Good test......Dedicated and portables only..!

[rightrook]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

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RISC......1 min. 6 sec.

Novag Sapphire2.......1 min....53 sec.

Mach3.......................10 min. ...6 ply

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply

You can compare your portable with these results....

Robert

[Rubinus]

FEN: 2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

Spike 1.2 Turin (unknown processor - library , Intel Celeron D, freq ?, flash disk, Arena, 4MB hash)
0 00:00 0 0 +1,13
1 00:00 220 2.750 +0,66 Va1c1 Dc7c5+ Vf1f2
1 00:00 346 3.844 +0,66 Va1c1 Dc7c5+ Vf1f2
2 00:00 397 4.411 +0,51 Va1c1 Dc7d7
2 00:00 767 8.522 +0,51 Va1c1 Dc7d7
3 00:00 1.625 16.250 +0,26 Va1c1 Vh8e8 Vf1f2
3 00:00 3.588 35.880 +0,67 b2b3 Se5d4+ Kg1h1 Vh8e8
3 00:00 4.985 45.318 +0,67 b2b3 Se5d4+ Kg1h1 Vh8e8
4 00:00 7.263 60.525 -1,56 b2b3 Vh8e8 De2a2 Dc7c5+ Vf1f2 Se5xa1 Da2xa1
4 00:00 9.301 71.546 -0,16 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2d2 f6f5
4 00:00 17.593 125.664 -0,16 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2d2 f6f5
5 00:00 21.274 141.826 -0,44 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 b2b3 Dc5xf2+ Vf1xf2
5 00:00 43.838 208.752 -0,44 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 b2b3 Dc5xf2+ Vf1xf2
6+ 00:00 50.126 217.939 -0,14 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3
6+ 00:00 50.126 217.939 -0,14 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3
6 00:00 56.952 227.808 -0,03 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3 Dc5b4
6 00:00 88.997 286.163 -0,03 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3 Dc5b4
7 00:00 123.356 323.769 +0,01 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3 Dc5b4 Df2h4
7 00:00 193.710 371.804 +0,01 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3 Dc5b4 Df2h4
8 00:00 237.021 387.923 -0,02 Va1c1 Vh8e8 De2f2 Dc7c5 Sh6e3 Dc5b4 Df2h4 Kf7g8
8+ 00:00 279.993 405.199 +0,31 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Ke7f8 Va1f1+ Kf8g7 Dg4d7+
8+ 00:00 279.993 405.199 +0,31 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Ke7f8 Va1f1+ Kf8g7 Dg4d7+
8 00:00 340.674 420.066 +1,75 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Dg4e6+ Ke7d8 Sg5xf6+ Kd8c7 Sf6xh8 Vc8xh8 De6e7+ Kc7b8
8 00:00 362.567 426.048 +1,75 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Dg4e6+ Ke7d8 Sg5xf6+ Kd8c7 Sf6xh8 Vc8xh8 De6e7+ Kc7b8
9+ 00:01 590.407 460.535 +2,05 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Va1e1+ Ke7f8 Sg5h6+ Sf6g7 Ve1f1+ Kf8e8 Sh6xg7
9+ 00:01 590.407 456.971 +2,05 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Va1e1+ Ke7f8 Sg5h6+ Sf6g7 Ve1f1+ Kf8e8 Sh6xg7
9 00:01 835.648 482.197 +2,92 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Va1e1+ Ke7d8 Sg5xf6+ Kd8c7 Sf6xh8 Vc8xh8 Ve1e7+ Kc7b8
9 00:01 861.526 485.914 +2,92 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Sh6g5+ Se5f6 Va1e1+ Ke7d8 Sg5xf6+ Kd8c7 Sf6xh8 Vc8xh8 Ve1e7+ Kc7b8
10+ 00:01 966.365 489.794 +3,22 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Va1f1 Se5f6 Vf1xf6
10+ 00:01 966.365 489.794 +3,22 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Va1f1 Se5f6 Vf1xf6
10+ 00:02 1.231.215 493.670 +5,22 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Va1f1 Se5f6 Vf1xf6
10 00:05 3.045.770 519.844 +6,29 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Va1f1 Vc8f8 Sh6xf8+ Ke7d8 Vf1f7 Dc5c7 Dg4e6 Dc7xf7 De6xf7
10 00:05 3.086.212 520.528 +6,29 Vf1xf6+ Kf7xf6 De2g4 Dc7c5+ Kg1h1 Kf6e7 Va1f1 Vc8f8 Sh6xf8+ Ke7d8 Vf1f7 Dc5c7 Dg4e6 Dc7xf7 De6xf7

