New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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test-12

Minic 3.40 NN - Wasp 6.50 NN              6.0	-	6.0		50.00%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Wasp 6.63 NN dev          6.5	-	5.5		54.17%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Akimbo 0.8.0 NN           6.5	-	5.5		54.17%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Starzix 3.0 NN            8.0	-	4.0		66.67%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Clarity 4.1.0 NN          6.5	-	5.5		54.17%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Caissa 1.16 NN            4.5	-	6.5		40.91%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Counter 5.5 NN           10.0	-	2.0		83.33%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Pawn 3.0 NN               5.5	-	5.5		50.00%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Texel 1.11 NN             6.0	-	5.0		54.55%		
Minic 3.40 NN - RubiChess 20240112 NN     3.5	-	7.5		31.82%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Avalanche 2.1.0 NN        9.0	-	2.0		81.82%		
Minic 3.40 NN - Lizard 10.1 NN            6.5	-	3.5		65.00%
		
78.5	-	58.5		57.30%
Could be very interesting with Minic 3.40 NN.
Like the work Vivien do for us, have a look in the UCI features (some interesting things are inside).
Very, very nice engines, not easy to beat ...

I think I have the results tomorow in the morning.
Have to watch the matches on TV now ...

Sirs, have a nice Sunday evening (23:29 in Germany).

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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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10. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN
12. Minic 3.40 NN
13. Renegade 1.0.0 NN ... still running on Wasp-1
14. Arasan 24.1 NN ... still running on Wasp-2 (need a while)

v12

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              Name                 Games     Win     Draw     Lose       Pts         S-B         %    wins-55m  lost-55m  AV-wins  AV-draws  AV-all

01. RubiChess 20240112 NN       :   600  :  299+  :  297=  :    4-  :   447.5  : 125155.50  :  74.58%    36         0       79       78        79
02. Caissa 1.16 NN              :   600  :  284+  :  313=  :    3-  :   440.5  : 123121.25  :  73.42%    15         0       85       81        83
03. Minic 3.40 NN               :   600  :  124+  :  400=  :   76-  :   324.0  :  91212.75  :  54.00%     5         9       95       93        92
04. Pawn 3.0 NN                 :   600  :  122+  :  391=  :   87-  :   317.5  :  88809.50  :  52.92%     4         7       82       87        86
05. Akimbo 0.8.0 NN             :   600  :  125+  :  379=  :   96-  :   314.5  :  87143.00  :  52.42%     5        11       91       92        90
06. Starzix 3.0 NN              :   600  :  110+  :  395=  :   95-  :   307.5  :  85214.00  :  51.25%     3        11       91       91        89
07. Texel 1.11 NN               :   600  :  107+  :  376=  :  117-  :   295.0  :  81823.75  :  49.17%    15         1       76       90        87
08. Wasp 6.63 NN dev            :   600  :   95+  :  397=  :  108-  :   293.5  :  82280.00  :  48.92%    23         0       79       80        82
09. Lizard 10.1 NN              :   600  :   96+  :  389=  :  115-  :   290.5  :  81179.00  :  48.42%     6        10       88       95        91
10. Wasp 6.50 NN                :   600  :  101+  :  375=  :  124-  :   288.5  :  79431.50  :  48.08%    14         2       78       80        82
11. Clarity 4.1.0 NN            :   600  :   44+  :  371=  :  185-  :   229.5  :  65027.50  :  38.25%     0        13       95       83        84
12. Counter 5.5 NN              :   600  :   31+  :  290=  :  279-  :   176.0  :  50427.00  :  29.33%     3        21       84      100        94
13. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN          :   600  :   34+  :  283=  :  283-  :   175.5  :  50393.75  :  29.25%     0        44       92       84        81


White Wins =  1.020 ( 26.15% )
Draws      =  2.328 ( 59.69% )
Black Wins =    552 ( 14.15% )
Average    = 171.78 ( 85,89 moves )

