Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

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Who will be the winner?

HOUDINI
15
22%
STOCKFISH
54
78%
 
Total votes: 69

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RIDDICK
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by RIDDICK »

HOUDINI: 38.5/74 [ +009/=057/-006 ] - STOCKFISH: 35.5/74 [ +006/=057/-009 ]

[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.04"]
[Round "73"]
[White "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Black "STOCKFISH 020314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B85"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e6 7. O-O Be7 8. f4
O-O 9. Bf3 Re8 10. Be3 Qc7 11. Qd2 e5 12. Nde2 Be6 13. f5 Bc4 14. Rfe1 Nbd7 15.
Ng3 Bb5 16. Nd5 Nxd5 17. exd5 Nf6 18. Rac1 Rac8 19. c4 Bd7 20. a3 Rb8 21. Qd3
Rec8 22. Ne4 Qd8 23. b4 b6 24. Rf1 Nxe4 25. Bxe4 Bf6 26. g3 Be8 27. Rc3 Bd7 28.
h4 Rc7 29. Rfc1 Rcb7 30. c5 bxc5 31. bxc5 dxc5 32. Bxc5 Qa5 33. d6 Rb2 34. Bb4
Qb6+ 35. Rc5 h6 36. Qc3 Re2 37. Qf3 Rb2 38. Kh1 Kh7 39. Qd3 Rc8 40. Qd5 Rxc5
41. Qxc5 Qxc5 42. Rxc5 Bd8 43. f6+ Kg8 44. Bc6 Rb1+ 45. Kg2 Rb2+ 46. Kf3 Rb3+
47. Kf2 Be6 48. Ba4 Rd3 49. Rc6 gxf6 50. Bc2 Rd4 51. Rxa6 Kg7 52. Ke1 f5 53.
Bc3 Rd5 54. a4 f4 55. gxf4 Bxh4+ 56. Ke2 Rc5 57. Kd2 Be1+ 58. Kxe1 Rxc3 59. f5
Bd7 60. Kd2 Rc5 61. a5 h5 62. Be4 Kf6 63. Ke3 Rc3+ 64. Kf2 Rc4 65. Ra7 Rxe4 66.
Rxd7 Ra4 67. Ra7 Rf4+ 68. Kg2 Rd4 69. d7 Ke7 70. d8=Q+ Kxd8 71. Rxf7 Rg4+
1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.04"]
[Round "74"]
[White "STOCKFISH 020314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Black "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B85"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be2 e6 7. O-O Be7 8. f4
O-O 9. Bf3 Nc6 10. Be3 Qc7 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Na4 c5 13. c4 Bb7 14. Qc2 Rad8 15.
b3 Bc6 16. Nc3 d5 17. cxd5 exd5 18. Nxd5 Bxd5 19. exd5 Nxd5 20. Bxd5 Rxd5 21.
Qe2 a5 22. Rac1 Re8 23. Qb5 Rb8 24. Qc4 Qd6 25. h3 h5 26. Kh2 Rb4 27. Qc2 h4
28. a3 Rb8 29. Rf3 Qd7 30. Bf2 c4 31. bxc4 Rd2 32. Qc3 Bf6 33. Qxa5 Rbb2 34.
Qa7 Qf5 35. Kg1 g6 36. Kh1 Kg7 37. a4 Ra2 38. Qb6 Rdb2 39. Qa7 Re2 40. Rf1 Rec2
41. Qb7 Rxc4 42. Qb5 Qe4 43. Bg1 Rb4 44. Qd3 Qc6 45. Be3 Rbxa4 46. Rc1 Qb7 47.
Rd1 R4a3 48. Qd5 Qxd5 49. Rxd5 Re2 50. Bd2 Ra2 51. Rfd3 Ra1+ 52. Kh2 Rd1 53.
Rd7 Rf1 54. Re3 Ref2 55. Red3 Kg8 56. R7d6 Rb1 57. Be3 Re2 58. Bd2 Kg7 59. Re3
Rf2 60. Rf3 Rxf3 61. gxf3 Rb3 62. Kg2 Be7 63. Rd5 Kf6 64. Be1 Rb2+ 65. Kf1 Rb1
66. Ke2 Ke6 67. Re5+ Kd7 68. Re4 Rb5 69. Ra4 Rb2+ 70. Kf1 Rb3 71. Ra7+ Ke6 72.
Ra6+ Kd5 73. Ra7 Kd6 74. f5 gxf5 75. Ke2 Rb2+ 76. Kd3 Rb1 77. Ke2 Rb5 78. Ra6+
Ke5 79. Ra7 Bd6 80. Bxh4 Rb2+ 81. Kf1 Kf4 82. Rxf7 Kxf3 83. Rxf5+ Ke4 84. Be7
Rb1+ 85. Ke2 Bg3 86. Rg5 Rb2+ 87. Kd1 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by RIDDICK »