[Steve B]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply


Robert

here is an odd result Rob
i set up the position on the Diablo(same exact program and hardware as the Scorpio)

but the Diablo finds Rxf6+...in "only " 19 minutes and 46 seconds and 7 ply ..not 25 minutes

the only difference between the two computers is the housing with the Diablo in rich wood

i guess this is just another example of why wood is ALWAYS best



A Happy Easter To You Regards
Steve

[Terry McCracken]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply


Robert

here is an odd result Rob
i set up the position on the Diablo(same exact program and hardware as the Scorpio)

but the Diablo finds Rxf6+...in "only " 19 minutes and 46 seconds and 7 ply ..not 25 minutes

the only difference between the two computers is the housing with the Diablo in rich wood

i guess this is just another example of why wood is ALWAYS best



A Happy Easter To You Regards
Steve

The program has been refined in the Diablo, not surprising really.

Terry

[Steve B]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply


Robert

here is an odd result Rob
i set up the position on the Diablo(same exact program and hardware as the Scorpio)

but the Diablo finds Rxf6+...in "only " 19 minutes and 46 seconds and 7 ply ..not 25 minutes

the only difference between the two computers is the housing with the Diablo in rich wood

i guess this is just another example of why wood is ALWAYS best



A Happy Easter To You Regards
Steve

The program has been refined in the Diablo, not surprising really.

Terry

no i dont think so Terry
they were suppoised to be exactly the same except one was a less expensive plastic version and one wood

both computers have the same EXACT ratiing of 2012 Elo

Best Steve

[Terry McCracken]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply


Robert

here is an odd result Rob
i set up the position on the Diablo(same exact program and hardware as the Scorpio)

but the Diablo finds Rxf6+...in "only " 19 minutes and 46 seconds and 7 ply ..not 25 minutes

the only difference between the two computers is the housing with the Diablo in rich wood

i guess this is just another example of why wood is ALWAYS best



A Happy Easter To You Regards
Steve

The program has been refined in the Diablo, not surprising really.

Terry

no i dont think so Terry
they were suppoised to be exactly the same except one was a less expensive plastic version and one wood

both computers have the same EXACT ratiing of 2012 Elo

Best Steve

If the timings are that different, either the change is with the software or hardware.

It very well could be either or even both. Something is different, regardless of the housing.

There are differences between the Excel Mach III Master and the Designer Mach III Master, both in plastic btw.

Test them and you'll see I'm right.

Timings are different in many cases. The Excel Mach III Master was poorly made and designed, and that is why I swapped the Excel Mach III with Fidelity Electronics for the Designer Mach III after going through two Excel Mach III lemons after a lot of wrangling and discussion with Fidelity Electronics, who btw never openly conceded that I was right, but caved under pressure. Of course I was right and Fidelity Electronics knew it, but couldn't come out and say I was right, as that would have put them in a bigger bind.

Terry

[tiger]

[d]2r4r/2q2k1p/pp1p1ppB/3Pb3/P1P5/8/1P2Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1

White plays...Rxf6+...

Smyslov vrs Grigorian....1976

------------------------------

RISC......1 min. 6 sec.

Novag Sapphire2.......1 min....53 sec.

Mach3.......................10 min. ...6 ply

Novag Scorpio.........25 min. ......7 ply

You can compare your portable with these results....

Robert

Chess Tiger 2007 for PalmOS plays Rxf6+ in 2min 02s at ply depth 10 (Palm TX, 768Kb hash tables).


// Christophe

[rafowell]

On my 126MHz PalmOS Tungsten E PDA:

0 min 25 seconds - HIARCS 9.5a
> 4 min 12 seconds - Chess Genius 2.3
(Chess Genius picked another move, even at the
longest time control I can set)

[Cubeman]

These results are using my iPaq 2790 624mhz PPC.All using max Hash.
Toga ll 1.2.1a in PocketGrandMaster GUI, 6 secs.
Fruit 2.1 in PocketGrandMaster GUI, 25 secs.
PocketFritz2, 2 secs!!
Hiarcs 9.6 using StyleTap emulator, 4 secs.
Chess Genius 1.801, 51 secs.

[Steve B]

perhaps but i think what happened here is far less technical then all of that


when i set up a position i stare at the computer the entire time until the intended move is shown....here i think Rob the Master Puzzler probably set up the position on the Scorpio then after about 10-15 minutes and not yet seeing the correct move ,and after a long hard day of position solving..dozed off and when he awoke..25 minutes had elapsed and the move in the Scorpio's display was the intended Rxf6

Retrograde Analysis Regards
Steve
PS..I see i am the only one that replied to this thread with a dedicated chess computer
i am wondering..what exactly about the thread title "Dedicated and portables only..!..does everyone not understand ?