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   # Player                   :      Elo  Games  Score%  won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
   1 RubiChess 20240112 NN    :  3499.67    600    74.6  299   297     4   447.5   49.5  17.85  3298.75  15.23   12.0
   2 Caissa 1.16 NN           :  3489.55    600    73.4  284   313     3   440.5   52.2  17.78  3299.60  15.23   12.0
   3 Minic 3.40 NN            :  3341.71    600    54.0  124   400    76   324.0   66.7  14.63  3311.92  15.50   12.0
   4 Pawn 3.0 NN              :  3334.05    600    52.9  122   391    87   317.5   65.2  14.69  3312.56  15.49   12.0
   5 Akimbo 0.8.0 NN          :  3330.52    600    52.4  125   379    96   314.5   63.2  14.20  3312.85  15.53   12.0
   6 Starzix 3.0 NN           :  3322.30    600    51.3  110   395    95   307.5   65.8  14.56  3313.54  15.50   12.0
   7 Texel 1.11 NN            :  3307.63    600    49.2  107   376   117   295.0   62.7  14.88  3314.76  15.48   12.0
   8 Wasp 6.63 NN dev         :  3305.87    600    48.9   95   397   108   293.5   66.2  14.54  3314.90  15.51   12.0
   9 Lizard 10.1 NN           :  3302.35    600    48.4   96   389   115   290.5   64.8  14.52  3315.20  15.51   12.0
  10 Wasp 6.50 NN             :  3300.00    600    48.1  101   375   124   288.5   62.5  14.05  3315.39  15.55   12.0
  11 Clarity 4.1.0 NN         :  3229.63    600    38.3   44   371   185   229.5   61.8  15.64  3321.26  15.41   12.0
  12 Counter 5.5 NN           :  3161.07    600    29.3   31   290   279   176.0   48.3  16.09  3326.97  15.38   12.0
  13 Avalanche 2.1.0 NN       :  3160.39    600    29.3   34   283   283   175.5   47.2  17.18  3327.03  15.28   12.0

White advantage = 48.47 +/- 3.54
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 74.72 % +/- 0.94
Now all games from Avalanche 2.1.0 NN and Minic 3.40 NN are inside.

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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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First results from the "new" engine from Hungary.

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Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Wasp 6.50 NN            5.5	-	5.5		50.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Wasp 6.63 NN dev        5.0	-	6.0		45.45%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Akimbo 0.8.0 NN         4.5	-	5.5		45.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Starzix 3.0 NN          4.0	-	7.0		36.36%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Clarity 4.1.0 NN        5.0	-	5.0		50.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Caissa 1.16 NN          2.0	-	9.0		18.18%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Counter 5.5 NN          8.0	-	2.0		80.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Pawn 3.0 NN             4.0	-	6.0		40.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Texel 1.11 NN           6.5	-	3.5		65.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - RubiChess 20240112 NN   2.5	-	7.5		25.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Avalanche 2.1.0 NN      4.5	-	5.5		45.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Lizard 10.1 NN          4.0	-	6.0		40.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Minic 3.40 NN           4.5	-	5.5		45.00%

60.0	-	74.0		44.78%
Can be around 3260 Elo, indeed very strong!

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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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OK, in the last 25 years I am looking not every year for quantity of TOP-75 releases!
But after all I remember ... in the year 2021 we had a month with 16 engine updates / new engines in one month only (I am looking for TOP-75 only).

January 2024
14 engine updates / new engines in 15 days.

Very nice to see ...
A new generation of very strong engines / programmers comes with full-speed to us.

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2024

14. Arasan 24.1 NN                                       executable = January 14th, 2024     Test on Wasp-2 = still running / need a while
    Jon Dart, USA
    https://www.arasanchess.org/index.shtml
    https://github.com/jdart1/arasan-chess

13. Renegade 1.0.0 NN                                    executable = January 13th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1 = still running
    Krisztián Peőcz (HUN)
    https://github.com/pkrisz99/Renegade/
	
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12. Minic 3.40 NN                                        executable = January 14th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1 = v12
    Vivien CLAUZON, FRA
    https://github.com/tryingsomestuff/Minic

11. Lizard 10.1 NN                                       released   = January 13th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1
(2) Lizard 10.1 NN replaced Lizard 10.0 NN
    Liam McGuire, USA
    https://github.com/liamt19/Lizard

10. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN                                   executable = January 13th, 2024     Test on Wasp 2
    Yinuo Huang, CHN
    https://github.com/SnowballSH/Avalanche

09. RubiChess 20240112 NN                                executable = January 12th, 2024     Test on Wasp 1
    Andreas Matthies, GER
    https://github.com/Matthies/RubiChess/

08. Texel 1.11 NN                                        executable = January 12th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1
    Peter Österlund, SWE
    https://github.com/peterosterlund2/texel

