The Clone Tournament
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Re: The Clone Tournament
I think they forgot to set the special Anti Rybka ™ settings in Toga. It isn't perfect yet but I'm working on it. Works with sonar and depthcharges. For instance look at the depths I got with one of my last versions today:Spock wrote:Hmm... Toga is not doing that well
[d]r4rk1/p4ppp/qp2p3/b5B1/n1R5/5N2/PP2QPPP/1R4K1 w - - bm Bf6; id "Alekine-Sterk, Budapest 1921";
r4rk1/p4ppp/qp2p3/b5B1/n1R5/5N2/PP2QPPP/1R4K1 w - -
Engine: Toga II 1.4 Checkov Beta_4 test (256 MB)
by Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey
10/23 0:00 +1.35 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.Ne5 Nb3 6.Rf4 (136.938)
11/23 0:00 +1.54 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 f6 6.Bxc5 Rxc5
7.Rxc5 bxc5 8.Rb7 (182.258)
12/32 0:00 +1.46 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.Bxc5 Rxc5 6.Rxc5 bxc5
7.Rb7 a5 8.Ne5 f6 9.Nc6 (247.849)
13/33 0:01 +1.46 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 f6 6.h5 e5 7.Bxc5 Rxc5
8.Rxc5 bxc5 9.Rb7 (785.432) 600
14/38 0:01 +1.47 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.Ne5 Nb3 6.Qd1 Rxc4
7.Nxc4 Na5 8.Ra4 Qb3 (1.085.261) 598
15/41 0:02 +1.74 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 f6 6.Nd4 e5 7.Nf5 Rc6
8.Bxc5 Rxc5 9.Rxc5 bxc5 10.Rb7 (1.768.068) 615
16/41 0:04 +1.66 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 f6 6.Nd4 Ne4 7.Ra4 Qb2
8.Ba3 Qa2 9.Rxa7 Qxc4 10.Qxc4 Rxc4
11.Rxa8+ Kf7 (2.667.084) 605
17/41 0:05 +1.76 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.Bxc5 Rxc5 6.Ra4 Qb2
7.Rcb4 Qc1 8.Rxb6 Qxf1+ 9.Kxf1 Rc7
10.Nd4 Rac8 11.Rb1 Rc1+ 12.Rxc1 Rxc1+
13.Ke2 (3.547.775) 612
18/44 0:09 +1.55 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 Rc7 6.Bd6 Rc6 7.Bxc5 Rxc5
8.Rxc5 bxc5 9.Rb7 Rd8 10.Ne5 f6
11.Nc6 Rd2 12.Rxa7 (5.671.405) 623
19/44 0:16 +1.51 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 Rc7 6.Bd6 Rc6 7.Bxc5 Rxc5
8.Rxc5 bxc5 9.Rb7 Rd8 10.Qc1 Qd5
11.Rxa7 c4 12.Ne1 Qc5 13.Qa1 (10.217.569) 618
20/46 0:24 +1.68 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 Rc7 6.Bd6 Rc6 7.Bxc5 Rxc5
8.Rxc5 bxc5 9.Rb7 Rd8 10.Qc1 Qa5
11.Qf4 f6 12.g4 Rd1+ 13.Kg2 (15.811.893) 640
21/47 0:41 +1.66 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 h6 6.Ne5 f6 7.Ng6 Qd2
8.Bxc5 Rxc5 9.Rxc5 bxc5 10.Rb7 Qc2
11.Ne7+ Kh7 12.Nc6 Qe4 13.Qb5 Qe1+
14.Qf1 (27.017.089) 658
22/55 1:08 +1.59 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.Bxc5 Rxc5 6.Rxc5 bxc5
7.Rc4 Rc8 8.Ne5 Qb2 9.Nd7 a5 10.h3 a4
11.Rxa4 h5 12.h4 Qb7 13.Ne5 Qc7
14.Qa6 (45.452.986) 664
23/59 1:49 +1.59 1.Qf1 Nc5 2.b4 Bxb4 3.Rbxb4 Qxa2
4.Be7 Rfc8 5.h4 h6 6.Bxc5 Rxc5
7.Rxc5 bxc5 8.Rc4 Rc8 9.Rc1 Qd5
10.Qa6 Ra8 11.Re1 Qd8 12.Qc6 Qc8
13.Qd6 Qf8 14.Qc7 (73.168.411) 670
best move: Qe2-f1 time: 2:29.203 min n/s: 674.155 CPU 100.0% n/s(1CPU): 674.155 nodes: 100.470.000
The only problem is that it was tactically blind, after reaching a certain depth it finds almost nothin new. No Bf6. But great depths!

