Banksia GUI released
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Ovyron
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Re: Banksia GUI released
Probably auto-detect if there's a .BMP file with the engine name on the folder so people that already set their engines in the Fritz GUI are set up, but allow users to change it when installing the engine.
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carldaman
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Re: Banksia GUI released
(in response to Ferdy's last post)
Current FIDE rules notwithstanding, common sense would suggest those positions (K+B/N vs K+B/N) should be as good as 'insufficient material'. If tablebase adjudication was present it would automatically be drawn in 99.99% of cases.
It's true that very unlikely checkmates (in the corner of the board) may still be possible with that material, and hence the current rules, but this possibility is so remote it does not make much sense to let the game go on. Of course, one could argue that a study-like position could maybe occur where checkmate could be delivered on the next move and we don't want that situation unfairly adjudicated as an insufficient material draw.
One potential compromise tweak to this rule would be to adjudicate these positions as draws, but only if neither King is in the corner. Otherwise, let the game continue until this condition is no longer applicable or a checkmate/stalemate or capture occurs.
Not sure if a GUI could implement this easily without at least 4-man TB adjudication.
Current FIDE rules notwithstanding, common sense would suggest those positions (K+B/N vs K+B/N) should be as good as 'insufficient material'. If tablebase adjudication was present it would automatically be drawn in 99.99% of cases.
It's true that very unlikely checkmates (in the corner of the board) may still be possible with that material, and hence the current rules, but this possibility is so remote it does not make much sense to let the game go on. Of course, one could argue that a study-like position could maybe occur where checkmate could be delivered on the next move and we don't want that situation unfairly adjudicated as an insufficient material draw.
One potential compromise tweak to this rule would be to adjudicate these positions as draws, but only if neither King is in the corner. Otherwise, let the game continue until this condition is no longer applicable or a checkmate/stalemate or capture occurs.
Not sure if a GUI could implement this easily without at least 4-man TB adjudication.
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BrendanJNorman
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Re: Banksia GUI released
But why model the Fritz way of doing things when Fritz is the least user friendly GUI for computer chess?
The fritz method means that you essentially need a different .exe for every engine personality (logo) you create, even if using the same engine.
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Ovyron
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Re: Banksia GUI released
No, it'd just check if it's already set up to set a default image, just so people that already did it for Fritz don't need to do anything to get a logo for their engine.
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BrendanJNorman
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Re: Banksia GUI released
Sure. Arena already does this. If it finds a .BMP file with the same name as the exe, it assigns it automatically.
But if there is none, it can be assigned with a simple selection box.
Best of both worlds.
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Ovyron
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Re: Banksia GUI released
That's what I was suggesting
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phhnguyen
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Re: Banksia GUI released
Thanks all for suggestions!
I am still curious about engines’ logos, not on techniques but copyrights/distributions:
- I see the majority of engines comes without logos (for example, Stockfish, Crafty, Komodo, Lc0 are released without them). Where can users find and download logos?
- For logos that don't be released with their engines' packages, as I understand they don't be covered by clear licenses either. Does anyone have problems with copyright issues? For example, I downloaded the logo from Stockfish website and used it as Stockfish’s logo, is there any problem if I distribute Stockfish binary (OK based on its license) with that logo? What happens if I slightly modify logos (such as cropping, changing sizes...)?
I know I can ask engines’ authors but it’s impossible for dealing with a large number.
To chess engines' authors: please release your engines with logos (in the packets, under licenses' scopes) if they have some already.
I am still curious about engines’ logos, not on techniques but copyrights/distributions:
- I see the majority of engines comes without logos (for example, Stockfish, Crafty, Komodo, Lc0 are released without them). Where can users find and download logos?
- For logos that don't be released with their engines' packages, as I understand they don't be covered by clear licenses either. Does anyone have problems with copyright issues? For example, I downloaded the logo from Stockfish website and used it as Stockfish’s logo, is there any problem if I distribute Stockfish binary (OK based on its license) with that logo? What happens if I slightly modify logos (such as cropping, changing sizes...)?
I know I can ask engines’ authors but it’s impossible for dealing with a large number.
To chess engines' authors: please release your engines with logos (in the packets, under licenses' scopes) if they have some already.
https://banksiagui.com
The most features chess GUI, based on opensource Banksia - the chess tournament manager
The most features chess GUI, based on opensource Banksia - the chess tournament manager
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Gabor Szots
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Re: Banksia GUI released
I have obtained most of my logos from ChessMosaic but the site seems to have been closed. Send me an e-mail (see my profile) and I'll send the collection to you.phhnguyen wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2020 1:43 pm Thanks all for suggestions!
I am still curious about engines’ logos, not on techniques but copyrights/distributions:
- I see the majority of engines comes without logos (for example, Stockfish, Crafty, Komodo, Lc0 are released without them). Where can users find and download logos?
- For logos that don't be released with their engines' packages, as I understand they don't be covered by clear licenses either. Does anyone have problems with copyright issues? For example, I downloaded the logo from Stockfish website and used it as Stockfish’s logo, is there any problem if I distribute Stockfish binary (OK based on its license) with that logo? What happens if I slightly modify logos (such as cropping, changing sizes...)?
I know I can ask engines’ authors but it’s impossible for dealing with a large number.
To chess engines' authors: please release your engines with logos (in the packets, under licenses' scopes) if they have some already.
Gabor Szots
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carldaman
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Re: Banksia GUI released
Is any part of ChessMosaic reachable by way of the Wayback Machine (a much overrated tool, imho)?
ChessMosaic was great, but too bad it's gone. It almost feels like the owner took his marbles and went home.
ChessMosaic was great, but too bad it's gone. It almost feels like the owner took his marbles and went home.
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Guenther
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Re: Banksia GUI released
It is ofc not overrated (and much more than a tool).
Why don't you simply try it for chessmosaic instead of complaining?
https://web.archive.org/web/20181009213 ... tion1.html