07. Pawn 3.0 NN                                          executable = January 12th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1
    Rui Coelho, POR
    https://github.com/ruicoelhopedro/pawn

06. Counter 5.5 NN                                       released   = January 12th, 2024     Test on Wasp-1
    Vadim Chizhov, RUS
    https://github.com/ChizhovVadim/CounterGo/

05. Caissa 1.16 NN                                       executable = January 11th, 2024     Test on Wasp-2
    Michal Witanowski, POL
    https://github.com/Witek902/Caissa

04. Clarity 4.1.0 NN                                     executable = January 07th, 2024     Test on Wasp-2
    Joseph Pasfield, USA
    https://github.com/Vast342/Clarity

03. Lizard 10.0 NN                                       released   = January 04th, 2024     Test on Wasp-2
(1) Liam McGuire, USA
    https://github.com/liamt19/Lizard

02. Starzix 3.0 NN                                       executable = January 03rd, 2024     Test on Wasp-2
    Ricardo Pinto, POR
    https://github.com/zzzzz151/Starzix

01. Akimbo 0.8.0 NN                                      executable = January 02nd, 2024     Test on Wasp-2
    Jamie Whiting, GBR
    https://github.com/jw1912/akimbo
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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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test-13

Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Wasp 6.50 NN            16.5	-	23.5		41.25%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Wasp 6.63 NN dev        17.5	-	21.5		44.87%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Akimbo 0.8.0 NN         14.5	-	24.5		37.18%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Starzix 3.0 NN          15.5	-	23.5		39.74%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Clarity 4.1.0 NN        20.5	-	18.5		52.56%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Caissa 1.16 NN           6.5	-	32.5		16.67%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Counter 5.5 NN          27.5	-	11.5		70.51%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Pawn 3.0 NN             16.0	-	22.0		42.11%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Texel 1.11 NN           19.5	-	19.5		50.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - RubiChess 20240112 NN    8.5	-	29.5		22.37%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Avalanche 2.1.0 NN      19.5	-	19.5		50.00%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Lizard 10.1 NN          17.5	-	21.5		44.87%		
Renegade 1.0.0 NN - Minic 3.40 NN           15.5	-	22.5		40.79%

215.0	-	290.0		42.57%
Current results!
Test need a bit longer ...

Final results are tomorrow in the late afternoon or in the evening available.
End of holiday, since many years I made really most of time a chess holiday over christmas - middle of January.

:-)

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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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13. Renegade 1.0.0 NN
14. Arasan 24.1 NN ... still running on Wasp-1

v13

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              Name                 Games     Win     Draw     Lose       Pts         S-B         %    wins-55m  lost-55m  AV-wins  AV-draws  AV-all

01. RubiChess 20240112 NN       :   650  :  326+  :  320=  :    4-  :   486.0  : 147991.50  :  74.77%    40         0       79       79       79
02. Caissa 1.16 NN              :   650  :  318+  :  329=  :    3-  :   482.5  : 146604.75  :  74.23%    20         0       85       81       83
03. Minic 3.40 NN               :   650  :  137+  :  435=  :   78-  :   354.5  : 108492.25  :  54.54%     5         9       95       92       93
04. Pawn 3.0 NN                 :   650  :  134+  :  427=  :   89-  :   347.5  : 105731.25  :  53.46%     5         7       82       87       86
05. Akimbo 0.8.0 NN             :   650  :  142+  :  411=  :   97-  :   347.5  : 104682.25  :  53.46%     5        11       92       93       91
06. Starzix 3.0 NN              :   650  :  121+  :  432=  :   97-  :   337.0  : 101668.25  :  51.85%     3        11       92       92       90
07. Wasp 6.63 NN dev            :   650  :  111+  :  421=  :  118-  :   321.5  :  98018.75  :  49.46%    15         2       79       81       83
08. Texel 1.11 NN               :   650  :  116+  :  407=  :  127-  :   319.5  :  96659.75  :  49.15%    18         1       75       90       87
09. Lizard 10.1 NN              :   650  :  110+  :  418=  :  122-  :   319.0  :  96886.00  :  49.08%     7        11       87       96       92
10. Wasp 6.50 NN                :   650  :  113+  :  409=  :  128-  :   317.5  :  95146.25  :  48.85%    27         0       77       81       83
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11. Renegade 1.0.0 NN           :   650  :   73+  :  399=  :  178-  :   272.5  :  83162.50  :  41.92%     2        19       91      101       95
12. Clarity 4.1.0 NN            :   650  :   49+  :  409=  :  192-  :   253.5  :  77938.25  :  39.00%     0        13       96       85       86
13. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN          :   650  :   40+  :  321=  :  289-  :   200.5  :  61988.00  :  30.85%     0        45       92       86       83
14. Counter 5.5 NN              :   650  :   33+  :  316=  :  301-  :   191.0  :  59566.75  :  29.38%     3        21       83      101       95


