Hi there,
for that reason (new tournament with new conditions) I will stopp the tourney after round 16 = 640 games per engine.
Now round 11 of 16 is still running.
Best
Frank
FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Hello everyone,
in the main time Obsidian 8 and Alexandria 5.1.0 are going into the tournament.
Too late for Altair 6.0.0, because I will start the next tournament on 24th December 2023.
So the last 2.800 games are still running.
This will take about 11 days and the tournament will be over with round 16.
I will use Altair 6.0.0 in the next tournament, will see!
FCP Tourney-2024 was a very strong tournament.
I am often not happy with the long move averages of different engines, but all in all ...
Fantastic to see such a strength ... TOP-41 = 3353 Elo today!
I had the most fun with Uralochka games, with Berserk games in the late midgame and with Black Core 6.0 NN. I often think that Black Core 6.0 NN plays the most "human-like" chess. But maybe I am wrong. There are a lot of nice engines in there. OK, some of the engines produced various bugs, but again ... the time control I use is a bit old school and bugs can be fixed.
I have a few more tournaments on my schedule.
The next one will be a "move average" tournament with 16 rounds and a much higher time control. Some of my settings from the still running tournament are not good. Hash with 768Mb, time control with 40 moves in 20 minutes and it seems the book should be smaller. I will try 6-man for the next tournament.
You can find all information about this and the next tournament in my download file.
https://www.amateurschach.de/download/_ ... y-2024.zip
Best wishes
Frank
PS: For some time now, the move-average tournament has been running on another PC with 5-man syzygy bases and a very fast time control. I tried different settings. I expect a move average of exactly 86.7 moves (can be a bit lower with 6-man syzygy and the very long time control). The current tournament has a move average of 95.9 moves (after round 12). The next "move-average" tournament will have an Elo average of 3280, a much lower draw rate and much more quickly won games with the new FEOBOS book I have created (PGN to this book can be found in my download file). Three programmers asked for a broadcast, I am thinking about it.
In 11 or 12 days I can give the final results.

in the main time Obsidian 8 and Alexandria 5.1.0 are going into the tournament.
Too late for Altair 6.0.0, because I will start the next tournament on 24th December 2023.
So the last 2.800 games are still running.
This will take about 11 days and the tournament will be over with round 16.
I will use Altair 6.0.0 in the next tournament, will see!
FCP Tourney-2024 was a very strong tournament.
I am often not happy with the long move averages of different engines, but all in all ...
Fantastic to see such a strength ... TOP-41 = 3353 Elo today!
I had the most fun with Uralochka games, with Berserk games in the late midgame and with Black Core 6.0 NN. I often think that Black Core 6.0 NN plays the most "human-like" chess. But maybe I am wrong. There are a lot of nice engines in there. OK, some of the engines produced various bugs, but again ... the time control I use is a bit old school and bugs can be fixed.
I have a few more tournaments on my schedule.
The next one will be a "move average" tournament with 16 rounds and a much higher time control. Some of my settings from the still running tournament are not good. Hash with 768Mb, time control with 40 moves in 20 minutes and it seems the book should be smaller. I will try 6-man for the next tournament.
You can find all information about this and the next tournament in my download file.
https://www.amateurschach.de/download/_ ... y-2024.zip
Best wishes
Frank
PS: For some time now, the move-average tournament has been running on another PC with 5-man syzygy bases and a very fast time control. I tried different settings. I expect a move average of exactly 86.7 moves (can be a bit lower with 6-man syzygy and the very long time control). The current tournament has a move average of 95.9 moves (after round 12). The next "move-average" tournament will have an Elo average of 3280, a much lower draw rate and much more quickly won games with the new FEOBOS book I have created (PGN to this book can be found in my download file). Three programmers asked for a broadcast, I am thinking about it.
In 11 or 12 days I can give the final results.

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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Hi there,
OK, let us top the "move-average".
Have a look on the end of the ratinglist I stopped last year in summer times ... OK some months more running as private available. Sure that I can top the move-average with other settings, an other book ... and different of TOP-75 engines with around 5 moves lesser with my next tourney to my KI-Rating-List or with 10 moves to my still-running tourney. I will see that with longer time-controls.
Best
Frank
OK, let us top the "move-average".
Have a look on the end of the ratinglist I stopped last year in summer times ... OK some months more running as private available. Sure that I can top the move-average with other settings, an other book ... and different of TOP-75 engines with around 5 moves lesser with my next tourney to my KI-Rating-List or with 10 moves to my still-running tourney. I will see that with longer time-controls.
Best
Frank
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June 29th, 2022 (17:30)
After 113.700 games
KI-Ratings, v6.30 ... FINAL ... switched to private available!