Sune's new Frenzee is doing great there in Dave's tournament! Is your tourney the first from the CCRL it is participating in Ray? I can't find it on any of the CCRL lists yet.
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Re: The Clone Tournament

Nice logo Ulysses! And nice tournament!
Eelco
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Re: The Clone Tournament
That's surprising. I picked Toga to win this tourney.Spock wrote:Hmm... Toga is not doing that well
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Re: The Clone Tournament
Ovyron wrote:Now even tourneys are cloned!![]()
Yesterday, Ray started a new tourney and asked what version of Toga should participate. I wanted Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov to participate but went 5 hours too late! So I decided to make my first tourney a clone of his tourney but with this Toga, and with the difference that my tourney will have a greatly lower quality:
Athlon 2.1Ghz 32bit
Several GUIs
1'+ 7" with ponder off
64MB hash each engine
6-men online tablebases (Games adjudicated upon reaching 6 piece endings)
No books
Round robin each color, 112 games
To make up for that, I created new engine logos for all the participating engines:
Rybka 1.0
Fruit 2.3.1
Toga II 3.1.2 Chekov
Spike 1.2 Turin
Glaurung 2.0.1
Naum 2.0
Bright 0.2c
Frenzee Dec07
You can also try to guess what engines are going to end in 1st, 2nd and 3rd places (But if you are going to pick the same engines as another person, just do it on a different order.) Feedback appreciated
I grabbed a few of these logos for my personal use. Hope you dont mind

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Re: The Clone Tournament
I blame the compile! Here's some sneak preview of Toga games on my computer:Spock wrote:Hmm... Toga is not doing that well
[White "Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit"]
[Black "Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. Nc3 {0.05/12 5}
d5 {0.31/13 5} 2. Nf3 {0.06/12 12} d4 {0.23/13 6} 3. Ne4 {0.11/10 2} Nc6 {
0.03/12 7} 4. c3 {-0.01/11 11} e5 {-0.33/11 7} 5. d3 {-0.06/10 12} f5 {
-0.34/12 5} 6. Neg5 {-0.11/10 6} h6 {-0.61/12 8} 7. Nh3 {-0.15/10 3} g5 {
-1.15/12 19} 8. Qa4 {-0.30/10 9} Bd7 {-1.31/11 7} 9. Nhg1 {-0.33/10 6} Qf6 {
-1.39/11 13} 10. Rb1 {-0.42/10 9} Bd6 {-1.39/11 8} 11. g3 {-0.40/10 9} g4 {
-1.22/11 8} 12. Nd2 {-0.37/10 5} Nce7 {-1.22/12 5} 13. Qb3 {-0.46/12 10} Bc6 {
-1.17/13 8} 14. f3 {-0.50/11 3} b5 {-1.17/11 8} 15. c4 {-0.28/10 4} Rb8 {
-1.10/12 6} 16. Bg2 {-0.30/9 8} Qg7 {-1.01/11 8} 17. Qc2 {-0.32/10 5} bxc4 {
-1.03/11 5} 18. Nxc4 {-0.36/9 2} Nf6 {-1.03/11 8} 19. Bd2 {-0.33/9 3} O-O {
-1.34/10 5} 20. Qc1 {-0.36/9 5} Kh7 {-1.31/12 6} 21. Qc2 {-0.59/9 7} Nfd5 {
-1.52/11 5} 22. Na5 {-0.82/9 10} Nb4 {-2.00/12 5} 23. Qc1 {-1.17/11 6} Nxa2 {
-2.63/12 7} 24. Qc2 {-1.38/11 6} Nb4 {-2.87/14 11} 25. Qd1 {-1.92/12 15} Bd5 {
-3.15/11 8} 26. Kf1 {-1.87/10 7} e4 {-3.68/12 5} 27. dxe4 {-2.31/10 6} fxe4 {
-4.24/9 3} 28. f4 {-3.12/11 10} Qg8 {-4.35/11 8} 29. e3 {-2.36/10 6} dxe3 {
-4.47/10 8} 30. Bxe3 {-2.82/11 7} Nf5 {-5.10/12 10} 31. Bd2 {-4.11/11 14} e3 {
-6.65/9 6} 32. Bxb4 {-4.71/11 30} e2+ {-7.46/10 4} 33. Qxe2 {-6.45/10 5} Bxg2+
{-8.49/10 8} 34. Kxg2 {-7.33/11 8} Qd5+ {-8.83/9 7} 35. Kf1 {-7.82/10 6} Rxb4 {
-10.72/9 7} 36. Nf3 {-8.68/9 5} gxf3 {-17.66/8 7} 37. Qc2 {-17.90/8 8} f2 {
-20.70/7 7} 38. Nb3 {-320.00/7 1} Qxh1+ {-#7/8 8} 39. Ke2 {-320.00/6 0} Re8+ {
-#6/9 3} 40. Kd2 {0.00/1 0} Qe1+ {-#3/63 0} 41. Rxe1 {0.00/1 0} fxe1=Q+ {
-#2/63 0} 42. Kd3 {0.00/1 0} Re3# {-#1/63 0 Checkmate !!} 0-1
[White "Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov"]
