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Just started...................................

MASTER & SERVANTS TOURNAMENT
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Participants:

1.-SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 - the champion on my PC;
2.-Stockfish_23020319_x64_bmi2 - the latest SF development version;
3.-ProteusSF-Piranha-15.1-bmi2 - a gift given to humanity by a galactic programming genius :wink:

Tournament conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for all engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for all engines
-NNs: defaults (Stockfish_23020319_x64_bmi2 uses the new net - nn-bc24c101ada0.nnue; SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 uses an old SF
net: nn-3c0054ea9860.nnue; ProteusSF-Piranha-15.1-bmi2 uses also an old SF net: nn-ad9b42354671.nnue)
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

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Attention!: the champion on my PC (SpectralByLOBO) uses a special experience file (not very big, rather small, but very refined - it does not come with the engine archive and is not related to the authors). Also (extremely important): the engine settings ARE NOT the default ones! So don't express yourself a priori about the engine's capabilities. The results speak for themselves.
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Halfway in my tournament:

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+4 -1 =46

+21 Elo points in 51 games For SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 vs.Stockfish_23020319_x64_bmi2 (the latest SF)

+6 -0 =45

+42 Elo points in 51 games For SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 vs.ProteusSF-Piranha-15.1-bmi2 (seems to me just a SF 15.1 with .bin book direct access)

A sample from my tournament (at the 31st move SF indicates -0.17 :lol: ):

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Sylwy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:03 pm Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-NNs: defaults (Stockfish_22122106_x64_bmi2 uses a new net - nn-335a9b2d8a80.nnue)
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

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+11 -1 =88

+35 Elo points in 100 games match for SpectralByLobo-bmi2 (in fact StockfishMZ_070722-bmi2).

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NB: Old CB EliteTournament 2022 continues. :wink: Halfway in my tournament:

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Where can I download this Opening book ? ===> SuperGM_4mvs.abk
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Hello:
Chessqueen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:44 pmWhere can I download this Opening book ? ===> SuperGM_4mvs.abk
From this link:

https://www.sp-cc.de/files/8_plies_book.zip

This is a collection of books, not only the one you have requested. Once you unzip the file, open ArenaGUI folder and there is SuperGM_4mvs.abk opening book.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
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Final point in my tournament:

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+5 -2 =93

+14 Elo points in 100 games for SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 vs.Stockfish_23020319_x64_bmi2.

+7 -0 =93

+28 Elo points in 100 games for SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 vs.ProteusSF-Piranha-15.1-bmi2.

Conclusions:

1.-SpectralByLOBO-bmi2 remains the best chess engine on my PC (already for 8 months and several thousand games played);

2.-Stockfish_23020319_x64_bmi2- the best SF I've tested so far. An impressive progress;

3.-ProteusSF-Piranha-15.1-bmi2 ............ :lol: ................. :lol: ............... No comment !
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Ethereal-14.00-pext-avx2
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result:

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+11 -4 =85

+28 Elo points in 100 games for Ethereal-14.00-pext-avx2

A clear number 3 among the original engines. And with a very nice game! Congratulations !

Berserk 10 x64 has 3577 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).
Berserk 9 x64 has 3584 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).
Ethereal 14.00 x64 has 3588 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).

Just an example:



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Next:

Clover 3.3 versus Caissa 1.6 !
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The situation after 26 games in the match Clover 3.3 - Caissa 1.6 (both are new versions):

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+5 -1 = 20

+56 Elo points for Clover 3.3 !
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This new Clover version is very powerful:

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Clover.3.3-avx2 vs. Caissa_1.6_AVX2_BMI2
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases for both engines & 5-men Gaviota gtb only for Caissa_1.6_AVX2_BMI2
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result:

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+25 -7 =68

+63 Elo points in 100 games for Clover.3.3-avx2

Caissa 1.5 x64 has 3405 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).
Caissa 1.4 x64 has 3403 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).
Clover 3.2.1 x64 has 3408 Elo points (CCRL Blitz).

Caisa 1.6 has already +10 Elo points face to Caissa 1.5 (Stefan Pohl rating list). It is possible that Clover 3.3 has over 3500 Elo points in Stefan Pohl's list. Congratulations to the young author! :wink:

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Alexandria-3.5-x86-64-bmi2
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Match conditions:

-TC=4'+2"
-Hash=256 MB
-GUI: Arena 3.5.1
-Book: SuperGM_4mvs.abk (8 plies book) for both engines
-1 thread-CPU=Intel i5-7400-3GHz (Kaby Lake)
-TBS: 6-men Syzygy bases (only for Smallbrain_7.0_x86-64-bmi2)
-NNs: defaults
-Ponder: off
-OS: Windows 10 Home.

The final result:

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+5 -33 =62

-100 Elo points in 100 games

Smallbrain 7.0 x64 has 3449 Elo points (Stefan Pohl rating list).
Alexandria 3.1.0 x64 has 3289 Elo points (Stefan Pohl rating list)...... -160 Elo points face Smallbrain 7.0 in Stefan Pohl rating list
160-100 = +60 Elo points Alexandria 3.5.0 engine rating improvement over Alexandria 3.1.0 after my 100 games match against Smallbrain 7.0

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CEGT found a huge difference (+160 Elo points). It is true, more games and more opponents. However, the difference (+100 Elo points) face to my match seems a bit big to me.....Let's wait for Stefan Pohl's result....

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