Shredder 13 = 3125.00 Elo
... after round 30 out of 30 from "run-6"
# Player : Elo Games Score% won draw lost Points Draw% Error OppAvg OppE OppD
01. Stockfish 311221 NN dev : 3496.60 2250 80.5 1373 875 2 1810.5 38.9 12.05 3218.93 10.04 75.0
--. Stockfish 020622 NN dev : 3491.69 1200 79.5 708 492 0 954.0 41.0 14.98 3230.12 9.64 40.0
--. Stockfish 15 NN : 3480.63 1380 78.0 773 606 1 1076.0 43.9 14.25 3234.54 9.29 46.0
02. Lc0 0.28.2 611062 GPU : 3480.47 1200 80.5 733 466 1 966.0 38.8 15.69 3201.57 9.53 40.0 ... RTX 3070-Ti
03. Dragon 3 NN (Komodo) : 3477.84 1950 77.8 1097 842 11 1518.0 43.2 12.03 3230.77 10.17 65.0
--. Stockfish 151121 NN dev : 3471.99 1200 81.9 767 431 2 982.5 35.9 17.23 3178.40 10.35 40.0
--. ShashChess 21.1 NN : 3469.39 1380 76.9 745 633 2 1061.5 45.9 14.03 3234.79 9.29 46.0
--. Dragon 2.6 NN (Komodo) : 3468.18 2310 77.5 1288 1005 17 1790.5 43.5 11.35 3224.44 10.20 77.0
--. ShashChess 20.2 NN : 3466.31 1200 78.1 676 523 1 937.5 43.6 15.44 3218.02 9.12 40.0
--. Dragon 2.5.1 NN (Komodo) : 3456.38 1200 80.6 741 452 7 967.0 37.7 16.87 3178.79 10.35 40.0
04. Berserk 9 NN dev3 : 3398.20 1200 70.1 515 653 32 841.5 54.4 13.66 3232.45 9.68 40.0
05. Koivisto 8.9 NN : 3396.32 1200 69.9 508 662 30 839.0 55.2 14.07 3232.50 9.67 40.0
06. Fire 8 MC.3 NN : 3390.23 3330 68.9 1373 1845 112 2295.5 55.4 8.19 3231.10 11.01 111.0
07. SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN : 3380.81 1200 68.2 481 674 45 818.0 56.2 13.27 3232.89 9.69 40.0 ... test with contempt 12/4
--. Koivisto 8.6 NN : 3380.18 1500 67.4 592 839 69 1011.5 55.9 11.57 3237.43 9.40 50.0
--. SlowChess Blitz 2.83 NN : 3377.64 1950 67.2 753 1116 81 1311.0 57.2 10.65 3236.29 9.86 65.0 ... test with contempt 12/4
--. Berserk 8.5.1 NN : 3373.03 2160 68.1 868 1208 84 1472.0 55.9 9.89 3223.25 9.97 72.0
--. Koivisto 7.13 NN : 3371.54 1200 68.4 502 638 60 821.0 53.2 13.47 3220.39 9.17 40.0
08. Revenge 2.0 NN : 3363.36 2850 65.9 1054 1649 147 1878.5 57.9 8.74 3232.65 10.62 95.0
--. Berserk 9 NN dev : 3363.08 1200 67.5 481 657 62 809.5 54.8 13.17 3220.60 9.18 40.0
--. SlowChess Blitz 2.8 NN : 3361.87 1710 68.1 691 946 73 1164.0 55.3 11.41 3210.76 10.64 57.0 ... test with contempt 12/4
09. rofChade 3.0 NN : 3361.08 1200 65.9 441 699 60 790.5 58.3 12.99 3233.38 9.69 40.0
--. Andscacs 0.1 NNSf dev : 3358.03 1200 76.3 646 538 16 915.0 44.8 14.52 3135.45 9.69 40.0
--. rofChade 2.321 NN dev : 3355.64 1500 64.6 547 844 109 969.0 56.3 11.78 3237.92 9.40 50.0
--. Koivisto 7.5 NN : 3351.83 1200 70.5 545 601 54 845.5 50.1 13.44 3181.41 10.44 40.0
10. RubiChess 20220223 NN : 3349.36 1890 62.9 619 1138 133 1188.0 60.2 9.83 3245.90 10.14 63.0
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11. Ethereal 13.25 NN : 3346.38 1710 66.3 666 937 107 1134.5 54.8 11.00 3211.03 10.65 57.0
--. rofChade 2.317 NN dev : 3346.14 1200 65.5 451 670 79 786.0 55.8 13.04 3221.03 9.18 40.0
12. Seer 2.5.0 NN : 3342.25 2040 63.7 727 1144 169 1299.0 56.1 9.65 3231.35 10.25 68.0
--. Koivisto 7.9 NN : 3340.65 1230 66.5 475 685 70 817.5 55.7 13.54 3206.26 9.54 41.0
--. Berserk 7 NN : 3339.30 1200 69.1 508 642 50 829.0 53.5 13.38 3181.72 10.44 40.0
--. RubiChess 2021 NN : 3324.06 1740 63.7 615 988 137 1109.0 56.8 10.30 3213.36 9.97 58.0
--. RubiChess 2.2 NN : 3304.63 1200 65.1 441 681 78 781.5 56.8 13.09 3182.59 10.45 40.0
13. Arasan 23.3 NN : 3300.35 1890 56.9 487 1176 227 1075.0 62.2 9.97 3246.68 10.14 63.0
--. rofChade 2.313 NN dev : 3292.40 1230 60.8 410 675 145 747.5 54.9 12.39 3207.43 9.57 41.0
14. Minic 3.22 NN : 3288.77 1200 57.0 313 741 146 683.5 61.8 11.94 3235.19 9.72 40.0
--. Revenge 1.0 NN : 3286.02 1200 62.9 404 702 94 755.0 58.5 12.80 3183.05 10.46 40.0
--. Seer 2.4.0 NN : 3285.18 2730 60.3 873 1546 311 1646.0 56.6 8.06 3202.30 10.64 91.0
15. Igel 3.1.0 NN : 3282.91 1200 56.2 273 803 124 674.5 66.9 11.91 3235.34 9.72 40.0
--. Igel 3.0.10 NN : 3275.52 3390 58.4 951 2057 382 1979.5 60.7 7.40 3208.11 11.03 113.0
--. Seer 2.4.0 NN dev : 3274.99 1200 61.6 397 684 119 739.0 57.0 12.55 3183.33 10.46 40.0
--. Caissa 0.5 NNSf : 3268.74 1380 53.9 295 899 186 744.5 65.1 11.15 3239.15 9.35 46.0
--. Fire 8.2 : 3264.39 1200 65.9 449 683 68 790.5 56.9 12.95 3137.79 9.73 40.0
--. Ethereal 13.07 : 3264.37 2490 56.6 682 1453 355 1408.5 58.4 8.74 3212.18 10.60 83.0
16. Halogen 10.23 NN dev : 3256.54 2250 56.8 622 1312 316 1278.0 58.3 9.08 3202.56 10.44 75.0
--. rofChade 2.310 NN dev : 3256.34 1200 59.3 370 683 147 711.5 56.9 12.70 3183.79 10.46 40.0
17. Nemorino 6.09 NN dev : 3254.59 3780 55.0 971 2214 595 2078.0 58.6 7.15 3215.29 11.22 126.0
--. Lc0 0.28.2 752187 CPU : 3253.82 2820 53.0 594 1803 423 1495.5 63.9 7.78 3231.17 10.57 94.0
--. Arasan 23.2 NN : 3250.40 2280 57.7 644 1344 292 1316.0 58.9 9.45 3189.62 10.49 76.0
--. Rodent 1.0 NNSf : 3249.86 1740 54.7 396 1111 233 951.5 63.9 10.35 3214.64 9.97 58.0
--. Coiled 1.1 NNSf : 3249.00 1200 53.5 267 750 183 642.0 62.5 12.05 3223.46 9.21 40.0