[Black "Rybka 1.0 Beta 32-bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
e5 {0.03/12 18} 2. Nf3 {0.28/12 5} Nc6 {0.04/11 4} 3. Bb5 {0.45/12 8} Nf6 {
0.05/11 6} 4. O-O {0.32/12 8} Bc5 {0.03/11 8} 5. c3 {0.36/12 8} Be7 {0.15/10 8}
6. d4 {0.31/12 12} O-O {0.14/11 13} 7. d5 {0.45/13 5} Nb8 {0.17/11 5} 8. Nxe5 {
0.45/11 8} d6 {0.25/11 14} 9. Nf3 {0.57/13 8} c6 {0.28/11 12} 10. Bd3 {
0.74/12 8} Nbd7 {0.28/10 5} 11. c4 {0.89/12 4} Nc5 {0.30/9 1} 12. Nc3 {
0.87/11 5} cxd5 {0.36/10 7} 13. exd5 {0.95/11 8} Bd7 {0.39/10 4} 14. Bc2 {
1.17/13 8} Re8 {0.35/10 6} 15. a3 {1.24/12 8} Qc7 {0.45/11 10} 16. b4 {
1.37/12 5} Na6 {0.50/10 1} 17. Bd3 {1.55/11 8} Qd8 {0.59/9 5} 18. Re1 {
1.75/12 7} Nc7 {0.89/10 17} 19. Qc2 {1.65/11 8} h6 {0.77/9 3} 20. Nd4 {
1.64/11 8} a5 {1.13/10 6} 21. Bd2 {1.66/11 5} axb4 {1.13/10 7} 22. axb4 {
1.36/11 5} Na6 {1.46/10 5} 23. Ncb5 {1.72/11 6} Qb6 {1.55/10 7} 24. h3 {
1.98/10 8} Kh8 {1.56/9 6} 25. Qb2 {2.32/11 8} Kg8 {1.92/9 7} 26. Be3 {2.60/12 8
} Qd8 {2.33/10 4} 27. Nf5 {2.19/11 10} Bxf5 {1.91/11 6} 28. Bxf5 {2.47/12 6}
Nd7 {2.12/11 9} 29. Bd4 {2.94/12 5} g6 {2.12/11 6} 30. Qc3 {2.63/12 10} h5 {
2.15/10 7} 31. Bc2 {2.89/11 6} h4 {2.76/11 24} 32. f4 {2.89/11 7} Bf8 {
3.08/10 12} 33. Rxe8 {4.10/12 7} Qxe8 {3.33/11 1} 34. Re1 {4.12/13 8} Qd8 {
3.24/12 6} 35. Bxg6 {4.57/12 7} fxg6 {4.15/11 13} 36. Re6 {5.09/12 7} Nc7 {
4.22/9 6} 37. Rxg6+ {5.29/10 7} Kf7 {4.27/10 4} 38. Qf3 {5.77/10 7} Kxg6 {
4.68/9 9} 39. Qg4+ {7.57/10 7} Kf7 {4.74/10 3} 40. Qh5+ {7.53/10 7} Ke7 {
4.13/10 7} 41. Qxh4+ {6.64/11 21} Ke8 {4.72/10 9} 42. Qh5+ {6.64/10 7} Ke7 {
4.72/10 0} 43. Qh7+ {6.31/10 7} Ke8 {5.13/11 6} 44. Qg6+ {6.52/10 7} Ke7 {
5.13/11 0} 45. c5 {6.74/11 5} Nxc5 {5.17/11 5} 46. Qh7+ {6.54/11 7} Ke8 {
4.94/12 4} 47. Nxc7+ {6.64/11 1} Qxc7 {4.94/12 0} 48. Qxc7 {7.70/12 4} Nd7 {
4.94/15 5} 49. h4 {8.17/12 4} Be7 {4.97/13 4} 50. h5 {8.22/13 7} Nf8 {7.25/13 6
} 51. h6 {10.12/11 7} Rd8 {8.72/13 6} 52. Qc2 {11.73/13 5} Rd7 {10.43/16 14}
53. h7 {12.45/12 5} Nxh7 {12.52/18 20} 54. Qxh7 {12.45/12 7} Rc7 {12.00/14 15}
55. f5 {12.96/11 7} Rc1+ {12.00/12 7} 56. Kf2 {16.78/12 7} Rc2+ {15.81/11 6}
57. Kg3 {21.28/13 4} Kd7 {25.79/12 7} 58. f6 {21.28/11 7} Re2 {320.00/11 0} 59.
Kf3 {#8/11 6} Re1 {320.00/9 0} 60. Kf2 {#7/11 6} Rd1 {0.00/1 0} 61. Qxe7+ {
#5/51 4} Kc8 {0.00/1 0} 62. f7 {#4/63 0} Rd2+ {0.00/1 0} 63. Ke3 {#3/63 0} Rf2
{0.00/1 0} 64. Kxf2 {#2/63 0} b5 {0.00/1 0} 65. f8=Q# {#1/63 0 Checkmate !!}
1-0
[White "Fruit 2.3.1"]
[Black "Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov"]
