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Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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TOP ENGINES UNFASHIONABLE OPENINGS

AMD Ryzen 5950x
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
6 piece tablebases
Ponder off
UnfashionableLines.cgb book
12 minutes with 8 second increments.
10 cycles 140 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
Each of the following 10 opening lines will be played in each of the 10 cycles:

1. b4
1. Nc3
1. e4 d5 2. exd5
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
1. d4 f5
1. f3
1. e4 e5 2. f4
1. e4 Nf6
1. f4 e5 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
Participants

Stockfish 16.1 64-bit
Torch v2 64-bit
Dragon by Komodo 3.3 64-bit
Berserk 13 64-bit
PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit
Caissa 1.18 64-bit
RubiChess 20241112 64-bit
Obsidian 12.0 64-bit


Web based link for live viewing (courtesy of Jay - Berserk author).
https://ccrl.live/16069

Alternatively, if you install TLCV (Tom's Live Chess Viewer) on your computer, you can watch the games live move by move. You'll also be able to chat to others following the tournament in the chatroom there.
http://kirill-kryukov.com/chess/discuss ... p?id=42959
Host - GrahamCCRL.dyndns.org Port - 16069
Linux users can use Livius:
https://github.com/kmar/livius

There is also a Livius windows version.
It has live pv boards as a nice addition.
http://www.crabaware.com/livius/
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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TOP ENGINES UNFASHIONABLE OPENINGS

AMD Ryzen 5950x
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
6 piece tablebases
Ponder off
UnfashionableLines.cgb book
12 minutes with 8 second increments.
10 cycles 140 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
Each of the following 10 opening lines will be played in each of the 10 cycles:

1. b4
1. Nc3
1. e4 d5 2. exd5
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
1. d4 f5
1. f3
1. e4 e5 2. f4
1. e4 Nf6
1. f4 e5 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
Standings after Round 14

7.5 - Dragon 3.3 by Komodo 64-bit
7.0 - Berserk 13 64-bit
7.0 - Caissa 1.18 64-bit
7.0 - Obsidian 12.0 64-bit
7.0 - RubiChess 20240112 64-bit
7.0 - Stockfish 16.1 64-bit
7.0 - Torch v2 64-bit
6.5 - PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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The first cycle was with 1. Nc3

The cycle now playing is 1. f3
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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TOP ENGINES UNFASHIONABLE OPENINGS

AMD Ryzen 5950x
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
6 piece tablebases
Ponder off
UnfashionableLines.cgb book
12 minutes with 8 second increments.
10 cycles 140 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
Each of the following 10 opening lines will be played in each of the 10 cycles:

1. b4
1. Nc3
1. e4 d5 2. exd5
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
1. d4 f5
1. f3
1. e4 e5 2. f4
1. e4 Nf6
1. f4 e5 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
Standings after Round 28

17.5 - Stockfish 16.1 64-bit
15.0 - Dragon 3.3 by Komodo 64-bit
15.0 - Berserk 13 64-bit
13.5 - RubiChess 20240112 64-bit
13.5 - Torch v2 64-bit
13.0 - Caissa 1.18 64-bit
12.5 - Obsidian 12.0 64-bit
12.0 - PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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Next up is 1. e4 d5 2. exd5
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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TOP ENGINES UNFASHIONABLE OPENINGS

AMD Ryzen 5950x
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
6 piece tablebases
Ponder off
UnfashionableLines.cgb book
12 minutes with 8 second increments.
10 cycles 140 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
Each of the following 10 opening lines will be played in each of the 10 cycles:

1. b4
1. Nc3
1. e4 d5 2. exd5
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
1. d4 f5
1. f3
1. e4 e5 2. f4
1. e4 Nf6
1. f4 e5 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
Standings after Round 42

27.5 - Stockfish 16.1 64-bit
24.0 - Dragon 3.3 by Komodo 64-bit
22.5 - Berserk 13 64-bit
22.0 - Torch v2 64-bit
19.5 - Obsidian 12.0 64-bit
18.5 - RubiChess 20240112 64-bit
17.5 - Caissa 1.18 64-bit
16.5 - PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit
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The next cycle will have 1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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TOP ENGINES UNFASHIONABLE OPENINGS

AMD Ryzen 5950x
ChessGUI
256mb hash each where possible
6 piece tablebases
Ponder off
UnfashionableLines.cgb book
12 minutes with 8 second increments.
10 cycles 140 rounds
All engines 1CPU (64-bit where available)
Each of the following 10 opening lines will be played in each of the 10 cycles:

1. b4
1. Nc3
1. e4 d5 2. exd5
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
1. d4 f5
1. f3
1. e4 e5 2. f4
1. e4 Nf6
1. f4 e5 *
1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6
Standings after Round 56

35.0 - Stockfish 16.1 64-bit
32.0 - Dragon 3.3 by Komodo 64-bit
30.5 - Torch v2 64-bit
30.0 - Berserk 13 64-bit
26.0 - Obsidian 12.0 64-bit
24.5 - RubiChess 20240112 64-bit
23.0 - Caissa 1.18 64-bit
23.0 - PlentyChess 1.0.0 64-bit
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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The next cycle of games will start with 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3
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Re: Top Engines Unfashionable Openings

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It seems that these are not the only book moves
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. c3

I download the game and I see many book moves after 3.c3 and black got a winning position out of book after 21.Kh1