18. Clover 3.1 NN : 3248.51 1890 50.3 375 1153 362 951.5 61.0 9.73 3247.50 10.15 63.0
--. Halogen 10.23.11 NN dev : 3247.01 1380 51.2 268 876 236 706.0 63.5 11.32 3239.62 9.35 46.0 ... test without syzygy
19. Booot 7.0 NN dev : 3238.39 2790 52.5 611 1705 474 1463.5 61.1 7.96 3219.63 10.76 93.0
20. Tucano 10.00 NN : 3238.10 2790 52.4 586 1753 451 1462.5 62.8 7.91 3219.64 10.77 93.0
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21. Wasp 5.54 NN dev : 3234.92 1200 50.0 235 730 235 600.0 60.8 12.27 3236.54 9.71 40.0
--. Wasp 5.53 NN dev : 3233.65 1500 51.6 320 908 272 774.0 60.5 10.62 3223.29 9.50 50.0
--. Minic 3.18 NN : 3232.38 2400 52.9 544 1450 406 1269.0 60.4 8.79 3210.53 10.41 80.0
22. Rebel 15x2 NN : 3229.79 1200 49.3 222 740 238 592.0 61.7 11.85 3236.66 9.72 40.0
--. Arasan 23.0.1 NN : 3228.74 1200 55.8 309 722 169 670.0 60.2 11.81 3184.48 10.48 40.0
--. Rebel 15 NN : 3214.74 1530 48.9 290 917 323 748.5 59.9 10.37 3225.74 9.49 51.0
--. Lc0 0.28.0 744204 CPU : 3212.99 1200 53.8 311 670 219 646.0 55.8 12.30 3184.88 10.47 40.0
23. Uralochka 3.36c NN : 3212.81 1200 47.1 216 699 285 565.5 58.3 11.77 3237.09 9.72 40.0
--. Wasp 5.50 NN : 3205.54 1440 45.4 231 845 364 653.5 58.7 10.94 3244.57 9.34 48.0
--. Wasp 5.30 NN dev : 3205.48 1200 58.5 356 692 152 702.0 57.7 12.15 3139.27 9.75 40.0
--. Booot 6.5 : 3201.04 1710 48.7 343 981 386 833.5 57.4 10.19 3213.58 10.66 57.0
24. Fritz 18 NN (Ginkgo) : 3196.06 1890 43.7 288 1076 526 826.0 56.9 9.56 3248.33 10.15 63.0
--. Wasp 5.26 NN dev : 3191.03 1200 46.0 216 673 311 552.5 56.1 11.59 3224.91 9.22 40.0
--. Toga IV 1.1 NNRe : 3186.29 1320 42.7 188 751 381 563.5 56.9 12.02 3246.19 9.27 44.0
25. Zahak 10.0 NN : 3177.89 1890 42.2 278 1040 572 798.0 55.0 9.48 3242.72 10.22 63.0
26. Xiphos 0.6 : 3175.06 3780 45.2 623 2170 987 1708.0 57.4 6.85 3215.92 11.22 126.0
27. Velvet 3.3.0 NN : 3172.73 1890 40.8 261 1020 609 771.0 54.0 9.76 3248.70 10.15 63.0
--. Wasp 5.20 NN : 3170.97 1230 45.5 208 703 319 559.5 57.2 11.89 3210.39 9.58 41.0
--. rofChade 2.3 : 3169.42 1200 53.8 302 687 211 645.5 57.3 12.11 3140.17 9.75 40.0
--. Minic 3.17 NN : 3166.43 1710 44.4 269 981 460 759.5 57.4 10.25 3214.19 10.66 57.0
--. Clover 3.0 NN : 3166.05 1740 47.4 347 954 439 824.0 54.8 9.89 3189.37 10.15 58.0
--. Rebel 14.2 NN : 3161.17 1290 50.9 298 718 274 657.0 55.7 11.54 3155.09 9.84 43.0
--. Wasp 5.00 NN : 3160.70 1200 47.1 202 727 271 565.5 60.6 11.98 3186.19 10.48 40.0
28. Weiss 2.0 : 3158.29 3780 43.1 588 2085 1107 1630.5 55.2 7.06 3216.05 11.22 126.0
29. Combusken 2.0.0 : 3144.52 2790 40.9 386 1509 895 1140.5 54.1 8.29 3220.64 10.76 93.0
30. Defenchess 2.3 dev : 3141.36 3780 41.1 562 1982 1236 1553.0 52.4 6.52 3216.19 11.22 126.0
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--. Gogobello 3.0 NNSf : 3141.03 1230 41.7 141 744 345 513.0 60.5 12.06 3211.12 9.58 41.0
31. Schooner 2.2 XB : 3139.27 3780 40.8 517 2053 1210 1543.5 54.3 6.90 3216.20 11.22 126.0
--. Zahak 8.6 NN dev : 3135.30 1200 43.9 205 643 352 526.5 53.6 12.57 3186.82 10.46 40.0
--. Fritz 18 (Ginkgo) : 3131.34 2760 42.2 424 1484 852 1166.0 53.8 8.41 3196.82 11.00 92.0
32. Laser 1.7 : 3131.00 3780 39.8 522 1968 1290 1506.0 52.1 7.05 3216.27 11.22 126.0
--. Velvet 3.2.0 NN : 3130.67 1740 42.9 270 954 516 747.0 54.8 9.92 3189.98 10.15 58.0
--. Zahak 9.0 NN : 3129.41 2880 40.7 406 1534 940 1173.0 53.3 7.70 3207.36 10.66 96.0
--. Rebel 14.1 NN : 3126.73 1200 37.9 146 618 436 455.0 51.5 12.08 3226.51 9.21 40.0
33. Bit-Genie 9.19 dev : 3126.15 2190 36.1 260 1063 867 791.5 48.5 9.36 3240.38 10.23 73.0
34. Shredder 13 : 3125.00 3780 39.1 517 1924 1339 1479.0 50.9 7.31 3216.32 11.22 126.0
--. Clover 2.4 : 3123.37 1710 39.1 194 950 566 669.0 55.6 10.41 3214.94 10.66 57.0
35. Stash 33.0 : 3121.67 1200 35.6 111 632 457 427.0 52.7 12.17 3239.37 9.71 40.0
36. Hiarcs 15.1 : 3118.58 1200 35.2 101 643 456 422.5 53.6 13.00 3239.44 9.69 40.0
--. Hiarcs 15.0 : 3116.63 2400 38.6 306 1241 853 926.5 51.7 8.92 3211.98 10.41 80.0
37. Marvin 5.2.0 NN : 3114.71 3780 37.9 436 1994 1350 1433.0 52.8 7.03 3216.40 11.22 126.0
38. Fizbo 2.0 : 3111.22 3780 37.5 462 1911 1407 1417.5 50.6 7.26 3216.43 11.22 126.0
39. DanaSah 9.0 NN : 3108.71 3330 35.1 307 1723 1300 1168.5 51.7 7.52 3233.64 11.02 111.0
40. Chiron 5 : 3107.26 3780 37.0 476 1848 1456 1400.0 48.9 6.80 3216.46 11.22 126.0
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41. LG Evolution 3.15.4 NN : 3102.81 1920 39.6 208 1105 607 760.5 57.6 9.84 3188.49 9.96 64.0
42. Andscacs 0.95 : 3102.55 1500 33.2 128 739 633 497.5 49.3 11.51 3242.98 9.40 50.0
--. Andscacs 0.95.123 dev : 3100.75 2250 35.8 250 1109 891 804.5 49.3 9.12 3220.25 10.70 75.0
43. Dark Toga 1.1 NN : 3093.95 1710 35.6 191 836 683 609.0 48.9 10.99 3215.46 10.65 57.0
--. Stash 32.6 dev : 3092.60 1380 42.0 205 750 425 580.0 54.3 11.13 3156.59 9.89 46.0
--. Stash 32.0 : 3086.95 1230 35.1 116 631 483 431.5 51.3 12.74 3212.44 9.56 41.0
