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Re: If you are interested....

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Despite in my 100 games match Clover 3.3-Caissa 1.6 (on Arena 3.5.1 GUI-see above in this thread) wasn't a single crash, I started a new test with
3.3.1 version of Clover chess engine. Versus PowerFritz 18 AVX2 (Ginkgo Vienna x64). The situation after only 14 games is:

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+5 -0 =9

+131 Elo points for Clover 3.3.1-avx2 in 14 games !

Let's see the rest of games.
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Clover.3.3.1-avx2
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result:

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+17 -6 =77

+42 Elo points in 100 games for Clover.3.3.1-avx2

PowerFritz 18 avx2 has 3476 Elo points (Stefan Pohl rating list).

Clover 3.3 avx2 has 3505 Elo points (Stefan Pohl rating list).

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The situation in my match after only 14 games:

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+2 -0 =12

+49 Elo points for Berserk 11 in only 14 games.

Probably Berserk 11 will become number 3 worldwide (original engines). I don't think it can dethrone KomodoDragon from the 2nd place. Not yet.

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A sample from my match:

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Berserk-11-x64-avx2-pext
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-NNs: defaults
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result in my match:

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+6 -0 =94

+21 Elo points in 100 games for Berserk-11-x64-avx2-pext

Berserk 11 is the new no.3 (original engines).

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For comparison (the result of the match Ethereal 14 - Berserk 10):

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The latest development version of Stockfish tries not to take too much of a beating from the champion on my PC............ :wink:

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BlackCore-5.1-bmi2-win
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases (only for BlackCore-5.1-bmi2-win)
-NNs: defaults
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result:

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+28 -12 =60

+56 Elo points in 100 games for BlackCore-5.1-bmi2-win

Frozenight 6.0.0 avx2 has 3341 points (Stefan Pohl rating list).

BlackCore 5.1 avx2 has 3357 Elo points (Stefan Pohl rating list).
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Hard..............

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+0 -3 =28

+32 Elo points for SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 after 31 games

.........hard !
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Stockfish_23021813_x64_bmi2
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-NNs: defaults (Stockfish_23021813_x64_bmi2 uses the new net - nn-1337b1adec5b.nnue; SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 uses an old SF
net: nn-3c0054ea9860.nnue)
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The finasl result:

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+2 -10 =88

-28 Elo points in 100 games

A sample from this match:



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Re: If you are interested....

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Sylwy wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:07 pm Stockfish_23021813_x64_bmi2
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Match conditions:
...
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
How do you manage to make Stockfish use a book?
Obviously it was not the GUI that just played out first 8 moves before engines take over.
And obviously one engine IS using a book (or learning file or whatever), the other not:

Clone's moves of the sample match:
1. e4 {(e2-e4) +0.23/60 0}
2. d4 {(d2-d4) +0.60/43 0}
3. d5 {(d4-d5) +1.05/40 0}
4. Nf3 {(Ng1-f3) +1.04/40 0}
5. h4 {(h2-h4) +0.62/32 0}
6. Nc3 {(Nb1-c3) +0.84/24 0}
7. Qd3 {(Qd1-d3) +0.95/23 0}
8. Bg5 {(Bc1-g5) +1.47/28 0}
9. Be3 {(Bg5-e3 d7-d6 ... ) +1.59/25 4}

=> 0 seconds for moves 1-8.
...
Stockfish's moves of the sample match:
1. .. Nc6
2. .. e5
3. .. Nce7 {(Nc6-e7 Ng1-f3 ...) -0.78/35 11}
4. .. Ng6 {(Ne7-g6 h2-h4 ...) -0.78/31 5}
5. .. h5 {(h7-h5 Nb1-c3 ...) -0.73/27 6}
6. .. Bb4 {(Bf8-b4 Qd1-d3 ...) -0.73/29 14}
7. .. a6 {(a7-a6 Bc1-g5 ...) -0.79/31 13}
8. .. f6 {(f7-f6 Bg5-e3 ...) -0.81/29 3}
9. .. Nh6 {(Ng8-h6 Be3xh6 ...) -0.84/29 5}

=> 52 seconds for moves 1-8.

Sorry, I'm not interested.
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Re: If you are interested....

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RubiChess wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:06 pm
Sylwy wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:07 pm Stockfish_23021813_x64_bmi2
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Match conditions:
...
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
1.-How do you manage to make Stockfish use a book?
2.-Obviously it was not the GUI that just played out first 8 moves before engines take over.
3.-And obviously one engine IS using a book (or learning file or whatever), the other not:

.................
Sorry, I'm not interested.
1.- Simple:

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2.- Yes, yes. Until he encountered a move for which there is no answer in the GUI book ... or the engine thinks it is better to enter the calculation.

3.-Yes, of course. SpectralByLOBO also uses an experience file. It is well known. If SF does not have it, it means that the developers are not interested. Exactly as when using the endgame databases - some engines can access them, others not.

Sorry, I'm not interested....if anyone is interested or not! :wink: