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Re: TCEC 10

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Dan Cooper wrote:
JJJ wrote:So I was right to hope for a Houdini / Komodo final this time. Now I would bet than Houdini is the slighty favorite here and says he will win with 52%.
I think contempt helped Komodo a lot but might be a little less strong in head to head, even if Houdini is not update. But I might be wrong if the next Komodo has won some more elo.
They announced a Houdini update in chat.
If so, I hope it will be a free upgrade for us H6 customers :)
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Stockfish is first engine, which goes WHOLE season UNBEATEN!! No word on that in chessdom page? In final Houdini is clear favorite. Komodo's win in stage 2 was position, which happens once in 1000 games.
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JJJ wrote:Now I would bet than Houdini is the slighty favorite here and says he will win with 52%.
+1. More than a slight favorite. These Long Games really suit Houdini and it is inherently the more aggressive Engine, updated or not.
Komodo, no doubt good, seems to get lost sometimes.
So, I confidently predict a Houdini win, but let's see.....
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cc2150dx wrote:
Dan Cooper wrote: They announced a Houdini update in chat.
If so, I hope it will be a free upgrade for us H6 customers :)
It is, and Houdini 6.03 is already available to you - you can use the same download link we sent you by e-mail, it now refers to the updated version.

Houdini 6.03 corrects a stalemate bug which was reported to me this weekend. It occurs when there are white pawn captures available, for example this position:
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abcdefgh

8/3R1pk1/5p1p/5PbK/B2p2PP/3P4/1r6/8 w - - 0 1

Try this position with the previous Houdini 6, set multi-PV to 4. You will get some surprising results :).

The error was already present in Houdini 5, but apparently nobody has ever noticed it.

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Thanks Robert!
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Jouni wrote:Stockfish is first engine, which goes WHOLE season UNBEATEN!! No word on that in chessdom page?
Let's compare.

Komodo goes undefeated in the chess.com speed championship but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported in the chess.com website. No one cares.

Stockfish goes undefeated in TCEC but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported on the chessdom.com website. People freak out.
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Dan Cooper wrote:
Jouni wrote:Stockfish is first engine, which goes WHOLE season UNBEATEN!! No word on that in chessdom page?
Let's compare.

Komodo goes undefeated in the chess.com speed championship but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported in the chess.com website. No one cares.

Stockfish goes undefeated in TCEC but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported on the chessdom.com website. People freak out.
I don't get it either, GM Anish Giri has gone undefeated in several events but still did not win them. Is there something about Stockfish that makes it a special case?
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Dan Cooper wrote:
Jouni wrote:Stockfish is first engine, which goes WHOLE season UNBEATEN!! No word on that in chessdom page?
Let's compare.

Komodo goes undefeated in the chess.com speed championship but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported in the chess.com website. No one cares.

Stockfish goes undefeated in TCEC but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported on the chessdom.com website. People freak out.
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Back in the 1950's, the American sports league NFL, ignored draws. Until they ran into a situation like this (exaggerated for emphasis):
One team had 9 wins and 1 loss, another team had 1 win and 9 draws. The first team had 90% success but the second team had 100% success. Thereafter draws counted as 1/2 win, 1/2 loss.
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Dan Cooper wrote:
Jouni wrote:Stockfish is first engine, which goes WHOLE season UNBEATEN!! No word on that in chessdom page?
Let's compare.

Komodo goes undefeated in the chess.com speed championship but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported in the chess.com website. No one cares.

Stockfish goes undefeated in TCEC but misses qualifying for the final by .5 points. This goes unreported on the chessdom.com website. People freak out.
+1
The contempt that made Stockfish remain unbeaten was the same that did not allow him to add the necessary points. Surely with the right contempt Komodo and Houdini would also be unbeaten.