--. Halogen 10 NN : 3075.54 1710 33.5 153 839 718 572.5 49.1 10.60 3215.78 10.66 57.0
--. Rodent 1.1 NNRe : 3073.13 1410 32.0 124 654 632 451.0 46.4 11.91 3223.60 9.33 47.0
44. Expositor 2WN29 NN : 3071.85 1200 29.8 63 588 549 357.0 49.0 13.34 3240.61 9.68 40.0
45. Winter 0.9 : 3070.72 1890 32.5 189 852 849 615.0 45.1 10.27 3219.43 10.66 63.0
46. Black Marlin 5.0 NN : 3069.90 1500 29.5 80 724 696 442.0 48.3 12.08 3243.64 9.39 50.0
47. GullChess 3.0 Sy : 3065.78 1890 32.0 168 873 849 604.5 46.2 10.89 3219.50 10.65 63.0
48. Orion 0.8 NN : 3060.84 1710 31.8 104 880 726 544.0 51.5 11.30 3216.04 10.64 57.0
--. Wasp 4.50 : 3060.54 1230 32.0 92 603 535 393.5 49.0 12.92 3213.09 9.56 41.0
--. Stash 31.16 dev : 3050.38 1200 33.4 96 610 494 401.0 50.8 12.62 3188.94 10.46 40.0
--. Caissa 0.4 NNSf : 3039.23 1200 36.8 109 666 425 442.0 55.5 12.52 3143.42 9.74 40.0
49. Drofa 3.3.0 : 3026.77 1230 34.8 131 594 505 428.0 48.3 12.52 3148.58 9.74 41.0
50. Mantissa 3.3.0 NN : 3024.69 1200 35.0 119 603 478 420.5 50.3 12.56 3143.79 9.74 40.0
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51. Nirvanachess 2.5 : 3022.47 1200 30.2 76 573 551 362.5 47.8 12.87 3189.64 10.45 40.0
--. Black Marlin 4.0 NN : 3017.71 1740 29.7 122 788 830 516.0 45.3 11.51 3191.92 10.12 58.0
--. Combusken 1.4.0 : 3014.24 1200 29.3 91 521 588 351.5 43.4 13.51 3189.85 10.44 40.0
52. Demolito 2021-07-09 : 3011.60 1200 29.0 93 510 597 348.0 42.5 13.46 3189.91 10.44 40.0
--. Expositor 2WQ23 NN : 3011.60 1200 33.5 119 565 516 401.5 47.1 13.04 3144.11 9.73 40.0
53. Vajolet2 2.8 : 3011.60 1200 33.5 114 575 511 401.5 47.9 12.56 3144.11 9.74 40.0
54. Fritz 16 (Rybka) : 3009.16 1200 33.2 115 566 519 398.0 47.2 12.62 3144.17 9.74 40.0
55. Counter 4.0 : 3003.54 1200 32.5 109 562 529 390.0 46.8 13.17 3144.31 9.72 40.0
56. Mr Bob 1.1.0 : 2983.46 1200 30.2 75 574 551 362.0 47.8 13.35 3144.82 9.72 40.0
57. Texel 1.08a18 : 2977.22 1200 29.5 85 537 578 353.5 44.8 13.61 3144.97 9.71 40.0
White advantage : 67.83 +/- 0.66
Draw rate (equal opponents) : 72.13% +/- 0.20
Summary by Norm Pollock:
Games : 113.700 ( no result = 0, FEN tags = 0 )
Players : 128 ( clusters = 1 )
Date Range : 2021.11.08 - 2022.06.29
White Wins : 35.215 ( 30.97% )
Draws : 61.343 ( 53.95% )
Black Wins : 17.142 ( 15.08% )
White Pct : 57.95%
Black Pct : 42.05%
Range : 37-597
Average : 180.73 = 90,37 moves ( without resign-mode )
StdDev : 76.38
ECO:
A: 21.537
B: 25.556
C: 24.936
D: 19.823
E: 21.848
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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Please note (all game with resign = off):
Move-average FCP-Rating-List = 88,39
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2020 = 87,30
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2021 = 87,03
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2022 = 88,98
Move-average KI-Ratings 2023 = 90,37
During KI-Ratings 2023 are running, different engines start to produced games with a high number of moves.
With the final result that the move-average goes higher and higher.
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2024 = 95,90 (after round-13) ... that's more as bad because it's selfmate!
Produced by around 10-15 engines!
Test-Tourney:
FCP-Tourney-2024-MA with the time-control "3+1" produced = 86,42 (looks like normal).
Without the 10-15 engines!
To stop FCP-Tourney-2024 is for me logicial, made no sense that more rounds / games are produced!
I am not happy with the tournament, more cramp as fun for to many matches!
So, the tourney will be end with round 16 in around 10 days.
Best
Frank
Move-average FCP-Rating-List = 88,39
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2020 = 87,30
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2021 = 87,03
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2022 = 88,98
Move-average KI-Ratings 2023 = 90,37
During KI-Ratings 2023 are running, different engines start to produced games with a high number of moves.
With the final result that the move-average goes higher and higher.
Move-average FCP-Tourney-2024 = 95,90 (after round-13) ... that's more as bad because it's selfmate!
Produced by around 10-15 engines!
Test-Tourney:
FCP-Tourney-2024-MA with the time-control "3+1" produced = 86,42 (looks like normal).
Without the 10-15 engines!
To stop FCP-Tourney-2024 is for me logicial, made no sense that more rounds / games are produced!
I am not happy with the tournament, more cramp as fun for to many matches!
So, the tourney will be end with round 16 in around 10 days.
Best
Frank
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After round 13 ...
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Name Games Win Draw Lose Pts S-B % mate <50 average win avg. >180 moves
01. Stockfish 16 NN : 520 : 195+ : 325= : 0- : 357.5 : 90276.75 : 68.75% : 6 win, 0 lose : 100 moves : 82 moves : 38 games (06.)
