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Jouni
Posts: 3721 Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm
Full name: Jouni Uski
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by Jouni » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:22 pm
I was surprised
. Neutral book, 1 core, short time control. SF 3.8.2024.
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1 ShashChess35.1 +5 +13/=177/-10 50.75% 101.5/200
2 SFdev -5 +10/=177/-13 49.25% 98.5/200
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Guenther
Posts: 4718 Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:33 am
Location: Regensburg, Germany
Full name: Guenther Simon
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by Guenther » Sat Aug 17, 2024 5:08 pm
Jouni wrote: ↑ Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:22 pm
I was surprised :) . Neutral book, 1 core, short time control. SF 3.8.2024.
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1 ShashChess35.1 +5 +13/=177/-10 50.75% 101.5/200
2 SFdev -5 +10/=177/-13 49.25% 98.5/200
Play SFdev vs. SFdev again with low 200 games and you will be surprised once more. Funny how often you are surprised when others are bored...
BTW you omitted the error bars.
(someone might also ask for the games - but the experience with 'games' produced by you was suboptimal so far, to say it in an euphemistic way)
Jouni
Posts: 3721 Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:15 pm
Full name: Jouni Uski
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by Jouni » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:29 pm
This confirms, that there is no significant progress in last moths. Fastest win here
[pgn]
[Event "My Tournament"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2024.08.16"]
[Round "89"]
[White "ShashChess35.1"]
[Black "SFdev"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B40"]
[PlyCount "80"]
[EventDate "2024.??.??"]
[TimeControl "20"]
1. e4 {book} c5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} e6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} a6 {book} 4. d4 {
book} cxd4 {book} 5. Nxd4 {book} d6 {book} 6. g4 {book} Ne7 {book} 7. g5 {book}
Nec6 {book} 8. Be3 {book} b5 {book} 9. Nb3 {0.75/22 2.6s} Nd7 {-0.72/22 3.4s}
10. Qd2 {0.75/18 0.36s} Nb6 {-0.70/19 0.38s} 11. f4 {0.72/19 0.52s} b4 {-0.67/
19 0.45s} 12. Qf2 {0.68/18 0.60s} Rb8 {-0.66/19 0.52s} 13. Ne2 {0.75/18 0.32s}
Qc7 {-0.82/19 1.3s} 14. Ng3 {0.82/16 0.33s} a5 {-0.82/18 0.34s} 15. O-O-O {0.
76/20 1.5s} a4 {-0.85/18 0.48s} 16. Nd4 {0.79/15 0.21s} Nxd4 {-0.90/18 0.69s}
17. Rxd4 {0.83/17 0.33s} d5 {-0.96/22 3.4s} 18. Kb1 {0.83/18 1.5s} Bc5 {-0.47/
15 0.39s} 19. Nh5 {0.81/14 0.35s} O-O {-1.06/20 3.5s} 20. Bd3 {0.97/19 1.3s} b3
{-0.84/19 1.2s} 21. cxb3 {0.73/15 0.82s} axb3 {-0.76/17 0.25s} 22. a3 {0.90/16
0.94s} e5 {-0.47/17 0.61s} 23. Nf6+ {0.89/14 0.24s} gxf6 {0.12/14 0.15s} 24.
gxf6 {0.91/19 0.57s} Bf5 {0.67/15 0.27s} 25. exf5 {1.10/16 0.51s} Kh8 {0.60/16
0.27s} 26. Rg1 {1.73/15 0.28s} Rg8 {0.19/20 0.93s} 27. fxe5 {2.07/15 0.34s}
Qxe5 {0.11/18 0.25s} 28. Rg6 {2.51/16 0.40s} Bxd4 {-3.04/24 3.2s} 29. Bxd4 {2.
80/17 0.26s} Qc7 {-3.55/22 1.3s} 30. Rxg8+ {3.33/16 0.40s} Rxg8 {-3.52/15 0.12s
} 31. Bxb6 {3.54/18 0.41s} Qd6 {-3.49/18 0.16s} 32. Bd4 {3.67/19 1.1s} Qc7 {-3.
63/23 0.98s} 33. Be3 {3.69/16 0.56s} Re8 {-3.50/17 0.10s} 34. Qg2 {4.51/16 0.
24s} Rg8 {-4.42/18 0.16s} 35. Qxd5 {4.58/17 0.49s} Rb8 {-4.35/21 0.45s} 36. Ka1
{4.87/15 0.51s} Qb7 {-4.59/20 0.24s} 37. Qxb7 {5.24/19 1.2s} Rxb7 {-5.02/16 0.
090s} 38. Kb1 {5.51/17 0.28s} Rd7 {-4.76/13 0.032s} 39. Bc4 {5.69/18 0.35s} Kg8
{-5.01/19 0.44s} 40. a4 {5.49/19 0.66s} Rd1+ {-6.06/18 0.24s, White wins by
adjudication} 1-0
[/pgn]
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Viz
Posts: 223 Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:24 am
Full name: Michael Chaly
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by Viz » Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:28 am
With this type of test you literally will need like 100 elo progress to consistently win a match.
And with this type of conditions ofc sf dev will beat sf dev also quite consistently, even if you weaken it by some 10-20 elo like shashchess you still obviously can luck it out.