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Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer game:
[d]5r2/6P1/8/8/2P5/1P6/2K1p3/4k3 w - - acd 20/30+; acn 4783893; acs 9; bm gxf8=B; ce 32468; pv gxf8=B Kf2;
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
Another:
[d]6r1/5P2/8/4KN1k/8/8/8/8 w - - acd 4/4; acn 160; acs 0; bm fxg8=B; ce 32722; pv fxg8=B;
[d]6r1/5P2/8/4KN1k/8/8/8/8 w - - acd 4/4; acn 160; acs 0; bm fxg8=B; ce 32722; pv fxg8=B;
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
Another:
[d]6r1/k6P/P3R3/8/6p1/6K1/8/8 w - - acd 17/28; acn 36701781; acs 23; bm hxg8=B; ce 32758; pv hxg8=B Kb8 Re7 Kc8 a7 Kd8 Rb7 Kc8 a8=Q#;
[d]6r1/k6P/P3R3/8/6p1/6K1/8/8 w - - acd 17/28; acn 36701781; acs 23; bm hxg8=B; ce 32758; pv hxg8=B Kb8 Re7 Kc8 a7 Kd8 Rb7 Kc8 a8=Q#;
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
Another:
[d]8/4R2P/5pk1/5p2/5P2/7K/7N/6q1 w - - acd 19/43; acn 98710030; acs 24; bm h8=B; ce 3; pv h8=B Qf2 Rg7+ Kh5 Rg3 Qxf4 Bxf6 Qh6 Bd4 f4 Rc3 Kg6+ Kg2;
[d]8/4R2P/5pk1/5p2/5P2/7K/7N/6q1 w - - acd 19/43; acn 98710030; acs 24; bm h8=B; ce 3; pv h8=B Qf2 Rg7+ Kh5 Rg3 Qxf4 Bxf6 Qh6 Bd4 f4 Rc3 Kg6+ Kg2;
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
Another:
[d]8/PQ4pk/5p1p/5P1P/r4PK1/4qB2/4N3/8 w - - acd 19/40; acn 85802882; acs 25; bm a8=B; ce 501; pv a8=B Ra2 Ng3 Qe8 Qe4 Qf8 Bc6 Rb2 Qe8 Qxe8 Bxe8 Kg8 Bd7;
[d]8/PQ4pk/5p1p/5P1P/r4PK1/4qB2/4N3/8 w - - acd 19/40; acn 85802882; acs 25; bm a8=B; ce 501; pv a8=B Ra2 Ng3 Qe8 Qe4 Qf8 Bc6 Rb2 Qe8 Qxe8 Bxe8 Kg8 Bd7;
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
In most of the diagrams there is an alternative win that is not by bishop underpromotion.
You can analyze the position with rybka and only in 2 of them she does not see a clear advantage.
It may be interesting to see the relevant computer game for the following diagrams
[d]5r2/6P1/8/8/2P5/1P6/2K1p3/4k3 w - - 0 1
[d]8/4R2P/5pk1/5p2/5P2/7K/7N/6q1 w - - 0 1
Maybe white could win earlier without a bishop underpromotion and simply prefered to get position when the only way to win is with a bishop underpromotion.
Uri
You can analyze the position with rybka and only in 2 of them she does not see a clear advantage.
It may be interesting to see the relevant computer game for the following diagrams
[d]5r2/6P1/8/8/2P5/1P6/2K1p3/4k3 w - - 0 1
[d]8/4R2P/5pk1/5p2/5P2/7K/7N/6q1 w - - 0 1
Maybe white could win earlier without a bishop underpromotion and simply prefered to get position when the only way to win is with a bishop underpromotion.
Uri
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
More subtle than the rest; Symbolic says:Dann Corbit wrote: [d]8/PQ4pk/5p1p/5P1P/r4PK1/4qB2/4N3/8 w - - acd 19/40; acn 85802882; acs 25; bm a8=B; ce 501; pv a8=B Ra2 Ng3 Qe8 Qe4 Qf8 Bc6 Rb2 Qe8 Qxe8 Bxe8 Kg8 Bd7;
PV: 1. a8=B Ra2 2. Qb5 Qe7 3. Bad5 Rd2 4. Qa6 Qe8 5. Ng3 Rb2 6. Ne4 Qf8 7. Qd6 Qxd6 8. Nxd6 Rd2 9. Nf7 Rb2 Score: +4.068
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Steven, do you have plans to release Symbolic? I guess it would be an interesting program to play and analyse with.
Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
OMG! I never thought about the positions you have shown!
I see that my assumption of allowing my program to only promote to a queen or knight is an error! I thought that sometimes a night promotion may sometimes be required so I allow that. But not a bishop or rook.
As a player with my program I allow a promotion to any piece.
Looks like I need to allow a bishop as an under promotion as well. Is there a position which promoting to a rook is required or can I leave the rook out?
I see that my assumption of allowing my program to only promote to a queen or knight is an error! I thought that sometimes a night promotion may sometimes be required so I allow that. But not a bishop or rook.
As a player with my program I allow a promotion to any piece.
Looks like I need to allow a bishop as an under promotion as well. Is there a position which promoting to a rook is required or can I leave the rook out?
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Re: Necessary promotion to bishop from an actual computer ga
A few more:
[d]6r1/7P/1R6/5k2/8/4R1K1/8/8 w - - acd 20/20; acn 44329606; acs 20; bm hxg8=B; ce 32764; pv hxg8=B;
[d]6r1/7P/1R6/5k2/8/4R1K1/8/8 w - - acd 20/20; acn 44329606; acs 20; bm hxg8=B; ce 32764; pv hxg8=B;