Robbolito 0.09 New Edition VS Rybka 3

[Dr.Ex]

A second match Robbolito 0.09 X64 - Deep Rybka 3 x64 (4 threads) with the same conditions ended 13-27 (+4 =18 -18)

The claims of the Threadstarter are obviously hyperbole.
Dann's original smooth scaling approach didn't work for Stockfish (see CEGT private test), so why should it work for Robbo?

[Darkmoon]

Good luck gentlemen-this most interesting affair has been given over to more capable hands then my own. I leave it at that.

I wish you all the best in the coming new year!

[kingliveson]

There seems to have been improvement. I ran the same test on a stronger hardware and .085g3 score 683 and 684.

I think you'd get better scores, perhaps beyond 705 if you ran the test with your hardware, would like to see it though!

What other Robbolito versions out there are best? e4, g3, d2 or...? I'd like to test atleast 3 or 4 other Robbolito for comparison purposes.

STS 1 - 8 Short 01.03.10

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                              1.0  2.0  3.0  4.0  5.0  6.0  7.0  8.0  Total
									
RobboLito 009 x64	          95	91	91	91	91	90	84	80	713
RobboLito 0085e4 x64	       96	93	93	87	88	87	84	73	701
RobboLito 0085d2 x64	       96	93	93	87	87	87	84	73	700
RobboLito 0085g3 x64	       94	93	93	87	87	87	84	73	698

1.0: Undermining
2.0: Open Files and Diagonals
3.0: Knight Outposts
4.0: Square Vacancy
5.0: Bishop vs Knight
6.0: Re-Capturing
7.0: Offer of Simplification
8.0: Advancement of f/g/h pawns

Conditions:

-Arena 2.01 GUI
-10 seconds per position
-128 MB hash
-All engines use 1 CPU
-AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.6 GHz

See Analyses.log file for more details.

The test suites are available at http://sites.google.com/site/strategictestsuite/

[swami]

Thanks, Franklin. This is definitely an indication that the last version is clearly improved.

It's impressive that Robbolito versions seems to be accurately evaluated and nearly correctly rank-ordered I believe.

[swami]

http://ippolit.wikispaces.com/space/changes

Cygwin builds this after slight modification.

Will Iggorit have a Multi-PV support besides MP?

I think Multi-PV is not hard to implement. MP is definitely hard in comparison.
Funny thing though is Multi-PV analysis mode is actually equally if not more important feature than an MP.

[Graham Banks]

It's not the Rybka that we all know, but it is Rybka.

Huh?

It is not Rybka, but it's Rybka?

Some weeks ago in a thread here Jury Osipov claimed Ippolit was a clone of not Rybka 3 but of a later version.

Of course he can't be right if Vasik Rajlich told the truth.

Larry Kaufmann posted the following in the Rybka forum:

Well, to be precise a new program that was clearly made by decompiling Rybka 3 and putting it back together with changes to the evaluation function published its source code. So not the entire R3 code is public, but most of it other than the exact evaluation function is. The "author" does not publicly admit that his program was taken from R3, but Vas has said so and I can tell you that the similarities are so overwhelming that any claim to the contrary is a joke.

Now let's see Larry get ripped to pieces here also.

[Graham Banks]

It's not the Rybka that we all know, but it is Rybka. It is not Rybka 3, despite what Vas said.
You've either been sucked in or you're part of the "rotten army".
I hope it's not the latter.
And by the way, what authors? Who are "they"?

Cheers,
Graham.

1.Yes-it's an extraterrestrial version of Rybka 5 !
2.The authors are anonimous otherwise they will be beheaded in a central plaza somewhere near Australia island - being anti commercial aliens !
3.Graham Banks & co try to save the commercial computer chess ! Money from chess ! This is the real problem ! The rest is theory !
"They " are anti they !

Regards,


PS: only theory ! I'm retired !

I recall that your last post here was on October 30th and contained the following:

To moderation : PLEASE DELETE FOR ETERNITY MY ACCOUNT ON CCC . THE REST OF MY LIFE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM.EVEN THE COMPUTER CHESS BECOMES FOR ME A GREAT EYESORE. REST FOR ME THE HUMAN CHESS, THE HISTORY, THE MUSIC & A LOT OF OTHERS PLEASURES .

Silvian

[mariaclara]

hahahhaa

Nice Unc Graham..

( he was jz jkin )

It's not the Rybka that we all know, but it is Rybka. It is not Rybka 3, despite what Vas said.
You've either been sucked in or you're part of the "rotten army".
I hope it's not the latter.
And by the way, what authors? Who are "they"?

Cheers,
Graham.

1.Yes-it's an extraterrestrial version of Rybka 5 !
2.The authors are anonimous otherwise they will be beheaded in a central plaza somewhere near Australia island - being anti commercial aliens !
3.Graham Banks & co try to save the commercial computer chess ! Money from chess ! This is the real problem ! The rest is theory !
"They " are anti they !

Regards,


PS: only theory ! I'm retired !

I recall that your last post here was on October 30th and contained the following:

To moderation : PLEASE DELETE FOR ETERNITY MY ACCOUNT ON CCC . THE REST OF MY LIFE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS FORUM.EVEN THE COMPUTER CHESS BECOMES FOR ME A GREAT EYESORE. REST FOR ME THE HUMAN CHESS, THE HISTORY, THE MUSIC & A LOT OF OTHERS PLEASURES .

Silvian

[Graham Banks]

hahahhaa

Nice Unc Graham..

( he was jz jkin )

He also posted this on February 6th 2009:

Why mods ?
Peter Skinner has the right to insult me on this forum("you pirate chess engine"," you look absolutely stupid") and you deleted my reply ?
Why ?
If Ithis is your policy please delete my account too -otherwise I'll post everyday protest !

Silvian

He must kid a lot.

[S.Taylor]

A second match Robbolito 0.09 X64 - Deep Rybka 3 x64 (4 threads) with the same conditions ended 13-27 (+4 =18 -18)

The claims of the Threadstarter are obviously hyperbole.
Dann's original smooth scaling approach didn't work for Stockfish (see CEGT private test), so why should it work for Robbo?

Sorry, does this mean 27 to Rybka, 13 to Robbolito? Or the opposite? or what?