Release : Chess System Tal EXTREME

[Werewolf]

Thanks, I got a copy.
I have always enjoyed the pirates over the wall style of CSTal.

When you next speak to Ed, suggest he ramp up the extremism to absurd levels. This will produce even more wild games but will reduce Elo even more. No matter, the Elo is way above GM level anyway, so crippling it down more with wild play could bring it down to the level of ordinary strong humans, which would be a big bonus, no?

It certainly can be done, most simple way, create more aggressive neural nets.

Please do. The chess world doesn't need another world-class engine as much as it needs this.

Something like this ?

Absurd version 1.0

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Playing Style Rating-list  Wed Feb  4 17:13:41 2026
 STYLE   King          Short           
 Total  Attack   %     Games   %     Sacs    %    Engine
671175  202455 22.5%  185779 51.0%  282941 55.9%  Absurd 1.0  
481331  189556 25.9%  133970 53.4%  157805 38.4%  Chess System Tal Extreme  
462072  187137 26.2%  129612 53.0%  145323 36.9%  Rebel Extreme 1.1  
427703  162557 23.9%  132348 55.2%  132798 35.5%  CSTal 2.1 EAS  
418894  143209 23.6%  131425 52.8%  144260 38.9%  Patricia 3.01  
373990  149388 27.4%   84604 45.2%  139998 38.5%  Patricia 5 xtremeEAS  

or EAS :

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                         early           bad  avg.win 
Rank  EAS-Score  sacs    sacs   shorts  draws  moves  Engine/player 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1   1660248  60.55%  37.88%  82.57%  04.63%   46   Absurd-1.0  
   2    749461  52.00%  21.44%  54.30%  05.60%   48   Chess-System-Tal-Extreme  
   3    713389  48.36%  20.68%  53.63%  06.40%   48   Rebel-Extreme-1.1  
   4    678346  56.72%  22.42%  45.22%  04.26%   52   Patricia-5-xtremeEAS  
   5    662116  47.97%  23.10%  44.80%  05.02%   53   Patricia-3.01  

Still 3000+ elo.

Truly beautiful.
Is it...available to download?

[Rebel]

Thanks, I got a copy.
I have always enjoyed the pirates over the wall style of CSTal.

When you next speak to Ed, suggest he ramp up the extremism to absurd levels. This will produce even more wild games but will reduce Elo even more. No matter, the Elo is way above GM level anyway, so crippling it down more with wild play could bring it down to the level of ordinary strong humans, which would be a big bonus, no?

It certainly can be done, most simple way, create more aggressive neural nets.

Please do. The chess world doesn't need another world-class engine as much as it needs this.

Something like this ?

Absurd version 1.0

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Playing Style Rating-list  Wed Feb  4 17:13:41 2026
 STYLE   King          Short           
 Total  Attack   %     Games   %     Sacs    %    Engine
671175  202455 22.5%  185779 51.0%  282941 55.9%  Absurd 1.0  
481331  189556 25.9%  133970 53.4%  157805 38.4%  Chess System Tal Extreme  
462072  187137 26.2%  129612 53.0%  145323 36.9%  Rebel Extreme 1.1  
427703  162557 23.9%  132348 55.2%  132798 35.5%  CSTal 2.1 EAS  
418894  143209 23.6%  131425 52.8%  144260 38.9%  Patricia 3.01  
373990  149388 27.4%   84604 45.2%  139998 38.5%  Patricia 5 xtremeEAS  

or EAS :

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                         early           bad  avg.win 
Rank  EAS-Score  sacs    sacs   shorts  draws  moves  Engine/player 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1   1660248  60.55%  37.88%  82.57%  04.63%   46   Absurd-1.0  
   2    749461  52.00%  21.44%  54.30%  05.60%   48   Chess-System-Tal-Extreme  
   3    713389  48.36%  20.68%  53.63%  06.40%   48   Rebel-Extreme-1.1  
   4    678346  56.72%  22.42%  45.22%  04.26%   52   Patricia-5-xtremeEAS  
   5    662116  47.97%  23.10%  44.80%  05.02%   53   Patricia-3.01  

Still 3000+ elo.

