In my behalf I can say that I still does not play at full trothle with it, as ever happens when you begin to probe an engine, because you just play a little bit shallow and fast to see what happenes. I could see as you how supicious his moves are, BUT to defeat them you need a more slow, careful play. I am sure -???- I will win it IF I play my best....
Full of hopes regards
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OpenTal - almost new engine
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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
Wrote a few words about OpenTal here:
http://chessncognac.com/opental-chess-engine/
You can download PGNs on the page with a button on the bottom left corner of the board.
http://chessncognac.com/opental-chess-engine/
You can download PGNs on the page with a button on the bottom left corner of the board.

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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
Great post, Brendan. Liked it!BrendanJNorman wrote:Wrote a few words about OpenTal here:
http://chessncognac.com/opental-chess-engine/
You can download PGNs on the page with a button on the bottom left corner of the board.

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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
Thanks!gbtami wrote:Great post, Brendan. Liked it!BrendanJNorman wrote:Wrote a few words about OpenTal here:
http://chessncognac.com/opental-chess-engine/
You can download PGNs on the page with a button on the bottom left corner of the board.

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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
BrendanJNorman wrote:This is the only engine I've seen that plays Tal's ...Nf4 here.jdart wrote:Nice, but not really Tal-like, because the sacrifices are sound!
--Jon
Speculative as hell!
I actually used this position (as well as others) while tuning, as a guide.
Komodo 10 tweaked!
New game
2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Komodo 10 64-bit:
New game
2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Komodo 10 64-bit:
1...Nf4 2.gxf4
= (-0.04 --) Depth: 24 00:00:08 18344kN
(, 28.12.2017)
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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
Settings please...Robert Flesher wrote:BrendanJNorman wrote:This is the only engine I've seen that plays Tal's ...Nf4 here.jdart wrote:Nice, but not really Tal-like, because the sacrifices are sound!
--Jon
Speculative as hell!
I actually used this position (as well as others) while tuning, as a guide.
Komodo 10 tweaked!
New game
2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Komodo 10 64-bit:
New game
2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Komodo 10 64-bit:
1...Nf4 2.gxf4
= (-0.04 --) Depth: 24 00:00:08 18344kN
(, 28.12.2017)


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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
Komodo Dynamic with Dynamism=200 doesn't consider anything else!Robert Flesher wrote:Komodo 10 tweaked!
New game
2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - - 0 1
Analysis by Komodo 10 64-bit:
1...Nf4 2.gxf4
= (-0.04 --) Depth: 24 00:00:08 18344kN
(, 28.12.2017)
[d]2r3k1/pp4bp/3p2p1/3Ppb1n/1qr5/2N1B1PP/PP2QPBK/R1R5 b - -
18.00 0:01 -0.40-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (4.364.307) 2356
18.00 0:02 -0.46++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (5.138.771) 2346
19.00 0:02 -0.52++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (5.549.294) 2334
19.00 0:02 -0.46-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (6.408.523) 2355
19.00 0:03 -0.52++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (7.213.311) 2374
20.01 0:03 -0.46-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (8.221.727) 2396
20.01 0:03 -0.40-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (9.431.703) 2404
20.01 0:05 -0.31-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (13.009.572) 2373
20.01 0:07 -0.18-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (17.842.112) 2339
20.01 0:08 -0.28++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (20.918.053) 2329
21.01 0:09 -0.22-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (22.916.543) 2334
21.01 0:10 -0.16-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (25.323.593) 2334
21.01 0:12 -0.22++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (30.005.961) 2331
22.01 0:14 -0.19 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 3.a3 Qa5 4.Bd2 Be5 5.f3 Qb6 6.Be1 Qb3 7.Bf2 a5 8.Qd1 Qxb2 9.Ra2 Rxc3 10.Rxb2 Rxc1 11.Qe2 Bxb2 12.Qxb2 R1c2 13.Qb6 Rd2 14.Bd4 Rcc2 (32.897.802) 2335
23.01 0:15 -0.25++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (36.726.261) 2346
23.01 0:16 -0.31++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (37.537.187) 2345
23.01 0:17 -0.25-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (40.606.411) 2351
23.01 0:20 -0.12-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (49.016.029) 2368
23.01 0:26 -0.22++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (61.759.463) 2368
24.01 0:27 -0.28++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (64.800.111) 2380
24.01 0:31 -0.22-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (74.307.000) 2375
24.01 0:37 -0.28++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (88.862.048) 2369
25.01 0:42 -0.22-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (100.892.925) 2377
25.01 0:47 -0.16-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (112.497.845) 2380
25.01 1:04 -0.07-- 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 (151.612.922) 2367
25.01 1:41 -0.14++ 1...Nf4 2.gxf4 exf4 (240.646.858) 2367
best move: Nh5-f4 time: 1:41.656 min n/s: 2.367.351 nodes: 240.657.480
Last edited by Ovyron on Thu Dec 28, 2017 2:45 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
(in case you want mine as well )BrendanJNorman wrote:Settings please...![]()

(Komodo 10.1)
For black side:
Reduction=-15
Dynamism=200
Contempt=-100
White Contempt=true
Null Scale=27
For white side:
Reduction=-15
Dynamism=200
Contempt=100
White Contempt=true
Null Scale=27
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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
I loaded arena 3.5.1 with opental. set level to 1 sec /move. (above picosend/move I have no chance. ) moved p k4 with white. It did not respond. loaded stockfish and moved almost straight away.
what should I be doing to get opental to work ?
(I like the idea of chess software thinking I know you are useless and am going to march straight to your king and mating and am going to safely sacrifice a piece in the process )
what should I be doing to get opental to work ?
(I like the idea of chess software thinking I know you are useless and am going to march straight to your king and mating and am going to safely sacrifice a piece in the process )
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Re: OpenTal - almost new engine
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I loaded arena 3.5.1 with opental. set level to 1 sec /move. (above picosend/move I have no chance. ) moved p k4 with white. It did not respond. loaded stockfish and moved almost straight away.
Also, the OpenTal distribution contains three different .exe files. Try opening each of them. A black window should appear. Type "bench" and see which one responds. Use that one.
Pawel Koziol
http://www.pkoziol.cal24.pl/rodent/rodent.htm
http://www.pkoziol.cal24.pl/rodent/rodent.htm