Movei00_8_438 vs. Novag Jade QR odds

[LucenaTheLucid]

Movei plays 23...Ra1. Looks like she wants to trade bishops and harass the king with her rook. My bet is that Jade will 0-0 next move.

[Steve B]

Movei plays 23...Ra1. Looks like she wants to trade bishops and harass the king with her rook. My bet is that Jade will 0-0 next move.

You Win your Bet
Jade Castles late with 23..0-0

Better Late Then Never Regards
Steve

[LucenaTheLucid]

Movei thinks long and hard about bxb6 but instead opts to play f4

[d] 5rk1/p4ppp/1b2p3/3pP3/2r2P2/3KB3/1PN2P1P/R7 b - - 0 4

I think at this point with Movei down a minor piece and a pawn she will have trouble even drawing unless she catches jade sleeping.

[Steve B]

Movei thinks long and hard about bxb6 but instead opts to play f4
I think at this point with Movei down a minor piece and a pawn she will have trouble even drawing unless she catches jade sleeping.

Jade was hoping for the exchange of B's but forges ahead with.. 24..Rfc8
as long as there is mating material on the board Movei has a very good chance to draw and even to win

Doubling Down On the C File Regards
Steve

[Uri Blass]

Movei thinks long and hard about bxb6 but instead opts to play f4
I think at this point with Movei down a minor piece and a pawn she will have trouble even drawing unless she catches jade sleeping.

Jade was hoping for the exchange of B's but forges ahead with.. 24..Rfc8
as long as there is mating material on the board Movei has a very good chance to draw and even to win

Doubling Down On the C File Regards
Steve

I do not see the very good chance to draw or to win.
I do not suggest to resign for movei but I am almost sure that Movei is going to lose.

Uri

[bob]

Movei thinks long and hard about bxb6 but instead opts to play f4
I think at this point with Movei down a minor piece and a pawn she will have trouble even drawing unless she catches jade sleeping.

Jade was hoping for the exchange of B's but forges ahead with.. 24..Rfc8
as long as there is mating material on the board Movei has a very good chance to draw and even to win

Doubling Down On the C File Regards
Steve

I do not see the very good chance to draw or to win.
I do not suggest to resign for movei but I am almost sure that Movei is going to lose.

Uri

These kinds of games are _extremely_ tough for a computer to win. I learned this years ago when trying to get Cray Blitz to play gambits. It would do so, but if you forced it into the KGA as white, it would recover the pawn as quickly as possible, usually dissipating the attack completely. Same thing here, only worse. You can try to nickel and dime yourself closer to material equality, but since you can win a pawn here and there by trading, you go right into a lost position. Very difficult to avoid. very...

[Steve B]

Movei thinks long and hard about bxb6 but instead opts to play f4
I think at this point with Movei down a minor piece and a pawn she will have trouble even drawing unless she catches jade sleeping.

Jade was hoping for the exchange of B's but forges ahead with.. 24..Rfc8
as long as there is mating material on the board Movei has a very good chance to draw and even to win

Doubling Down On the C File Regards
Steve

I do not see the very good chance to draw or to win.
I do not suggest to resign for movei but I am almost sure that Movei is going to lose.

Uri

These kinds of games are _extremely_ tough for a computer to win. I learned this years ago when trying to get Cray Blitz to play gambits. It would do so, but if you forced it into the KGA as white, it would recover the pawn as quickly as possible, usually dissipating the attack completely. Same thing here, only worse. You can try to nickel and dime yourself closer to material equality, but since you can win a pawn here and there by trading, you go right into a lost position. Very difficult to avoid. very...

Well anything can still happen (and probably will) in this game yet.. but if the dedicated computer does manage to draw or win then it would be consistent with the prior 6 games i have already played against 2700+ PC Engines
so far the 1700 Dedicated's have a record of 2 wins and 4 Draws at R odds
in each game the Engine's won back material soon enough..but in doing so .. so much material was exchanged off the board.. that the resulting positions were either dead lost or dead drawn for the Engines
the only loss so far was against GM Kaufman who as both a very strong human player .. and an expert in the old dedicated computers ..knew just how to set the dedicated up.. to fall flat on its face

Steve

[mhull]

the only loss so far was against GM Kaufman who as both a very strong human player .. and an expert in the old dedicated computers ..knew just how to set the dedicated up.. to fall flat on its face

Steve

Don't know why exactly but that's the funniest thing I've read here in a long time. Computers don't even know how to beat the weakies of their own kind.

[LucenaTheLucid]

Movei now decides to go ahead and go with the bishop exchange and plays Bxb6.

[d] 2r3k1/p4ppp/1B2p3/3pP3/2r2P2/3K4/1PN2P1P/R7 b - - 0 5

[Steve B]

Movei now decides to go ahead and go with the bishop exchange and plays Bxb6.

[d] 2r3k1/p4ppp/1B2p3/3pP3/2r2P2/3K4/1PN2P1P/R7 b - - 0 5

Jade eagerly recaptures with...
25..axb6

Steve