White Wins =  1.201 ( 26.40% )
Draws      =  2.727 ( 59.93% )
Black Wins =    622 ( 13.67% )
Average    = 174.35 ( 87,17 moves )

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   # Player                   :      Elo  Games  Score%  won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
   1 RubiChess 20240112 NN    :  3497.21    650    74.8  326   320     4   486.0   49.2  18.27  3294.64  14.85   13.0
   2 Caissa 1.16 NN           :  3492.44    650    74.2  318   329     3   482.5   50.6  17.68  3295.01  14.89   13.0
   3 Minic 3.40 NN            :  3340.35    650    54.5  137   435    78   354.5   66.9  14.54  3306.71  15.13   13.0
   4 Akimbo 0.8.0 NN          :  3332.68    650    53.5  142   411    97   347.5   63.2  14.11  3307.29  15.17   13.0
   4 Pawn 3.0 NN              :  3332.68    650    53.5  134   427    89   347.5   65.7  14.62  3307.29  15.13   13.0
   6 Starzix 3.0 NN           :  3321.23    650    51.8  121   432    97   337.0   66.5  14.19  3308.18  15.16   13.0
   7 Wasp 6.63 NN dev         :  3304.35    650    49.5  111   421   118   321.5   64.8  14.21  3309.47  15.16   13.0
   8 Texel 1.11 NN            :  3302.18    650    49.2  116   407   127   319.5   62.6  14.25  3309.64  15.16   13.0
   9 Lizard 10.1 NN           :  3301.63    650    49.1  110   418   122   319.0   64.3  13.86  3309.68  15.19   13.0
  10 Wasp 6.50 NN             :  3300.00    650    48.8  113   409   128   317.5   62.9  14.00  3309.81  15.18   13.0
  11 Renegade 1.0.0 NN        :  3250.69    650    41.9   73   399   178   272.5   61.4  14.35  3313.60  15.15   13.0
  12 Clarity 4.1.0 NN         :  3229.43    650    39.0   49   409   192   253.5   62.9  15.64  3315.24  15.05   13.0
  13 Avalanche 2.1.0 NN       :  3167.23    650    30.8   40   321   289   200.5   49.4  15.55  3320.02  15.06   13.0
  14 Counter 5.5 NN           :  3155.42    650    29.4   33   316   301   191.0   48.6  16.01  3320.93  15.02   13.0

White advantage = 51.09 +/- 3.17
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 74.41 % +/- 0.87
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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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14. Arasan 24.1 NN
15. Seer 2.8.0 NN ... still running on Wasp-1
16. Peacekeeper 2.20 NN ... still running on Wasp-2 (Wasp-2 with 6+3 and 4 cores need a while).

OK, I go back in the old year 2023 (but only last releases if nothing is to do).

Seer is from December 31st, 2023
Peacekeeper from December 24th, 2023

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              Name                 Games     Win     Draw     Lose       Pts         S-B         %    wins-55m  lost-55m  AV-wins  AV-draws  AV-al