[Result "0-1"]
d5 {0.31/13 8} 2. d4 {0.22/14 6} Nf6 {0.19/13 8} 3. Nf3 {0.18/14 17} e6 {
0.22/13 6} 4. e3 {0.17/14 8} Bb4 {0.13/13 5} 5. Bd2 {0.06/13 8} O-O {0.15/13 5}
6. Bd3 {0.21/13 5} Nc6 {0.29/13 15} 7. O-O {0.25/13 7} Bd7 {0.19/12 7} 8. Re1 {
0.28/12 8} Bd6 {0.16/12 7} 9. e4 {0.56/13 9} Nxe4 {0.17/11 8} 10. Nxe4 {
0.36/12 6} dxe4 {0.24/13 7} 11. Bxe4 {0.43/14 10} f5 {0.26/14 13} 12. Bd3 {
0.46/14 7} Qf6 {0.26/12 8} 13. Bc3 {0.64/13 12} Qg6 {0.37/12 6} 14. Bc4 {
0.69/13 5} a6 {0.32/12 6} 15. d5 {0.59/13 11} exd5 {0.33/11 8} 16. Qxd5+ {
0.56/13 7} Kh8 {0.33/13 5} 17. Rad1 {0.60/13 11} Rad8 {0.27/11 5} 18. g3 {
0.45/11 9} b5 {0.00/11 10} 19. Bf1 {0.38/12 6} Rfe8 {0.27/11 14} 20. a4 {
0.60/12 7} b4 {0.20/11 7} 21. Bd2 {0.95/12 6} Ne7 {0.57/12 11} 22. Qb3 {
0.85/13 7} f4 {0.42/11 7} 23. Bxb4 {0.46/12 9} Rb8 {-0.41/11 5} 24. Rxe7 {
0.40/12 18} Rxe7 {-0.35/11 6} 25. Bxd6 {0.01/15 8} Rxb3 {-0.83/12 7} 26. Bxe7 {
0.12/14 1} Rxf3 {-0.75/13 7} 27. Rxd7 {-0.22/13 1} h6 {-0.77/14 5} 28. Be2 {
-0.59/14 5} Qe4 {-0.91/13 5} 29. Bxf3 {-0.68/15 6} Qxf3 {-0.87/13 3} 30. Bb4 {
-0.86/16 10} fxg3 {-0.91/13 7} 31. hxg3 {-0.57/16 7} Qg4 {-0.91/14 7} 32. Rd8+
{-0.63/16 2} Kh7 {-0.75/4 0} 33. c3 {-0.63/16 9} Qe2 {-0.81/15 7} 34. Rd7 {
-0.83/17 4} Qe1+ {-0.73/15 6} 35. Kg2 {-0.77/18 4} c5 {-0.68/16 7} 36. Ba3 {
-0.55/17 9} Qe4+ {-0.69/15 6} 37. Kg1 {-0.53/17 4} Qc6 {-0.68/15 6} 38. Re7 {
-0.50/17 5} Qd6 {-0.65/14 8} 39. Re4 {-0.54/17 9} Qd1+ {-0.74/15 8} 40. Kg2 {
-0.72/17 4} Qd5 {-0.75/15 8} 41. f3 {-0.74/17 5} Qd2+ {-0.83/15 6} 42. Kf1 {
-0.63/16 5} c4 {-0.85/15 8} 43. g4 {-0.76/15 8} Qd1+ {-0.90/14 5} 44. Kf2 {
-0.86/16 6} Qxa4 {-0.90/14 5} 45. Ke3 {-0.87/16 8} g5 {-1.00/13 9} 46. Re7+ {
-0.86/16 7} Kg6 {-1.01/15 7} 47. Re6+ {-0.88/17 5} Kg7 {-0.93/15 5} 48. Kf2 {
-0.85/18 6} Qb5 {-0.93/16 4} 49. Kg2 {-0.84/19 7} a5 {-0.95/16 5} 50. Kf2 {
-0.84/19 7} Qb8 {-0.93/16 8} 51. Kg2 {-0.84/19 8} Qc8 {-0.94/15 8} 52. Re7+ {
-0.82/18 5} Kg6 {-0.94/16 6} 53. Ra7 {-0.82/17 9} h5 {-0.94/14 8} 54. gxh5+ {
-0.83/16 5} Kxh5 {-0.93/15 6} 55. Rxa5 {-0.87/18 5} Kh4 {-0.94/16 19} 56. Kf2 {
-0.77/16 4} Qc7 {-1.18/15 7} 57. Rf5 {-1.18/16 6} Qb6+ {-1.58/14 4} 58. Kf1 {
-1.47/18 6} Qg6 {-1.57/16 8} 59. Rf8 {-1.73/18 5} Qd3+ {-1.67/15 7} 60. Ke1 {
-1.83/20 8} Kg3 {-1.92/15 7} 61. Bb4 {-1.83/19 8} Kg2 {-2.25/15 6} 62. Ba3 {
-1.83/17 9} Qc2 {-2.50/14 5} 63. Re8 {-2.38/16 4} Kxf3 {-2.61/14 5} 64. Rf8+ {
-2.47/16 2} Kg3 {-2.76/15 7} 65. Re8 {-2.72/18 10} g4 {-2.76/13 7} 66. Rf8 {
