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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Hi again:
JuLieN wrote:I, by the way, don't like the fact that the championship is so short : clearly the players can't take much risks in such a short championship. IIRC, the Fischer/Spassky match had 24 games : it was better for the players and more exciting for the public.
There were also 24 arranged games in WCC 1990 (I mean, a much more recent WCC) of Kasparov and Karpov. It was a great era that I could not live. Going a little off topic (sorry), here is a very interesting video that I watched through Google Video few years ago, but it is now on Youtube:

Kasparov VS Karpov in Lyon 1990

I think that this video is well known in chess world, but I post the link here just in case someone has not seen it. Caution: the duration is over 2h45'! ;) It is better to watch it in a weekend.

Regards from Spain.

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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
A terrible blunder by Anand :shock:

Was he in time trouble already :!: :?:

By playing 28. Nf1 he simply saved the black king by stopping the white rock to position itself on h4 and....

Carlsen is the new world champion now and all he has to do is to take the safe track and make another boring draw,grab the title and go home to celebrate :D
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Terry McCracken wrote:
Kyodai wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink:
I guess that makes me and many of us here Living Fossils! :shock:
I strongly disagree :shock:


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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Kyodai wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink:
There have been some old men who maintained world topping strength, like Lasker, Reshevsky, Korchnoi and Tal.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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It was indeed a bad blunder.

But psychologically, it must have been very difficult for Anand. He had a significant attack built up, and then Carlsen neutralized everything and got serious counterplay. Computers don't have emotions or get tired or discouraged, but people do.

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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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mhull wrote:
Kyodai wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink:
There have been some old men who maintained world topping strength, like Lasker, Reshevsky, Korchnoi and Tal.
Tal didn't actually live to be that old.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Albert Silver wrote:
mhull wrote:
Kyodai wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink:
There have been some old men who maintained world topping strength, like Lasker, Reshevsky, Korchnoi and Tal.
Tal didn't actually live to be that old.
True, and died back in '92. He was 55 years of age. No, he was not an old man but a man in poor health. He suffered much throughout his career.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

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Albert Silver wrote:
mhull wrote:
Kyodai wrote:
Terry McCracken wrote:
Mike S. wrote:[pgn][Event "FWCM 2013"]
[Site "Chennai"]
[Date "2013.11.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Black "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "E25"]
[WhiteElo "2775"]
[BlackElo "2870"]
[PlyCount "56"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:900+30"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 d5 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 c5 7. cxd5 exd5 8.
e3 c4 9. Ne2 Nc6 10. g4 O-O 11. Bg2 Na5 12. O-O Nb3 13. Ra2 b5 14. Ng3 a5 15.
g5 Ne8 16. e4 Nxc1 17. Qxc1 Ra6 18. e5 Nc7 19. f4 b4 20. axb4 axb4 21. Rxa6
Nxa6 22. f5 b3 23. Qf4 Nc7 24. f6 g6 25. Qh4 Ne8 26. Qh6 b2 27. Rf4 b1=Q+ 28.
Nf1 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]

After a great kingside attack by Anand, 28.Nf1? instead of Bf1 suddenly lost the game. Carlsen will certainly make at least 0.5/3 in the remaining match games, thus becoming the new World Champion. And I am sure, Anand will remain the wonderful player that he is, on the highest level.
It is sad to see a player of Anand's calibre crash 'n' burn after such a strong attack.

Yes but we must remember that Anand is a very very old man - past

40 years of age no doubt... It's not so easy to play topchess then... :wink:
There have been some old men who maintained world topping strength, like Lasker, Reshevsky, Korchnoi and Tal.
Tal didn't actually live to be that old.
Yes, but when was the age Anand is now (and even later) I seem to recall that no world contender was safe sitting at his board.
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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Ajedrecista wrote:Hello again:
IGarcia wrote:Well, you have to add to your estimations the possibility of Carlsen dying in next hours before match definition. Very unlike, but I'm afraid its only Anand really possibility to keep the title. And still not sure what rules say in such extreme rare case.

Anand in press conference, for me, does not look angry as before, all opposite, probably a sign that he maybe has accepted the end as WCC.
Of course I was assuming a normal end of the championship: no sudden deaths, no kills, etc. Crossing fingers to not reach this extreme case of 10^(-7) probability or such... :)

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JuLieN wrote:Yep, if an and had played Bf1, Carlsen had only one move to draw the game : Qd1.
Sure, but this move should be very easy for Carlsen: I am an unrated player (but surely below 1800 Elo FIDE) and 28.- ..., Qd1 seeking 29.- Rh4, Qh5 was the only move that made sense for me without engine analysis, and it was instantly. Will not a 1000 to 1200 Elo player stronger than me see this move? ;)

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

To have seen that move when it was the only move that would draw is not that difficult, but to have seen that move 10 or 20 moves before and for Carlsen to have calmly played b3 when it looked like Anand's f5 was simply going to crush Carlsen off the board ... is more than phenomenal! Very few people would have the ability to play b3!! when it looked like the pawn storm would be devastating and that with the Knight out of play the least black should do is bring it back into defense. That took cold calculating prowess and a confidence in one's ability to see the fine thread that holds the game. Not enough people are giving Carlsen credit for having everything under control in the middle of an F5 tornado! It really looks like Carlsen defended perfectly and the only one that really had to be careful was Anand!
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Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

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M ANSARI wrote:
Ajedrecista wrote:Hello again:
IGarcia wrote:Well, you have to add to your estimations the possibility of Carlsen dying in next hours before match definition. Very unlike, but I'm afraid its only Anand really possibility to keep the title. And still not sure what rules say in such extreme rare case.

Anand in press conference, for me, does not look angry as before, all opposite, probably a sign that he maybe has accepted the end as WCC.
Of course I was assuming a normal end of the championship: no sudden deaths, no kills, etc. Crossing fingers to not reach this extreme case of 10^(-7) probability or such... :)

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JuLieN wrote:Yep, if an and had played Bf1, Carlsen had only one move to draw the game : Qd1.
Sure, but this move should be very easy for Carlsen: I am an unrated player (but surely below 1800 Elo FIDE) and 28.- ..., Qd1 seeking 29.- Rh4, Qh5 was the only move that made sense for me without engine analysis, and it was instantly. Will not a 1000 to 1200 Elo player stronger than me see this move? ;)

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

To have seen that move when it was the only move that would draw is not that difficult, but to have seen that move 10 or 20 moves before and for Carlsen to have calmly played b3 when it looked like Anand's f5 was simply going to crush Carlsen off the board ... is more than phenomenal! Very few people would have the ability to play b3!! when it looked like the pawn storm would be devastating and that with the Knight out of play the least black should do is bring it back into defense. That took cold calculating prowess and a confidence in one's ability to see the fine thread that holds the game. Not enough people are giving Carlsen credit for having everything under control in the middle of an F5 tornado! It really looks like Carlsen defended perfectly and the only one that really had to be careful was Anand!
Excellent observation! I concur. Anand has had his 15 min., it's Carlsen's time. This young man is brilliant and is to chess as Mozart is to music.
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