Dragon by Komodo Chess

[Mars]

Speaking of SF NN: Comparing the two in their playing styles, can someone pls shed some light on the differences? Assuming Dragon being trained on an own, presumably handcrafted collection of games, does it play more positionally sound in quiet/equal positions than SF? Potentially at the cost of a slightly weaker search? Any opinions regarding their respective playing strengths and weaknesses, compared to each other?
Thx, Martin

[JJJ]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

[lkaufman]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

[Marcus9]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I think it would be great, very interesting if many games were played in order to have a clearer view of the result and to get Andrew used the odds at best

[Chessqueen]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I can arrange a match Jorge Samour versus Komodo Dragon by paying him $45.00 if he wins and $15.00 if he draw. All that I need is your latest version of Komodo Dragon to be email to my email which I would provide if you want the match of 5 games. Knight odds

This is my latest system which should be fast enough to beat Jorge Sammour ==> https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/de ... 9b28430780

[JJJ]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I think it would be nice. I think So already player at Knight handicap against Stockfish some years ago at 1 min and lost badly :

[lkaufman]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I think it would be nice. I think So already player at Knight handicap against Stockfish some years ago at 1 min and lost badly :

Of course no human has much chance against Dragon with knight odds at one minute without increment, the one second inc makes all the difference. Also I note that in the three games of SF vs So, Wesley never played the obviously correct reply 1...d5! to 1e4 when the b1 knight is missing, he probably didn't even look at knight odds before the games. In fact 1.e4 is just a bad move for White unless Black is forbidden to reply 1...d5. That's a big problem with knight odds. I suspect that many of Morphy's opponents either played with the restriction of answering 1e4 with 1...e5 or else did so on grounds of sportsmanship. We would either have to alternate knights and just avoid 1e4 when b1 is off, or add the 1e4 e5 restriction.

[BrendanJNorman]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I can arrange a match Jorge Samour versus Komodo Dragon by paying him $45.00 if he wins and $15.00 if he draw. All that I need is your latest version of Komodo Dragon to be email to my email which I would provide if you want the match of 5 games. Knight odds

This is my latest system which should be fast enough to beat Jorge Sammour ==> https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/de ... 9b28430780

Or here's an alternative which doesn't involve your little scam (do you also go for Scholar's mate in the opening? )...

...here it is....wait for it...

...the match is played on chess.com...like all the others!

[Uri Blass]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I think it would be nice. I think So already player at Knight handicap against Stockfish some years ago at 1 min and lost badly :

Of course no human has much chance against Dragon with knight odds at one minute without increment, the one second inc makes all the difference. Also I note that in the three games of SF vs So, Wesley never played the obviously correct reply 1...d5! to 1e4 when the b1 knight is missing, he probably didn't even look at knight odds before the games. In fact 1.e4 is just a bad move for White unless Black is forbidden to reply 1...d5. That's a big problem with knight odds. I suspect that many of Morphy's opponents either played with the restriction of answering 1e4 with 1...e5 or else did so on grounds of sportsmanship. We would either have to alternate knights and just avoid 1e4 when b1 is off, or add the 1e4 e5 restriction.

Or maybe they did not know that 1...d5 is the best reply against 1.e4 with knight odds.

I do not see why do you think that it should be obvious that 1...d5 is the correct reply when knight b1 is missing.

[BrendanJNorman]

I would like to see penguin against Komodo at Bullet. It would be great !

What would you think would be a fair match? Knight odds at 1' + 1" perhaps?

I think it would be nice. I think So already player at Knight handicap against Stockfish some years ago at 1 min and lost badly :

Of course no human has much chance against Dragon with knight odds at one minute without increment, the one second inc makes all the difference. Also I note that in the three games of SF vs So, Wesley never played the obviously correct reply 1...d5! to 1e4 when the b1 knight is missing, he probably didn't even look at knight odds before the games. In fact 1.e4 is just a bad move for White unless Black is forbidden to reply 1...d5. That's a big problem with knight odds. I suspect that many of Morphy's opponents either played with the restriction of answering 1e4 with 1...e5 or else did so on grounds of sportsmanship. We would either have to alternate knights and just avoid 1e4 when b1 is off, or add the 1e4 e5 restriction.

Or maybe they did not know that 1...d5 is the best reply against 1.e4 with knight odds.

I do not see why do you think that it should be obvious that 1...d5 is the correct reply when knight b1 is missing.

Pretty self-evident isn't it?

The only drawback of the Scandinavian (to counterweight the overwhelming strength of a centralized queen) is that the queen can immediately be attacked with 3.Nb1-c3, costing black time and kicking the queen out of her nice post.

Without a knight on b1...

Another point in addition to this is that black having a more open game (Scandi is very good for this) allows him to trade pieces more readily, bringing the knight up ending closer and closer.