02. Dragon 3.3 NN (Komodo) : 520 : 186+ : 334= : 0- : 353.0 : 88327.75 : 67.88% : 5 win, 0 lose : 91 moves : 82 moves : 22 games
03. Berserk 12 NN : 520 : 169+ : 345= : 6- : 341.5 : 85688.00 : 65.67% : 2 win, 0 lose : 107 moves : 86 moves : 42 games (03.)
04. RubiChess 20230918 NN : 520 : 136+ : 380= : 4- : 326.0 : 81552.25 : 62.69% : 2 win, 0 lose : 92 moves : 86 moves : 17 games
05. CSTal 2.00 NN : 520 : 132+ : 379= : 9- : 321.5 : 80387.50 : 61.83% : 5 win, 0 lose : 87 moves : 85 moves : 10 games
06. Caissa 1.14.1 NN : 520 : 130+ : 375= : 15- : 317.5 : 79185.00 : 61.06% : 0 win, 0 lose : 93 moves : 89 moves : 28 games
07. Koivisto 9.2 NN dev : 520 : 123+ : 376= : 21- : 311.0 : 77238.25 : 59.81% : 1 win, 0 lose : 106 moves : 92 moves : 34 games
08. Igel 3.5.0 NN : 520 : 112+ : 393= : 15- : 308.5 : 77317.50 : 59.33% : 5 win, 0 lose : 90 moves : 87 moves : 26 games
09. Uralochka 3.40a NN : 520 : 123+ : 370= : 27- : 308.0 : 76545.25 : 59.23% : 11 win, 0 lose : 95 moves : 84 moves : 25 games
10. Revenge 3.0 NN : 520 : 112+ : 391= : 17- : 307.5 : 76846.25 : 59.13% : 4 win, 0 lose : 98 moves : 83 moves : 30 games
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11. rofChade 3.1 NN : 520 : 117+ : 381= : 22- : 307.5 : 76598.75 : 59.13% : 5 win, 1 lose : 103 moves : 90 moves : 37 games (08.)
12. Obsidian 8.0 NN : 520 : 111+ : 382= : 27- : 302.0 : 75234.25 : 58.08% : 2 win, 1 lose : 104 moves : 91 moves : 32 games
13. Rebel EAS NN : 520 : 111+ : 381= : 28- : 301.5 : 75383.25 : 57.98% : 1 win, 0 lose : 88 moves : 87 moves : 21 games
14. Viridithas 11.0.0 NN : 520 : 108+ : 376= : 36- : 296.0 : 73357.00 : 56.92% : 1 win, 1 lose : 102 moves : 93 moves : 40 games (04.)
15. Seer 2.7.0 NN : 520 : 99+ : 390= : 31- : 294.0 : 73242.75 : 56.54% : 2 win, 0 lose : 92 moves : 91 moves : 23 games
16. Clover 6.0 NN : 520 : 97+ : 388= : 35- : 291.0 : 72134.25 : 55.96% : 2 win, 0 lose : 99 moves : 87 moves : 36 games
17. Alexandria 5.1.0 NN : 520 : 93+ : 393= : 34- : 289.5 : 72260.75 : 55.67% : 1 win, 0 lose : 99 moves : 91 moves : 36 games
18. Arasan 24.0 NN : 520 : 85+ : 405= : 30- : 287.5 : 71733.25 : 55.29% : 4 win, 0 lose : 91 moves : 81 moves : 21 games
19. SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN : 520 : 85+ : 391= : 44- : 280.5 : 70022.50 : 53.94% : 4 win, 0 lose : 100 moves : 82 moves : 31 games
20. Minic 3.39 NN : 520 : 75+ : 382= : 63- : 266.0 : 66502.25 : 51.15% : 3 win, 0 lose : 95 moves : 95 moves : 16 games
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21. Fire 9.2 NN : 520 : 72+ : 387= : 61- : 265.5 : 66062.00 : 51.06% : 3 win, 0 lose : 97 moves : 82 moves : 19 games
22. Fritz 19 NN (Gingko) : 520 : 77+ : 377= : 66- : 265.5 : 65697.00 : 51.06% : 1 win, 2 lose : 93 moves : 86 moves : 13 games
23. Booot 7.2 NN : 520 : 58+ : 391= : 71- : 253.5 : 62804.75 : 48.75% : 1 win, 1 lose : 106 moves : 84 moves : 50 games (01.)
24. Carp 3.0.1 NN : 520 : 55+ : 394= : 71- : 252.0 : 62429.25 : 48.46% : 1 win, 0 lose : 98 moves : 89 moves : 30 games
25. Black Marlin 8.0 NN : 520 : 50+ : 369= : 101- : 234.5 : 58149.00 : 45.10% : 0 win, 8 lose : 101 moves : 90 moves : 39 games (05.)
26. Superultra 1.0 NN : 520 : 45+ : 376= : 99- : 233.0 : 58162.50 : 44.81% : 1 win, 4 lose : 105 moves : 92 moves : 44 games (02.)
27. Wasp 6.61 NN dev : 520 : 49+ : 367= : 104- : 232.5 : 57350.75 : 44.71% : 2 win, 0 lose : 90 moves : 86 moves : 24 games
28. Stormphrax 3.0.0 NN : 520 : 48+ : 366= : 106- : 231.0 : 57000.75 : 44.42% : 0 win, 5 lose : 104 moves : 99 moves : 37 games (08.)
29. Velvet 5.3.0 NN : 520 : 37+ : 366= : 117- : 220.0 : 54691.75 : 42.31% : 3 win, 0 lose : 92 moves : 77 moves : 21 games
30. Akimbo 0.7.0 NN : 520 : 43+ : 334= : 143- : 210.0 : 51708.75 : 40.38% : 0 win, 10 lose : 95 moves : 106 moves : 34 games
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31. Texel 1.10 NN : 520 : 35+ : 342= : 143- : 206.0 : 51326.50 : 39.62% : 1 win, 0 lose : 99 moves : 79 moves : 27 games
32. BlackCore 6.0 NN : 520 : 38+ : 322= : 160- : 199.0 : 48956.75 : 38.27% : 0 win, 2 lose : 97 moves : 89 moves : 28 games
33. Devre 4.0 NN : 520 : 29+ : 337= : 154- : 197.5 : 48738.75 : 37.98% : 0 win, 3 lose : 93 moves : 87 moves : 23 games
34. Halogen 11.4 NN : 520 : 21+ : 348= : 151- : 195.0 : 48416.50 : 37.50% : 1 win, 8 lose : 92 moves : 102 moves : 22 games
35. Nemorino 6.11 NN dev : 520 : 23+ : 339= : 158- : 192.5 : 48234.50 : 37.02% : 0 win, 5 lose : 91 moves : 89 moves : 26 games
36. Pawn 2.0 NN : 520 : 24+ : 336= : 160- : 192.0 : 48125.50 : 36.92% : 1 win, 3 lose : 92 moves : 83 moves : 18 games
37. Smallbrain 7.0 NN : 520 : 24+ : 332= : 164- : 190.0 : 47262.25 : 36.54% : 0 win, 12 lose : 93 moves : 104 moves : 22 games
38. Marvin 6.2.0 NN : 520 : 22+ : 333= : 165- : 188.5 : 46705.25 : 36.25% : 0 win, 2 lose : 90 moves : 84 moves : 21 games
39. Chess.cpp 4.0 NN : 520 : 27+ : 310= : 183- : 182.0 : 44695.75 : 35.00% : 2 win, 5 lose : 84 moves : 90 moves : 12 games
40. Willow 3.1 NN : 520 : 20+ : 315= : 185- : 177.5 : 43716.50 : 34.13% : 1 win, 10 lose : 99 moves : 86 moves : 38 games (06.)