01. RubiChess 20240112 NN       :   700  :  343+  :  353=  :    4-  :   519.5  : 171039.25  :  74.21%    42         0       79       79       79     
02. Caissa 1.16 NN              :   700  :  327+  :  369=  :    4-  :   511.5  : 167789.50  :  73.07%    20         0       85       80       82
03. Arasan 24.1 NN              :   700  :  201+  :  443=  :   56-  :   422.5  : 139147.00  :  60.36%    24         3       84       83       83
04. Minic 3.40 NN               :   700  :  141+  :  467=  :   92-  :   374.5  : 123572.50  :  53.50%     5        15       95       92       91
05. Pawn 3.0 NN                 :   700  :  137+  :  465=  :   98-  :   369.5  : 121424.25  :  52.79%     5         7       82       88       87
06. Akimbo 0.8.0 NN             :   700  :  148+  :  438=  :  114-  :   367.0  : 119294.50  :  52.43%     5        13       93       92       91
07. Starzix 3.0 NN              :   700  :  123+  :  467=  :  110-  :   356.5  : 116097.75  :  50.93%     3        13       92       91       89
08. Wasp 6.63 NN dev            :   700  :  115+  :  452=  :  133-  :   341.0  : 112196.00  :  48.71%    15         3       81       80       82
09. Texel 1.11 NN               :   700  :  119+  :  442=  :  139-  :   340.0  : 111162.75  :  48.57%    19         1       75       90       88
10. Lizard 10.1 NN              :   700  :  112+  :  450=  :  138-  :   337.0  : 110429.75  :  48.14%     7        13       87       96       92
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11. Wasp 6.50 NN                :   700  :  113+  :  447=  :  140-  :   336.5  : 108947.00  :  48.07%    27         0       77       81       83
12. Renegade 1.0.0 NN           :   700  :   74+  :  428=  :  198-  :   288.0  :  94812.50  :  41.14%     2        20       91      100       94
13. Clarity 4.1.0 NN            :   700  :   51+  :  440=  :  209-  :   271.0  :  90018.25  :  38.71%     0        14       95       85       85
14. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN          :   700  :   42+  :  339=  :  319-  :   211.5  :  70424.25  :  30.21%     0        53       91       86       82
15. Counter 5.5 NN              :   700  :   34+  :  340=  :  326-  :   204.0  :  68648.75  :  29.14%     3        22       84      102       95


White Wins =  1.369 ( 26.08% )
Draws      =  3.170 ( 60.38% )
Black Wins =    711 ( 13.54% )
Average    = 173.30 ( 86,65 moves )

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   # Player                   :      Elo  Games  Score%  won  draw  lost  Points  Draw%  Error   OppAvg   OppE   OppD
   1 RubiChess 20240112 NN    :  3498.21    700    74.2  343   353     4   519.5   50.4  17.36  3301.18  14.43   14.0
   2 Caissa 1.16 NN           :  3488.24    700    73.1  327   369     4   511.5   52.7  16.70  3301.89  14.47   14.0
   3 Arasan 24.1 NN           :  3388.03    700    60.4  201   443    56   422.5   63.3  14.54  3309.05  14.63   14.0
   4 Minic 3.40 NN            :  3338.52    700    53.5  141   467    92   374.5   66.7  13.98  3312.59  14.67   14.0
   5 Pawn 3.0 NN              :  3333.44    700    52.8  137   465    98   369.5   66.4  14.04  3312.95  14.66   14.0
   6 Akimbo 0.8.0 NN          :  3330.90    700    52.4  148   438   114   367.0   62.6  13.85  3313.13  14.68   14.0
   7 Starzix 3.0 NN           :  3320.26    700    50.9  123   467   110   356.5   66.7  13.21  3313.89  14.72   14.0
   8 Wasp 6.63 NN dev         :  3304.56    700    48.7  115   452   133   341.0   64.6  13.76  3315.01  14.68   14.0
   9 Texel 1.11 NN            :  3303.55    700    48.6  119   442   139   340.0   63.1  14.15  3315.09  14.66   14.0
  10 Lizard 10.1 NN           :  3300.51    700    48.1  112   450   138   337.0   64.3  13.49  3315.30  14.70   14.0
  11 Wasp 6.50 NN             :  3300.00    700    48.1  113   447   140   336.5   63.9  13.44  3315.34  14.71   14.0
  12 Renegade 1.0.0 NN        :  3250.39    700    41.1   74   428   198   288.0   61.1  14.47  3318.88  14.63   14.0
  13 Clarity 4.1.0 NN         :  3232.61    700    38.7   51   440   209   271.0   62.9  14.71  3320.15  14.62   14.0
  14 Avalanche 2.1.0 NN       :  3167.15    700    30.2   42   339   319   211.5   48.4  15.60  3324.83  14.55   14.0
  15 Counter 5.5 NN           :  3158.39    700    29.1   34   340   326   204.0   48.6  16.04  3325.46  14.52   14.0

White advantage = 50.06 +/- 2.84
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 74.52 % +/- 0.81
Best
Frank

PS: I am looking more for wins / lost games and move-averages. Elo never was important for me since engines are stronger as 2850. Looking more on playing style of engines. Reason should be clear, searching for engines I can use for tournaments with longer time-controls. In this case move-average should be good. Move-average is around the same (longer or shorter time-controls) and with longer time-controls the short wins and lost games are logical lesser. Move-averages and quatity of short wins for RubiChess is ... what should I say to such things ... gigantic strong!!
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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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Hi there,

shortly a problem report for all the engines I have inside now.

