kranium wrote:Larry-lkaufman wrote: If IvanHoe is by different people, don't we need a clear statement from the Ippo authors that IvanHoe represents them, as opposed to Houdini for example? Perhaps I have missed this, was there ever a public statement on the Ippo website that they accept Ivanhoe as the official final Ippo and not Houdini? If so then the case for rating Ivanhoe would be stronger.
I hope I can clarify, but quite frankly, i'm tiring of relaying this info:
There is only 1 IvanHoe...
the authors have just released a new version: 999946
the Linux tarball is available for download here:
www.ippolit.wikispaces.com
several people are compiling this native Linux code for Windows...
using both Microsoft VC ++ and Intel compilers.
these people include:
KLO (King Liveson)
www.open-chess.org
He generally releases only compiles of the original code from ippolit.wikispaces.com and operates an excellent FTP/http download site:
http://chess.cygnitec.com/engine/ivanhoe/
PeterPan and others
at the notorious Russian 'Immortal' chess website
have released many many dozens (hundreds? of compile/versions?)
please note:
these individuals generally only 'compile' the code released at ippolit.wikispace.com by the 'Decembrists'...
sometime they adjusting piece values...
my involvement has been from the very beginning (summer 2009)...not as compiler but as 'collaborating' Windows developer
the history of which is well documented:
www.chesslogik.com and immortalchess.net
when ippolit was 1st released (summer 2009), it was completely unusable on windows, (as well as unstable on Linux), and the code was written in a sort Italian/Albanian dialect
myself (with help from Sentinel), developed and released more than a dozen public betas for testing on Immortal, end of 2009
the final release was RoboLito 0.09 which remains today near the top of all lists, especially single CPU...
It is this version that corresponds exactly with Houdini 1.0
IvanHoe is the recent name/version of Ippolit/Robbolito/Iggorit chronology of ippolit.wikispaces.com releases...
the authors are (still):
Yakov Petrovich Golyadkin, Igor Igorovich Igoronov, Roberto Pescatore, Yusuf Ralf Weisskopf, Ivan Skavinsky Skavar plus Decembrists (all)
the authors (especially Roberto Pescatore) frequently answer questions and converse on the ippolit website
Thanks for the information. I still have a couple of questions about it.
1. Did the Ippolit authors ask you to continue development, or was it your own idea?
2. If it was your own idea, did the authors ever state clearly on their website that you were authorized by them to take over the development?
3. How does "Fire" fit into the picture? Is there some basis for saying that the authors of Ippolit have stated that Ivanhoe rather than Fire is to be considered the official Ippolit now?
What I'm trying to clarify is whether there is a clear statement from the Ippolit authors that Ivanhoe rather than Fire or Houdini or anything else is the "true" Ippolit, or whether this is the claim just of the developer of Ivanhoe itself (i.e. you)? None of this is a criticism of you, I'm just trying to establish whether the actual authors have made clear whom they want to represent them.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
On an unrelated note, If you are opposed to Capitalism why would you want engine authors to be paid for their sales to testers? You should oppose anyone paying for copies to be consistent! Also, haven't you tried to sell software yourself in the past? Of course I see nothing wrong with that, but it seems inconsistent with your claim to opposing Capitalism.