Komodo 8 Announcement

[Sedat Canbaz]

I don't like ...

1. To give persons free versions to make publicity. We have a small community and I can't see that we have privileged classes of users. A good publicity for a new version is very easy to do in self work.

2. To give information how strong is the engine and to compare Komodo with Clones or with the great Stockfish developement.

3. With Abandon ... means the development ... in my opinion with such things ... that is history!

Sorry!

Best
Frank

Very good points Frank, this is really a big injustice...double standard !!

And to be honest,
This is one of the main reasons why I stopped to buy any more commercial programs

It makes me feel that we are amateurs the others are professional...
But in reality...really I wonder who is... ?!)

One thing more,
You are the father of all testers, and if anybody will get....
You should be the first and you fully deserve free copies or special bonus...!!

Best,
Sedat

[Modern Times]

What the community do with cloens!
In Computer Chess we celebrate clones!

Ugh, yuck!

Best
Frank

And a Commercial programmer gave the Information ... we are better as a clone in Elo ... normaly we should no speak about it. We give more and more clones a platform. A helper / programmer "Larry Kaufmann" with gave so many Information what he do for Rybka celebrate the copy of it own work with a comment ... we are better as Houdini. With other word, Larry is better as Larry? Perhaps Larry is now a Partner of ChessBase and of Houdini? Times changed!

What for a Nonsens in my opinion ... but perhaps I don't understand the World. Perhaps a Person can explain me the situation? I am new in computerchess without any Information about it ... please explain me the situation in easy English!

I regard Rybka and Houdini no differently from Komodo, Hiarcs, Shredder etc. All are legitimate engines and all have the right to exist.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Sedat,

I gave so many time for computer chess, example arena development. A software most commercials that don't have an own GUI made own publicity with my ideas I gave to martin and my work I do in the past. That is OK for me.

I have no Problem to pay for software.
I pay for Junior, Hiarcs, for Shredder, for Chiron, for Komodo ... for each what I am using ... I pay for it ... for myself OK, for TuneUp for the security, each Software I am using I have in original. I gave my money for the programmers ... for the people which do such a work I do so many years too.

I am very honest in such Points, not in all to other topics

That isn't the problem!
I will not have anything for nothing.
And I am also not a priveleged VIP for anything.

But I am not happy with the good old style of commercial marketing. Have a look "Bundesanzeiger" how strong german chess companies are (sales). Compare it with other Little IT-Companies ...

You can see ...
We have a very small community or people with interest on chess software. In the past we have here much more interest and possibilities.

And that what we have today we should cherish.

The good and old commercial news ...
New version of engine X is available ... best program ... better as the clones, better as x ... look in the results of beta testers. That is so old ... today more or less a boring info.

If a new Version of an interesting program will be available we have other possibilities to give persons with interest better information as this one.

But OK ...
It's not my business!

But I wish me as customer a little bit more and better information! Larry is GM ... a grandmaster should be give us better information in detail with examples as information look in the rating list X ... all clones are in this list available ... and Komodo is 40 ELO stronger.

I dislike such things!

Best
Frank

[carldaman]

Komodo 8 will be released within the next two weeks, both by ChessBase and on komodochess.com. They will have the same engine, but the ChessBase version will include their own GUI and their own opening book, plus PlayChess membership. Our release will include Windows 64 bit and 32 bit versions plus Mac and Linux versions. We anticipate that our price will remain the same as for Komodo 7, and that Komodo 7 purchasers will get the same discount as Komodo 6 purchasers received when buying Komodo 7. Our exact release date is not yet decided but we will post an announcement here when it is.

Hi Larry,
Surely you must've meant Komodo TCEC customers receiving a discount when buying v7.

Regards,
CL

[Frank Quisinsky]

Read Orgin Forum ...

Fruit = Rybka ... Rybka = IPP, IPP = Houdini
No doubt about it.

Believe it or not ... but we should not start again a discuss about things which are absolutely clear.

Doch is a new program written by Don Daily.
Komodo is rewritten with parts Larry Kaufmann do.

Don Daily was able to create an really strong chess program. One of the programmers with the most knowlege about chess programming we have ... unfortunately had.

No doubt about it that Komodo is an own development.
But this isn't the topic.

Best
Frank

[Modern Times]

Read Orgin Forum ...

Fruit = Rybka ...

Not correct.

[reflectionofpower]

Hi,

sorry, big three are Stockfish, Komodo and GullChess.
Houdini is a copy of Robbolite and have nothing to search in the list of TOP-3.

Perhaps a Person can explain me the situation? I am new in computerchess without any Information about it ... please explain me the situation in easy English!

"It is what it is"

[Frank Quisinsky]

Proofs ...

I can see only clear proofs that Rybka = Fruit.
Sorry!

Ray, I like your Person and your Messages in the past ... read it often. Nothing again yourself but ...

Do you know what the community do with the work Fabian do!

WE all have Fabian shitty!
Thats is fact and we have to life with it ... all the users with buy Software under other names ... the work by the programmer from France.

How many persons merit money with the work the programmer from France do!

That is fact!
Sorry!!

Time to speak: Cleartext!

[Modern Times]

Sorry, but to say Rybka = Fruit is a wrong statement. That is a fact...

[Frank Quisinsky]

In your brain perhaps!

Again, each good programmer is able with time to make a program stronger ... good example the programmer of SmarThink.

It's not a wonder that Rybka is 200 ELO stronger as Fruit ...
That have nothing to do with the fact ... Rybka 1 = Fruit!