1. Avalanche 2.1.0 NN ... 4 times during the games the Shredder GUI does nothing and hangs. I restart the games!

2. Arasan 24.1 NN ... plays without "rc file". Of course I added the name of the NN file in the UCI options. The hash tables are loaded and the NN file works. But I am not sure about the final result. On the other hand, tactical strong engines are much better with longer time controls. So everything can be normal. I don't know, I don't often test with blitz rules.

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[ENGINE]
Name=Arasan 24.1 NN
Author=Jon Dart
Filename=C:\Chess\Shredder_12\Engines\Arasan\Arasan_241-NN.exe
[OPTIONS]
SyzygyTbPath=c:\Chess\_syzygybases-5
SyzygyProbeDepth=1
BookPath=<empty>
NNUE file=arasan-d9-SFv4-20231228.nnue
Move overhead=100
All others engines runs normaly and I can not see any problems.

Best
Frank
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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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I think what I do here is for the most not very interesting.
Nobody asked for a live-mode ...

Seer 2.8.0 NN is running.
With more time Seer is stronger and stronger (if I compare to many other top engines) and for me quit clear that place 1 isn't possible in the group of engines I have. Furthermore, it seems that Seer got much more aggressiveness in the last versions. The new version is just great, looking many games from my 66+6 tournament. Possible that Seer is on the same level as Dragon 3.3 NN with longer time-controls. Absolutely possible!!

What I like to say is ...
I not await place 1 with blitz-rules.

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Seer 2.8.0 NN - Wasp 6.50 NN            5.0	-	1.0		83.33%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Wasp 6.63 NN dev        5.0	-	1.0		83.33%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Akimbo 0.8.0 NN         3.5	-	1.5		70.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Starzix 3.0 NN          4.5	-	1.5		75.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Clarity 4.1.0 NN        4.5	-	1.5		75.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Caissa 1.16 NN          1.5	-	4.5		25.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Counter 5.5 NN          4.0	-	1.0		80.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Pawn 3.0 NN             3.0	-	2.0		60.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Texel 1.11 NN           4.5	-	0.5		90.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - RubiChess 20240112 NN   3.0	-	3.0		50.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Avalanche 2.1.0 NN      4.5	-	0.5		90.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Lizard 10.1 NN          3.5	-	1.5		70.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Minic 3.40 NN           3.0	-	2.0		60.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Renegade 1.0.0 NN       4.0	-	1.0		80.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Arasan 24.1 NN          3.0	-	2.0		60.00%
		
56.5	-	24.5		69,75%
But 72% can be possible!

If anyone like to see a live-mode for the results I can do it.
On the other hand, blitz isn't very interesting for the most I think.

Best
Frank
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Re: New engine releases 2024 ... 6+3

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Seer 2.8.0 NN - Wasp 6.50 NN            11.0	-	3.0		78.57%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Wasp 6.63 NN dev        10.0	-	4.0		71.43%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Akimbo 0.8.0 NN          9.5	-	4.5		67.86%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Starzix 3.0 NN          10.5	-	3.5		75.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Clarity 4.1.0 NN        10.0	-	4.0		71.43%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Caissa 1.16 NN           5.5	-	8.5		39.29%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Counter 5.5 NN           9.5	-	3.5		73.08%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Pawn 3.0 NN              8.0	-	5.0		61.54%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Texel 1.11 NN           11.5	-	1.5		88.46%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - RubiChess 20240112 NN    6.5	-	6.5		50.00%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Avalanche 2.1.0 NN      12.5	-	0.5		96.15%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Lizard 10.1 NN           9.0	-	4.0		69.23%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Minic 3.40 NN            8.0	-	5.0		61.54%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Renegade 1.0.0 NN       10.5	-	2.5		80.77%		
Seer 2.8.0 NN - Arasan 24.1 NN           7.5	-	5.5		57.69%
		
139.5	-	61.5		69.40%
Seer is fighting for 72%
After all I think possible or 71%?

:-)

Looking the complete evening Seer games.
Lizard and Pawn have often interesting ideas in the late mid-game to play vs. the strong Seer.
Its interesting to follow ... but enough is enough.
01:00 German time ...

In the late afternoon I have the final result.

Best
Frank