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41. Weiss 230309 dev : 520 : 33+ : 284= : 203- : 175.0 : 43218.75 : 33.65% : 1 win, 2 lose : 102 moves : 82 moves : 31 games
White Wins = 2.455 ( 23.03% )
Draws = 7.431 ( 69.71% )
Black Wins = 774 ( 7.26% )
Average = 191.94 ( 95,9 moves )
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Here the produced ratings after round 13:
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FCP-Tourney-2024 after round 13
10.660 games
# Player : Elo Games Score% won draw lost Points Draw% Error OppAvg OppE OppD
1 Stockfish 16 NN : 3495.00 520 68.8 195 325 0 357.5 62.5 16.68 3347.19 14.52 40.0
2 Dragon 3.3 NN (Komodo) : 3488.00 520 67.9 186 334 0 353.0 64.2 15.59 3347.36 14.55 40.0
3 Berserk 12 NN : 3469.89 520 65.7 169 345 6 341.5 66.3 15.68 3347.82 14.55 40.0
4 RubiChess 20230918 NN : 3446.30 520 62.7 136 380 4 326.0 73.1 15.43 3348.41 14.55 40.0
5 CSTal 2.00 NN : 3439.26 520 61.8 132 379 9 321.5 72.9 15.49 3348.58 14.55 40.0
6 Caissa 1.14.1 NN : 3433.49 520 61.1 130 375 15 317.5 72.1 14.96 3348.73 14.56 40.0
7 Koivisto 9.2 NN dev : 3424.03 520 59.8 123 376 21 311.0 72.3 14.28 3348.96 14.58 40.0
8 Igel 3.5.0 NN : 3420.13 520 59.3 112 393 15 308.5 75.6 14.68 3349.06 14.57 40.0
9 Uralochka 3.40a NN : 3419.52 520 59.2 123 370 27 308.0 71.2 14.73 3349.08 14.57 40.0
10 Revenge 3.0 NN : 3418.76 520 59.1 112 391 17 307.5 75.2 14.29 3349.09 14.58 40.0
11 rofChade 3.1 NN : 3418.65 520 59.1 117 381 22 307.5 73.3 14.56 3349.10 14.57 40.0
12 Obsidian 8.0 NN : 3410.77 520 58.1 111 382 27 302.0 73.5 14.45 3349.29 14.58 40.0
13 Rebel EAS NN : 3410.14 520 58.0 111 381 28 301.5 73.3 14.38 3349.31 14.58 40.0
14 Viridithas 11.0.0 NN : 3402.09 520 56.9 108 376 36 296.0 72.3 14.16 3349.51 14.58 40.0
15 Seer 2.7.0 NN : 3399.31 520 56.5 99 390 31 294.0 75.0 13.95 3349.58 14.59 40.0
16 Clover 6.0 NN : 3395.02 520 56.0 97 388 35 291.0 74.6 13.57 3349.69 14.60 40.0
17 Alexandria 5.1.0 NN : 3392.77 520 55.7 93 393 34 289.5 75.6 13.91 3349.74 14.59 40.0
18 Arasan 24.0 NN : 3389.91 520 55.3 85 405 30 287.5 77.9 13.74 3349.82 14.60 40.0
19 SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN : 3380.00 520 53.9 85 391 44 280.5 75.2 13.93 3350.06 14.59 40.0
20 Minic 3.39 NN : 3359.29 520 51.2 75 382 63 266.0 73.5 13.64 3350.58 14.60 40.0
21 Fire 9.2 NN : 3358.58 520 51.1 72 387 61 265.5 74.4 13.83 3350.60 14.59 40.0
22 Fritz 19 NN (Gingko) : 3358.57 520 51.1 77 377 66 265.5 72.5 13.52 3350.60 14.60 40.0
23 Booot 7.2 NN : 3341.64 520 48.8 58 391 71 253.5 75.2 13.33 3351.02 14.61 40.0
24 Carp 3.0.1 NN : 3339.48 520 48.5 55 394 71 252.0 75.8 13.89 3351.08 14.59 40.0
25 Black Marlin 8.0 NN : 3314.66 520 45.1 50 369 101 234.5 71.0 13.35 3351.70 14.60 40.0
26 Superultra 1.0 NN : 3312.46 520 44.8 45 376 99 233.0 72.3 13.80 3351.75 14.59 40.0
27 Wasp 6.61 NN dev : 3311.80 520 44.7 49 367 104 232.5 70.6 13.77 3351.77 14.59 40.0
28 Stormphrax 3.0.0 NN : 3309.64 520 44.4 48 366 106 231.0 70.4 13.88 3351.82 14.59 40.0
29 Velvet 5.3.0 NN : 3293.84 520 42.3 37 366 117 220.0 70.4 14.34 3352.22 14.58 40.0
30 Akimbo 0.7.0 NN : 3279.18 520 40.4 43 334 143 210.0 64.2 14.55 3352.58 14.58 40.0
31 Texel 1.10 NN : 3273.31 520 39.6 35 342 143 206.0 65.8 14.64 3352.73 14.57 40.0
32 BlackCore 6.0 NN : 3262.93 520 38.3 38 322 160 199.0 61.9 14.72 3352.99 14.57 40.0
33 Devre 4.0 NN : 3260.74 520 38.0 29 337 154 197.5 64.8 15.11 3353.05 14.56 40.0
34 Halogen 11.4 NN : 3257.03 520 37.5 21 348 151 195.0 66.9 14.92 3353.14 14.57 40.0
35 Nemorino 6.11 NN dev : 3253.24 520 37.0 23 339 158 192.5 65.2 14.96 3353.23 14.56 40.0
36 Pawn 2.0 NN : 3252.50 520 36.9 24 336 160 192.0 64.6 14.81 3353.25 14.57 40.0
37 Smallbrain 7.0 NN : 3249.56 520 36.5 24 332 164 190.0 63.8 15.30 3353.33 14.56 40.0
38 Marvin 6.2.0 NN : 3247.10 520 36.3 22 333 165 188.5 64.0 15.35 3353.39 14.55 40.0
39 Chess.cpp 4.0 NN : 3237.27 520 35.0 27 310 183 182.0 59.6 15.67 3353.63 14.55 40.0
40 Willow 3.1 NN : 3230.33 520 34.1 20 315 185 177.5 60.6 15.06 3353.81 14.56 40.0
41 Weiss 230309 dev : 3226.38 520 33.7 33 284 203 175.0 54.6 16.64 3353.90 14.52 40.0
White advantage = 61.06 +/- 1.80
Draw rate (equal opponents) = 88.84 % +/- 0.62
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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Have a look at the Uralochka results ...