Truly beautiful.
Is it...available to download?

Sure, if Chris agrees.

But first I need to finish the complete testing.

A nice one.

[pgn][Event "Best of Chess"]
[Site "King-Attacks, Sacrifices, Short Games"]
[Date "2026.02.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Absurd-1.0"]
[Black "Clover-3.3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "55"]
[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d5 d6 4. e4 g6 5. f4 Bg7 6. Bb5+ Nfd7 7. a4 Na6 8.
Nf3 Nc7 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O a6 11. f5 Nf6 12. Qe1 gxf5 13. Qh4 b5 14. Bh6 b4
15. Ng5 bxc3 16. Rf3 cxb2 17. Raf1 f4 18. Rxf4 Nce8 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. Rxf6
Nxf6 21. Rxf6 b1=Q+ 22. Kf2 h5 23. Qxh5 Kxf6 24. e5+ dxe5 25. Qh6+ Kf5 26.
g4+ Kf4 27. Ne6+ Ke4 28. Bf3# 1-0[/pgn]

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[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

[Werewolf]

Stunning.

Art is more than Elo.

[Robert Flesher]

Thanks, I got a copy.
I have always enjoyed the pirates over the wall style of CSTal.

When you next speak to Ed, suggest he ramp up the extremism to absurd levels. This will produce even more wild games but will reduce Elo even more. No matter, the Elo is way above GM level anyway, so crippling it down more with wild play could bring it down to the level of ordinary strong humans, which would be a big bonus, no?

It certainly can be done, most simple way, create more aggressive neural nets.

Please do. The chess world doesn't need another world-class engine as much as it needs this.

Something like this ?

Absurd version 1.0

Code: Select all

Playing Style Rating-list  Wed Feb  4 17:13:41 2026
 STYLE   King          Short           
 Total  Attack   %     Games   %     Sacs    %    Engine
671175  202455 22.5%  185779 51.0%  282941 55.9%  Absurd 1.0  
481331  189556 25.9%  133970 53.4%  157805 38.4%  Chess System Tal Extreme  
462072  187137 26.2%  129612 53.0%  145323 36.9%  Rebel Extreme 1.1  
427703  162557 23.9%  132348 55.2%  132798 35.5%  CSTal 2.1 EAS  
418894  143209 23.6%  131425 52.8%  144260 38.9%  Patricia 3.01  
373990  149388 27.4%   84604 45.2%  139998 38.5%  Patricia 5 xtremeEAS  

or EAS :

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                         early           bad  avg.win 
Rank  EAS-Score  sacs    sacs   shorts  draws  moves  Engine/player 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1   1660248  60.55%  37.88%  82.57%  04.63%   46   Absurd-1.0  
   2    749461  52.00%  21.44%  54.30%  05.60%   48   Chess-System-Tal-Extreme  
   3    713389  48.36%  20.68%  53.63%  06.40%   48   Rebel-Extreme-1.1  
   4    678346  56.72%  22.42%  45.22%  04.26%   52   Patricia-5-xtremeEAS  
   5    662116  47.97%  23.10%  44.80%  05.02%   53   Patricia-3.01  

Still 3000+ elo.

Truly beautiful.
Is it...available to download?

Sure, if Chris agrees.

But first I need to finish the complete testing.

A nice one.

[pgn][Event "Best of Chess"]
[Site "King-Attacks, Sacrifices, Short Games"]
[Date "2026.02.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Absurd-1.0"]
[Black "Clover-3.3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "55"]
[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d5 d6 4. e4 g6 5. f4 Bg7 6. Bb5+ Nfd7 7. a4 Na6 8.
Nf3 Nc7 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O a6 11. f5 Nf6 12. Qe1 gxf5 13. Qh4 b5 14. Bh6 b4
15. Ng5 bxc3 16. Rf3 cxb2 17. Raf1 f4 18. Rxf4 Nce8 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. Rxf6
Nxf6 21. Rxf6 b1=Q+ 22. Kf2 h5 23. Qxh5 Kxf6 24. e5+ dxe5 25. Qh6+ Kf5 26.
g4+ Kf4 27. Ne6+ Ke4 28. Bf3# 1-0[/pgn]

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[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

Ed, you need to get this on the chess servers and hopefully entice Hikaru to play this beast. Perhaps, name it "Eats Super GM's" Line set! Then wait for a bite? lol

[Dann Corbit]

CSTE:
You're that smart?

