Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

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Who is stronger? Computer or Humans? How much?

Poll ended at Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:19 pm

Computer +500 elo
16
30%
Computer 301-500elo
15
28%
Computer 101-300 elo
18
34%
Computer 1-100 elo
2
4%
Equality
1
2%
Human 101-300 elo
0
No votes
Human 301-500 elo
0
No votes
Human +500 elo
1
2%
 
Total votes: 53

mwyoung
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Re: Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

Post by mwyoung »

Graham Banks wrote:
Uri wrote:.........chess engines clearly don't stand a chance against human Grandmasters...........
Incorrect.
Just ask Carlsen, Anand and other legitimately qualified super-GMs.
I don't understand people on this forum. That continue to play the self delusion game on so many subjects. This is not even a debatable subject. For many years now.

" chess engines clearly don't stand a chance against human Grandmasters"

How about this oldie but goodie GM vs Computer game from 1994.

This alone shows the above quote to be clearly false, and many more wins by computers came after this against top GM players. I made this video for the self delusional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA6Dz-1 ... 2SzXhMEOJA
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Guenther
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Re: Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

Post by Guenther »

mwyoung wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Uri wrote:.........chess engines clearly don't stand a chance against human Grandmasters...........
Incorrect.
Just ask Carlsen, Anand and other legitimately qualified super-GMs.
I don't understand people on this forum. That continue to play the self delusion game on so many subjects. This is not even a debatable subject. For many years now.

" chess engines clearly don't stand a chance against human Grandmasters"

How about this oldie but goodie GM vs Computer game from 1994.

This alone shows the above quote to be clearly false, and many more wins by computers came after this against top GM players. I made this video for the self delusional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA6Dz-1 ... 2SzXhMEOJA
Your quote from a quote above from an old post is very misleading and disturbing because newer or uninformed members could get the impression you quote Uri Blass.
Actually that 'Uri' was Uri Zlatnik which had some trollish behaviour sometimes and had left since long at least it appears that way.

The whole thread should have been locked anyway or restarted under a new title because it was abused for a private question for a long gone member 2 years after the thread was started.
A mail or PM would have been appropriate.
Does anybody know where Eduard Nemeth is ? Thanks in advance(Pablo I. Restrepo)
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Re: Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Guenther wrote:
The whole thread should have been locked anyway or restarted under a new title because it was abused for a private question for a long gone member 2 years after the thread was started.
A mail or PM would have been appropriate.
Does anybody know where Eduard Nemeth is ? Thanks in advance(Pablo I. Restrepo)
Guenther
Actually the original main thread is here (it is not needed to be restarted):
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... at&start=0

Maurizio cloned my thread :)

Another joke is that he set many options, LOL ...
Equality
1%
1% [ 1 ]
Human 1-100 elo
3%
3% [ 2 ]
Human 101-300 elo
0%
0% [ 0 ]
Human 301-500 elo
0%
0% [ 0 ]
Human +500 elo
Sedat Canbaz
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Re: Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

Post by Sedat Canbaz »

Btw, unfortunately the majority of the people still believe :

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rabbits
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Re: Who is stronger at chess? Computers or Humans?

Post by rabbits »

Good one Andrew!
Allan