HOUDINI: 39.5/76 [ +009/=059/-006 ] - STOCKFISH: 36.5/76 [ +006/=059/-009 ]

[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.05"]
[Round "75"]
[White "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Black "STOCKFISH 030314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B73"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. Be2 Nc6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Re1 a6 10. h3 Re8 11. a4 Qc7 12. Qd2 Bd7 13. Nxc6 bxc6 14. Bc4 Qa5
15. Rab1 Qb4 16. Qd3 a5 17. Bd2 Qb8 18. Qf3 e5 19. b3 Be6 20. Bg5 Nd7 21. Bxe6
Rxe6 22. Rbd1 Bf6 23. Bc1 Bh4 24. Re2 Bd8 25. Nb1 Nf6 26. Na3 Qb4 27. Nc4 d5
28. exd5 e4 29. Qg3 Nxd5 30. Ree1 Bf6 31. h4 Rae8 32. h5 Bc3 33. Rf1 Qf8 34.
Qh3 Qg7 35. h6 Qf8 36. Ba3 Bb4 37. Bxb4 axb4 38. Rfe1 Qe7 39. Rd2 f5 40. Ne3
Qg5 41. Rd4 Qf6 42. Rd2 Re5 43. Rd4 Qf8 44. Nxd5 cxd5 45. f4 Qc5 46. Qe3 R5e7
47. Rc1 Rc8 48. Qd2 Rb8 49. Kh2 e3 50. Qd3 Rd8 51. Re1 Re4 52. Rxe4 fxe4 53.
Qxe3 Qxe3 54. Rxe3 Kf7 55. Re1 Ke6 56. a5 Kd6 57. a6 Kc5 58. a7 Ra8 59. Ra1 Kd4
1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.05"]
[Round "76"]
[White "STOCKFISH 030314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Black "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B73"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. Be2 Nc6 8.
O-O O-O 9. Re1 Bd7 10. h3 Rc8 11. Qd2 a6 12. Nf3 b5 13. a3 Qc7 14. Bg5 Be6 15.
Rad1 Qb7 16. Bh6 Rfe8 17. Qf4 Nd7 18. Bxg7 Kxg7 19. Ng5 Nf6 20. Qh4 Rf8 21. f4
h6 22. Nxe6+ fxe6 23. Qg3 e5 24. f5 g5 25. h4 Qa7+ 26. Kf1 Rh8 27. Bd3 Na5 28.
hxg5 hxg5 29. Qxg5+ Kf7 30. Qg6+ Kf8 31. g3 Rxc3 32. bxc3 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by RIDDICK »

Nice Houdini black-side victory in the 78th round! Stockfish risk too much and it's severely punished! Houdini is at +4 now!

Author: Ronald de Man
Date: Thu Mar 6 20:37:01 2014 +0100
Timestamp: 1394134621


HOUDINI: 41.0/78 [ +010/=060/-006 ] - STOCKFISH: 37.0/78 [ +006/=060/-010 ]

