"The search more interesting than eval" --> that's exactly my reason to do NNUE Then I can forget about eval, figuring out NNUE in detail is some work, but in hindsight far FAR less work than handcoding and finetuning an eval (been there, it takes months/years to make it really good). And the NNUE code? Very few lines after all, way WAY less than fully handcoded eval. Sorry if I am over enthousiastic, I just started and the results blow me away...
Bas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 21, 2026 9:21 pm
Thanks for the nice compliment Dann, are you in machine learning too? I am doing JAVA now and can't imagine going back to C++, somehow I can get things quicker done in JAVA. Python is even shorter, but too slow. Man, the things you can do in a 50 line Python script totally amazes me, at times I am jealous
I like NN engines but I am not interested in coding that. The search of the engine is far more interesting to me than the eval.
I spend most of my chess time analyzing chess puzzles and studies.
As for coding, my main thrust at work is C++ but we also do .net and java.
Bas wrote: ↑Fri Feb 20, 2026 5:57 pm
Took up the old hobby, any people I know here? Chris W, Gert Isenberg, Richard Pijl from the Baron, Tony W, probably Ed Schroder? Many others but it's so long ago...yet I can't leave it alone in times of ML, nice to combine hobbies like chess, programming and ML. Is Bob Hyatt still active? And Bruce?
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Then I can forget about eval, figuring out NNUE in detail is some work, but in hindsight far FAR less work than handcoding and finetuning an eval (been there, it takes months/years to make it really good). And the NNUE code? Very few lines after all, way WAY less than fully handcoded eval. Sorry if I am over enthousiastic, I just started and the results blow me away...