-3.06/18 16} Kg2 {-3.34/14 7} 67. Re8 {-3.40/17 5} Qf2+ {-3.34/12 7} 68. Kd1 {
-2.23/4 0} g3 {-3.89/13 7} 69. Re5 {-5.73/16 17} Qf3+ {-6.27/15 7} 70. Kc2 {
-6.15/18 5} Qf4 {-6.32/15 5} 71. Re7 {-6.24/18 5} Kf3 {-6.41/16 8} 72. Rg7 {
-6.25/18 4} g2 {-6.41/15 8} 73. Kb1 {-8.88/21 24} Qe3 {-6.41/14 7} 74. Rxg2 {
-9.66/18 7} Kxg2 {-7.92/13 7} 75. Ka2 {-10.34/19 5} Kf3 {-9.33/14 7} 76. b3 {
-#8/18 8} Qxc3 {-#8/12 4 Mate in -7 !!} 0-1
I've only played 12 games. With the few free CPU time I have, my tourney probably is going to end after all the other clone tourneys


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Re: The Clone Tournament
I have not played any Frenzee games so it's not late to use Frenzee Feb08. Here's the new logo:David Dahlem wrote:I don't have Frenzee-Dec07 so i'm using Frenzee-Feb08.

Thank you!Eelco de Groot wrote:Nice logo Ulysses! And nice tournament!
Eelco
That's why I created them! So I'm glad they're being usedgeots wrote:I grabbed a few of these logos for my personal use. Hope you dont mind![]()

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Re: The Clone Tournament
Ovyron wrote:I blame the compile! Here's some sneak preview of Toga games on my computer:Spock wrote:Hmm... Toga is not doing that well
I agree. I'm considering restarting the tourney with a different build.
What's the best way to compare speed of different compiles? I'm not too familiar with testing uci engine speed without bench tests.
And what are the different builds of TogaII_3.1.2SE available?
Regards
Dave
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Re: The Clone Tournament
I think that running the different compiles on the starting positions and comparing their nodes per second after a certain ply is a good way to measure their speed (all things being equal.)David Dahlem wrote:What's the best way to compare speed of different compiles?
On the Toga you downloaded, you should have:David Dahlem wrote:And what are the different builds of TogaII_3.1.2SE available?
TogaIIv3.1.2SE_P4_SSE2.exe
And there's a folder named "Additional Compiles by Denis Mendoza" (You need to unz7 it, tell me if you have problems doing it) with:
Toga_II_3.1.2SEp3.exe
and
Toga_II_3.1.2SEp4.exe
(These later compiles are only needed if the first one doesn't run on your computer)
And finally:
Toga Chekov by Denis P. Mendoza
However, I'd just suggest to trust the GUI on changing the settings, since that guarantees that you'll have the highest speed (I think.)
Have fun.