Fritz vs. Fruit : interesting results

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Jouni
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Fritz vs. Fruit : interesting results

Post by Jouni »

I expected Fruit to gain more than Fritz with longer thinking, but it seems to be the opposite. Book = 10 moves.

60/5:

1 Fruit 05/11/03 111½1½0½½0101½½½000½1½½00½1½0½½011½1101½ 21.0/40
2 Fritz 10 000½0½1½½1010½½½111½0½½11½0½1½½100½0010½ 19.0/40

60/15:

1 Fritz 10 1011½½1½½0½½1½1½½10111111½1½0½0½011½½01½ 25.0/40
2 Fruit 05/11/03 0100½½0½½1½½0½0½½01000000½0½1½1½100½½10½ 15.0/40

Note also in CCRL:

40/4: 10 - 22 but
40/40: 14 - 6 !

Of course more games needed to prove anything.

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Re: Fritz vs. Fruit : interesting results

Post by Jouni »

Addition: I also played with 60/2 level:

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1   Fruit 05/11/03   0½001½½½11½½01111½0½100110101½0½1½0½1011½10½11½100  27.5/50
2   Fritz 10        1½110½½½00½½10000½1½011001010½1½0½1½0100½01½00½011   22.5/50

I am surprised, that Fruit plays better in fast level, because Fritz is much better tactically.

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Re: Fritz vs. Fruit : interesting results

Post by Uri Blass »

There is no big difference between different time controls

from the ccrl 40/40

http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040.l ... t_all.html Fritz 10

Fritz 10 2881 +18 −18 53.7% −25.6 37.2% 1078
53.4%
Fruit 051103 2877 +56 −56 51.1% −8.4 44.7% 94

CCRL 40/4


Fritz 10 2883 +22 −22 53.1% −23.2 29.5% 747
Fruit 05/11/03 2875 +22 −22 53.0% −20.5 35.9% 691

CEGT 40/20

55 Fritz 10 2827 9 9 3680 53.9 % 2800 34.3 %
57 Fruit 05/11/03 2824 17 17 980 50.2 % 2823 40.8 %


CEGT 40/4

41 Fruit 051103 2831 27 27 360 52.2 % 2816 41.7 %
42 Fritz 10 2830 15 15 1439 46.6 % 2853 28.5 %

Fritz seems to be weaker only at 120/40 but when you do not use that slow time control you probably cannot expect fritz to perform worse at longer time control.

http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/40_120_ ... liste.html
19 Fritz 10 2805 19 19 904 45.8 % 2835 33.0 %