[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "77"]
[White "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Black "STOCKFISH 060314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "B88"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. Bc4 a6 7. a3 Be7 8. Ba2
O-O 9. Be3 Nc6 10. O-O Bd7 11. f4 Nxd4 12. Bxd4 Bc6 13. Qe2 b5 14. Rad1 Qc7 15.
Rd3 Qb7 16. Rg3 Kh8 17. Re1 Bd8 18. Rd1 a5 19. e5 dxe5 20. fxe5 Nd7 21. Qg4 g6
22. Re3 Rc8 23. Ne2 Be7 24. c3 b4 25. axb4 axb4 26. cxb4 Qxb4 27. Rh3 Rfd8 28.
Qf4 Nf8 29. Qxf7 Be8 30. Qf2 Rc2 31. Rb3 Qa5 32. Bb1 Rxe2 33. Qxe2 Ba4 34. Rbd3
Bxd1 35. Qxd1 Rxd4 36. Rxd4 Bc5 37. Kf1 Bxd4 38. Qxd4 Qa1 39. Qe4 Qxb2 40. Bd3
Nd7 41. Qh4 Qc1+ 42. Ke2 Qb2+ 43. Kf1 Qa1+ 44. Kf2 Qa7+ 45. Ke2 Qa5 46. Bxg6
Qxe5+ 47. Kf1 Qb5+ 48. Ke1 Qa5+ 49. Ke2 Qe5+ 50. Kf2 Qb2+ 1/2-1/2[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "HOUDINI vs STOCKFISH MATCH 2014"]
[Site "RIDDICK"]
[Date "2014.03.07"]
[Round "78"]
[White "STOCKFISH 060314 64 SSE4.2"]
[Black "HOUDINI 4 PRO X64"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B86"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. Bc4 a6 7. a3 Be7 8. Ba2
O-O 9. O-O b5 10. Be3 Qc7 11. g4 Bb7 12. f3 h6 13. Kh1 Nc6 14. g5 hxg5 15. Bxg5
g6 16. Rg1 Nxd4 17. Qxd4 Kg7 18. Rg2 Rh8 19. Rag1 Qc5 20. Qd2 Rag8 21. Be3 Qc8
22. Bb3 Rh4 23. Bg5 Rh5 24. Rg3 Rgh8 25. R1g2 Qd8 26. Kg1 Kf8 27. Kh1 Nd7 28.
Be3 Ne5 29. Qd1 Qc7 30. Bd4 Bf6 31. Qd2 R8h6 32. Ne2 Nxf3 33. Rxf3 Bxe4 34. Qf4
Bxf3 35. Qxf3 Rf5 36. Qd3 Bxd4 37. Nxd4 Rf6 38. c3 Qb7 39. h3 Rf2 40. Nxe6+
fxe6 41. Qxd6+ Kg7 42. Qd4+ Rf6 43. Bxe6 Rh8 44. Kg1 Re8 45. Qd7+ Qxd7 46. Bxd7
Re1+ 47. Kh2 Rd1 48. Bg4 Rd3 49. Re2 Rfd6 50. Kg2 Kf6 51. Bc8 Kg5 52. Kf2 Kf4
53. Bg4 Rd2 54. Ke1 Rxe2+ 0-1[/pgn]
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by Uri Blass »

RIDDICK wrote:It seems that Robert Houdart will release a new stronger version of Houdini at the 2nd or 3rd stage of TCEC (chatwing.com/tcec). If so, I hope I get the chance to test it in this match!
I hope that you test only public versions(versions that everybody can buy)

If Robert Houdart sell a new version of houdini and you test it during the match it is ok.

If he does not do it then I prefer to see the match continue between latest stockfish that is always available to everyone and houdini4.
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

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Uri Blass wrote:I hope that you test only public versions(versions that everybody can buy)

If Robert Houdart sell a new version of houdini and you test it during the match it is ok.

If he does not do it then I prefer to see the match continue between latest stockfish that is always available to everyone and houdini4.
I'm sorry but it's not fair. Stockfish is continually updated, why Houdini should remain the same? Even Martin Thoresen in the TCEC tournament follows the same criteria... What's the problem?
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

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Adam Hair wrote:[MODERATION]

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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by Adam Hair »

RIDDICK wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I hope that you test only public versions(versions that everybody can buy)

If Robert Houdart sell a new version of houdini and you test it during the match it is ok.

If he does not do it then I prefer to see the match continue between latest stockfish that is always available to everyone and houdini4.
I'm sorry but it's not fair. Stockfish is continually updated, why Houdini should remain the same? Even Martin Thoresen in the TCEC tournament follows the same criteria... What's the problem?
There should be no problem. It is your match and your rules. Since you have been updating Stockfish during the match, I see nothing wrong in including an incremental update of Houdini if Robert chooses to send it to you.
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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

Post by Guenther »

RIDDICK wrote:
Uri Blass wrote:I hope that you test only public versions(versions that everybody can buy)

If Robert Houdart sell a new version of houdini and you test it during the match it is ok.

If he does not do it then I prefer to see the match continue between latest stockfish that is always available to everyone and houdini4.
I'm sorry but it's not fair. Stockfish is continually updated, why Houdini should remain the same? Even Martin Thoresen in the TCEC tournament follows the same criteria... What's the problem?
The problem is you don't update the pgn headers respectively.
Please name them with their timestamps at least(or internal version number if there is one)
Currently it looks as one entity is always playing.

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Re: Houdini vs Stockfish Match 2014

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Adam Hair wrote:There should be no problem. It is your match and your rules. Since you have been updating Stockfish during the match, I see nothing wrong in including an incremental update of Houdini if Robert chooses to send it to you.
Exactly. Also I'm not even sure Robert Houdart will send me this new Houdini version... I hope so! After all, a similar test should be of interest to him.