SuperGM:
Let me put it this way: Have you ever heard of Fischer? Kasparov? Carlsen?

CSTE:
Yes.

SuperGM:
Morons.

CSTE:
Really? In that case, I challenge you to a battle of chess.

[chrisw]

Thanks, I got a copy.
I have always enjoyed the pirates over the wall style of CSTal.

When you next speak to Ed, suggest he ramp up the extremism to absurd levels. This will produce even more wild games but will reduce Elo even more. No matter, the Elo is way above GM level anyway, so crippling it down more with wild play could bring it down to the level of ordinary strong humans, which would be a big bonus, no?

It certainly can be done, most simple way, create more aggressive neural nets.

Please do. The chess world doesn't need another world-class engine as much as it needs this.

Something like this ?

Absurd version 1.0

Code: Select all

Playing Style Rating-list  Wed Feb  4 17:13:41 2026
 STYLE   King          Short           
 Total  Attack   %     Games   %     Sacs    %    Engine
671175  202455 22.5%  185779 51.0%  282941 55.9%  Absurd 1.0  
481331  189556 25.9%  133970 53.4%  157805 38.4%  Chess System Tal Extreme  
462072  187137 26.2%  129612 53.0%  145323 36.9%  Rebel Extreme 1.1  
427703  162557 23.9%  132348 55.2%  132798 35.5%  CSTal 2.1 EAS  
418894  143209 23.6%  131425 52.8%  144260 38.9%  Patricia 3.01  
373990  149388 27.4%   84604 45.2%  139998 38.5%  Patricia 5 xtremeEAS  

or EAS :

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                         early           bad  avg.win 
Rank  EAS-Score  sacs    sacs   shorts  draws  moves  Engine/player 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
   1   1660248  60.55%  37.88%  82.57%  04.63%   46   Absurd-1.0  
   2    749461  52.00%  21.44%  54.30%  05.60%   48   Chess-System-Tal-Extreme  
   3    713389  48.36%  20.68%  53.63%  06.40%   48   Rebel-Extreme-1.1  
   4    678346  56.72%  22.42%  45.22%  04.26%   52   Patricia-5-xtremeEAS  
   5    662116  47.97%  23.10%  44.80%  05.02%   53   Patricia-3.01  

Still 3000+ elo.

Truly beautiful.
Is it...available to download?

Sure, if Chris agrees.

But first I need to finish the complete testing.

A nice one.

[pgn][Event "Best of Chess"]
[Site "King-Attacks, Sacrifices, Short Games"]
[Date "2026.02.04"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Absurd-1.0"]
[Black "Clover-3.3"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "55"]
[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nc3 c5 3. d5 d6 4. e4 g6 5. f4 Bg7 6. Bb5+ Nfd7 7. a4 Na6 8.
Nf3 Nc7 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O a6 11. f5 Nf6 12. Qe1 gxf5 13. Qh4 b5 14. Bh6 b4
15. Ng5 bxc3 16. Rf3 cxb2 17. Raf1 f4 18. Rxf4 Nce8 19. Bxg7 Kxg7 20. Rxf6
Nxf6 21. Rxf6 b1=Q+ 22. Kf2 h5 23. Qxh5 Kxf6 24. e5+ dxe5 25. Qh6+ Kf5 26.
g4+ Kf4 27. Ne6+ Ke4 28. Bf3# 1-0[/pgn]

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[King "9168"]
[Short "5200"]
[Sac "16000"]
[Total "30368"]

Sure thing, go ahead when you’re ready. Cool game.

[Rebel]

Sure thing, go ahead when you’re ready. Cool game.

Made a start.

https://rebel7775.wixsite.com/rebel/absurd-1-0

More tomorrow.