A lot of wins, but also a lot of lost games for the high Elo.
Uralochka is a nightmare for weaker engines!
Stronger engines can play against her aggressiveness and not get angry.
Wins the most short games, twice as many as the other best.
Can be better seen in the stats produced by Stefan Pohl!
The lost games (75%) are _not_ due to the aggressiveness in the early mid-games.
I did some analyses yesterday!
It's sensational !!!!
100% fun what Uralochka is doing.
Best engine for opening analyses so far, no doubt about it.
This is most important for human chess players, correspondence players around the world.
Have a look what the HCE engine Weiss does?
Look at the number of wins and compare it with the other NN engines at the bottom of the end of the table.
Look a the number of short lost games ...
Another sensational result from Weiss!
Unfortunately the move average from draws is too high.
A very nice engine with a lot of potential!
A great job by the Norwegian programmer, it seems that he is working a lot in detail.
Sure, enough potential for a "Future-TOP-5-Engine".
Of the engines "newer to me" I like Pawn and Chess.cpp the most.
I am very interested to see what the engines can do in my next mp tournament!
The words on Sunday from Gutweiler, Germany.

A lot of wins, but also a lot of lost games for the high Elo.
Uralochka is a nightmare for weaker engines!
Stronger engines can play against her aggressiveness and not get angry.
Wins the most short games, twice as many as the other best.
Can be better seen in the stats produced by Stefan Pohl!
The lost games (75%) are _not_ due to the aggressiveness in the early mid-games.
I did some analyses yesterday!
It's sensational !!!!
100% fun what Uralochka is doing.
Best engine for opening analyses so far, no doubt about it.
This is most important for human chess players, correspondence players around the world.
Have a look what the HCE engine Weiss does?
Look at the number of wins and compare it with the other NN engines at the bottom of the end of the table.
Look a the number of short lost games ...
Another sensational result from Weiss!
Unfortunately the move average from draws is too high.
A very nice engine with a lot of potential!
A great job by the Norwegian programmer, it seems that he is working a lot in detail.
Sure, enough potential for a "Future-TOP-5-Engine".
Of the engines "newer to me" I like Pawn and Chess.cpp the most.
I am very interested to see what the engines can do in my next mp tournament!
The words on Sunday from Gutweiler, Germany.

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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
I updated my EAS-Tool to V5.61 (5.6 to 5.61 fixes the problems, happening, when enginenames contain "(" or ")"). Whats new? Some more points for higher sacs, but the main new feature is, that the EAS-Tool additionally shows 6 single statistic categories (of interest) and for each category the Top5 engines. This new output can be found between the 2 EAS-Ratinglists, the EAS-Tool writes in the statistics_EAS_ratinglist.txt output-file:
The Output looks like this, using your tourney pgn file (after around only 90 seconds of calculation):
EAS single-statistics (6 categories, each with Top5 engines):
A: Most high-value sacrifices (3+ pawnunits): [1]:07.89% BlackCore 6.0 NN [2]:06.31% Rebel EAS NN [3]:06.12% Wasp 6.61 NN dev [4]:05.45% Carp 3.0.1 NN [5]:04.71% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN
B: Most sacrifices overall : [1]:30.23% Arasan 24.0 NN [2]:29.17% Pawn 2.0 NN [3]:28.57% Wasp 6.61 NN dev [4]:27.93% Obsidian 8.0 NN [5]:25.93% Viridithas 11.0.0 NN
C: Very short wins (55 moves or less) : [1]:11.38% Uralochka 3.40a NN [2]:10.59% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN [3]:10.47% Arasan 24.0 NN [4]:09.72% Fire 9.2 NN [5]:09.09% CSTal 2.00 NN
D: Most short wins overall : [1]:40.00% Texel 1.10 NN [2]:39.39% Weiss 230309 dev [3]:36.84% Velvet 5.3.0 NN [4]:34.72% Fire 9.2 NN [5]:29.41% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN
E: Average length of all won games : [1]:076 Velvet 5.3.0 NN [2]:078 Texel 1.10 NN [3]:081 Arasan 24.0 NN [4]:081 Dragon 3.3 NN (Komodo) [5]:081 Fire 9.2 NN
F: Smallest number of bad draws : [1]:09.88% Arasan 24.0 NN [2]:12.50% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN [3]:13.39% Velvet 5.3.0 NN [4]:13.75% Uralochka 3.40a NN [5]:13.85% Stockfish 16 NN
You can download the new V5.61 of my EAS-Tool right here:
https://www.sp-cc.de/files/engines_aggr ... cs_tool.7z
IMO, these additional informations can be very useful, to understand the playing styles of engines better. And the "weak-spots", if there are some.
