2198 85 2025.03.12 3+2
16 pigammazeta 2195 108 2025.03.12 10+21
17 Dalnor 2186 77 2025.03.12 9+3
18 Chrisinc 2180 17 2025.03.05 15+10
19 prompt-engineer 2178 47 2025.03.10 5+3
20 Mikulas 2177 32
Players are improving and place 5 in the list is FM when places 1,2,4 are GM's
1 SuperEasy 2727 71 2025.03.14 8+3
2 pozvonochek 2609 120 2025.03.13 1+0
3 Catecan 2509 535 2025.03.14 1+0
4 davidb2 2414 72 2025.03.11 2+0
5 Orichess88 2400 34 2025.03.14 2+3
6 Litigator94 2397 43 2025.03.08 3+2
7 Sersemlet 2374 138 2025.02.27 3+2
8 CoolerMove 2360 26 2025.03.11 10+10
9 grandmastergauri 2337 68 2025.03.11 1+1
10 AsheliaXII 2268 39 2025.03.12 15+10
11 edgebottle 2266 236 2025.03.14 5+5
12 Dalnor 2266 102 2025.03.14 9+3
13 dnilb 2255 111 2025.03.13 2+3
14 JudahH 2239 242 2025.03.12 9+0
15 White_Phoenix 2235 39 2025.03.12 5+3
16 Mikulas 2232 36 2025.03.14 3+2
17 quetag 2214 28 2025.03.14 6+3
18 Kaidan404 2214 86 2025.03.14 3+2
19 pigammazeta 2212 109 2025.03.14 10+21
20 SodiumAmar 2193 54 2025.03.13 3+2
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
Interesting to compare his (GM Nikita Petrov) total results (all after the Feb 27 upgrade) with White and Black. Playing Black (Queen odds) he has 21 wins, 79 losses, 15 draws for -193 elo. Playing White (Queen and move odds) he has 21 wins, 36 losses, 16 draws for -72 elo. So against him Leela only performed about 120 elo better with White than with Black, less than usual. Since playing White counts as 200 less than playing Black, he would do better on the leaderboard (based on results so far) to let Leela play White every game. If he continues to play a lot with same results, he may reach 2800 or more. Since his actual LiChess blitz rating (the standard for the list) is 2900, that would still be a modest figure for him.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
Good morning, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I hope you're well and continue doing well. So, it seems the competition at the indoor racetrack will look fantastic. I'd like your opinion on the "Catecan Equine" ... what's your prediction? Have a great day and a happy weekend. Thank you again for allowing me to race alongside the best representatives of the competition.lkaufman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:28 amInteresting to compare his (GM Nikita Petrov) total results (all after the Feb 27 upgrade) with White and Black. Playing Black (Queen odds) he has 21 wins, 79 losses, 15 draws for -193 elo. Playing White (Queen and move odds) he has 21 wins, 36 losses, 16 draws for -72 elo. So against him Leela only performed about 120 elo better with White than with Black, less than usual. Since playing White counts as 200 less than playing Black, he would do better on the leaderboard (based on results so far) to let Leela play White every game. If he continues to play a lot with same results, he may reach 2800 or more. Since his actual LiChess blitz rating (the standard for the list) is 2900, that would still be a modest figure for him.
I am thinking chess is in a coin.Human beings for ever playing in one face.Now I am playing in the other face:"Antichess". Computers are as a fortres where owner forgot to close a little door behind. You must enter across this door.Forget the front.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
LeelaQueenOdds is amazingly strong. I always thought that being a queen ahead would be enough to win against god. But I am 1400 Elo and so far I have lost all my games (playing white at TC 15+3). It is amazing how Leela manages to create and exploit all kinds of vulnerabilities, while at the same time maintaining an impenetrable position herself.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
Yes, I also used to think that somewhere around 1400 was enough to win with queen odds against any possible opponent in a serious game. Now it looks like you need to add nearly 1000 to that number, at least for Rapid chess and Lichess ratings. Note that Leela was only trained to play White, so you weren't even playing it at full strength!Michel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:14 pm LeelaQueenOdds is amazingly strong. I always thought that being a queen ahead would be enough to win against god. But I am 1400 Elo and so far I have lost all my games (playing white at TC 15+3). It is amazing how Leela manages to create and exploit all kinds of vulnerabilities, while at the same time maintaining an impenetrable position herself.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
I expect your rating will continue to climb, but so will others if they keep playing. I'm actually not sure why all the ratings aren't higher than they are now, I'll have to investigate. I expect Petrov will remain about a hundred elo above you if you both keep playing, as he scores noticeably better under identical conditions, getting many wins. I have started to play again, and once I have enough time to reach 100 games perhaps I will also be at least in the running for a top five spot. My approach is similar to Joel's, take enough time to win most of the games, in my case ten seconds per move (with a 1 min base).Father wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 1:26 pmGood morning, Mr. Larry Kaufman. I hope you're well and continue doing well. So, it seems the competition at the indoor racetrack will look fantastic. I'd like your opinion on the "Catecan Equine" ... what's your prediction? Have a great day and a happy weekend. Thank you again for allowing me to race alongside the best representatives of the competition.lkaufman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 5:28 amInteresting to compare his (GM Nikita Petrov) total results (all after the Feb 27 upgrade) with White and Black. Playing Black (Queen odds) he has 21 wins, 79 losses, 15 draws for -193 elo. Playing White (Queen and move odds) he has 21 wins, 36 losses, 16 draws for -72 elo. So against him Leela only performed about 120 elo better with White than with Black, less than usual. Since playing White counts as 200 less than playing Black, he would do better on the leaderboard (based on results so far) to let Leela play White every game. If he continues to play a lot with same results, he may reach 2800 or more. Since his actual LiChess blitz rating (the standard for the list) is 2900, that would still be a modest figure for him.
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Re: I toast to LeelaqueenOdds and its creators. I raise my wine glass high and shout: Long live the queen. We have a que
I think 2400 is too much.lkaufman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 6:49 pmYes, I also used to think that somewhere around 1400 was enough to win with queen odds against any possible opponent in a serious game. Now it looks like you need to add nearly 1000 to that number, at least for Rapid chess and Lichess ratings. Note that Leela was only trained to play White, so you weren't even playing it at full strength!Michel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 3:14 pm LeelaQueenOdds is amazingly strong. I always thought that being a queen ahead would be enough to win against god. But I am 1400 Elo and so far I have lost all my games (playing white at TC 15+3). It is amazing how Leela manages to create and exploit all kinds of vulnerabilities, while at the same time maintaining an impenetrable position herself.
Orichess88 is a fide master with less than 2400 and he is strong enough to beat Leela Queen Odds at 2+3
His results in march are 22-17 with 2 draws.
Edit:I see you talk about lichess rating and not fide rating but I still think 2+3 is clearly faster than rapid time control and I do not believe his level at 2+3 is equivalent to 2400 at rapid time control in lichess.