The Output looks like this, using your tourney pgn file (after around only 90 seconds of calculation):
EAS single-statistics (6 categories, each with Top5 engines):
A: Most high-value sacrifices (3+ pawnunits): [1]:07.89% BlackCore 6.0 NN [2]:06.31% Rebel EAS NN [3]:06.12% Wasp 6.61 NN dev [4]:05.45% Carp 3.0.1 NN [5]:04.71% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN
B: Most sacrifices overall : [1]:30.23% Arasan 24.0 NN [2]:29.17% Pawn 2.0 NN [3]:28.57% Wasp 6.61 NN dev [4]:27.93% Obsidian 8.0 NN [5]:25.93% Viridithas 11.0.0 NN
C: Very short wins (55 moves or less) : [1]:11.38% Uralochka 3.40a NN [2]:10.59% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN [3]:10.47% Arasan 24.0 NN [4]:09.72% Fire 9.2 NN [5]:09.09% CSTal 2.00 NN
D: Most short wins overall : [1]:40.00% Texel 1.10 NN [2]:39.39% Weiss 230309 dev [3]:36.84% Velvet 5.3.0 NN [4]:34.72% Fire 9.2 NN [5]:29.41% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN
E: Average length of all won games : [1]:076 Velvet 5.3.0 NN [2]:078 Texel 1.10 NN [3]:081 Arasan 24.0 NN [4]:081 Dragon 3.3 NN (Komodo) [5]:081 Fire 9.2 NN
F: Smallest number of bad draws : [1]:09.88% Arasan 24.0 NN [2]:12.50% SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN [3]:13.39% Velvet 5.3.0 NN [4]:13.75% Uralochka 3.40a NN [5]:13.85% Stockfish 16 NN
You can download the new V5.61 of my EAS-Tool right here:
https://www.sp-cc.de/files/engines_aggr ... cs_tool.7z
IMO, these additional informations can be very useful, to understand the playing styles of engines better. And the "weak-spots", if there are some.
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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Thanks again Stefan!
Will checked this and you new version.
You know what is really very, very nice to see...
All the work the Arasan programmer put in over so many years!
Arasan was available before Winboard times, and all those years the programmer tried to find out interesting things. Alone the work he did with openings. Today we can say ... the programmer of Arasan is one of the fathers of computer chess and engine developments. I have great respect for such work.
But fact is ... for me and my small brain!

Arasan is for me the biggest opponent of Wasp in the last years. Both are from the USA and both have been chess programmers for a very long time. Both have great ideas. I build the competitions in my head ... not John Stanback and certainly not Jon Dart. I think such things are typical human freak thinking. Most of the time I look at the differences between Wasp and Arasan. Both programms are really very, very nice pieces of work. All the stats Arasan produced are really great, that is fact! An engine wind is good and ready for take-off on each runway in the world!!
Will checked this and you new version.
You know what is really very, very nice to see...
All the work the Arasan programmer put in over so many years!
Arasan was available before Winboard times, and all those years the programmer tried to find out interesting things. Alone the work he did with openings. Today we can say ... the programmer of Arasan is one of the fathers of computer chess and engine developments. I have great respect for such work.
But fact is ... for me and my small brain!

Arasan is for me the biggest opponent of Wasp in the last years. Both are from the USA and both have been chess programmers for a very long time. Both have great ideas. I build the competitions in my head ... not John Stanback and certainly not Jon Dart. I think such things are typical human freak thinking. Most of the time I look at the differences between Wasp and Arasan. Both programms are really very, very nice pieces of work. All the stats Arasan produced are really great, that is fact! An engine wind is good and ready for take-off on each runway in the world!!
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Re: FCP Tourney 2023/2024, 41.000 games, 40/20 ...
Hi Stefan,
you will make Ed Schröder again very happy ...

Let me give for 2. Advent for Ed Schröder a reason more ...
Round 13:
you will make Ed Schröder again very happy ...

Let me give for 2. Advent for Ed Schröder a reason more ...
Round 13:
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FCP-Tourney-2024
Round 13
40 moves in 20 minutes "repeatedly"
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
01. Stockfish 16 NN * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 27.5/40 534.00
02. Dragon 3.3 NN (Komodo) ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 27.5/40 532.50
03. Rebel EAS NN ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 25.5/40
04. Revenge 3.0 NN ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 1 25.0/40 480.25
05. RubiChess 20230918 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ * 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 25.0/40 479.50
06. Uralochka 3.40a NN ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 25.0/40 475.50
07. Berserk 12 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 25.0/40 475.00
08. Koivisto 9.2 NN dev ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 1 ½ 24.5/40
09. Caissa 1.14.1 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 24.0/40 463.50
10. Arasan 24.0 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 24.0/40 456.75
11. Obsidian 8.0 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 1 1 ½ ½ 24.0/40 454.75
12. CSTal 2.00 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 23.5/40 453.00
13. Igel 3.5.0 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 23.5/40 452.25
14. Alexandria 5.1.0 NN ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 23.0/40 440.75
15. Viridithas 11.0.0 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 1 1 ½ ½ 23.0/40 438.75
16. rofChade 3.1 NN ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 22.5/40
17. Clover 6.0 NN 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 1 22.0/40
18. Carp 3.0.1 NN ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 21.5/40 412.75
19. SlowChess Blitz 2.9 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 21.5/40 411.00
20. Minic 3.39 NN ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ * 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 20.5/40 395.75
21. Seer 2.7.0 NN ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 20.5/40 391.75
22. Fritz 19 NN (Gingko) 0 0 1 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 20.0/40
23. Stormphrax 3.0.0 NN ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 0 ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 19.5/40
24. Wasp 6.61 NN dev 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ * ½ ½ 1 1 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 19.0/40 360.75
25. Booot 7.2 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ ½ 19.0/40 358.25
26. Fire 9.2 NN ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ * 1 0 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 18.0/40 344.00
27. Velvet 5.3.0 NN ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 * 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 1 ½ 18.0/40 341.50
28. Akimbo 0.7.0 NN ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 1 1 * 1 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 1 1 17.5/40
29. Texel 1.10 NN ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 17.0/40 318.75
30. Black Marlin 8.0 NN 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ * 1 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 17.0/40 318.00
31. Superultra 1.0 NN 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 16.5/40
32. Weiss 230309 dev ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 1 ½ 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 ½ ½ ½ * ½ 0 1 ½ 1 1 ½ ½ 1 15.5/40
33. Halogen 11.4 NN 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ 15.0/40 279.00
34. Nemorino 6.11 NN dev ½ 0 0 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 1 ½ * 1 ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 15.0/40 273.75
35. Smallbrain 7.0 NN 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 * ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 1 14.5/40 284.50
36. Devre 4.0 NN 0 ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ * ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 14.5/40 269.00
37. Pawn 2.0 NN ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ * ½ 0 1 ½ 14.0/40
38. Chess.cpp 4.0 NN ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 1 0 ½ 1 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ * ½ ½ 1 13.5/40 253.25
39. Marvin 6.2.0 NN 0 ½ ½ 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ 1 ½ * ½ 1 13.5/40 241.25
40. BlackCore 6.0 NN ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ * 0 13.0/40
41. Willow 3.1 NN 0 ½ ½ 0 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 0 0 ½ 0 ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 ½ ½ 0 0 1 * 11.5/40
White Wins = 190 ( 23.17% )
Draws = 567 ( 69.15% )
Black Wins = 63 ( 7.68% )
Average = 192.42