FIDE World Chess Championship thread

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderator: Ras

User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

jdart wrote:Very nice performance by Carlsen today.

I haven't had a chance to analyze the game but it is remarkable that Carlsen won the last Rook endgame with a pawn up, and won this one a pawn down, with Black! This is what he is crazy good at: squeezing out wins in the endgame. I agree Anand will have trouble unless he can get Carlsen into positions that are uncomfortable for him.

--Jon
Anand's problems were present way before the endgame as he misunderstood the the very concept of the Ruy Lopez Berlin Defence even before the early stages of the endgame....

It's obviously that Carlsen has done his homework perfectly and demonstrated to the whole world that being a Kasparov's pupil is not a fact to be underestimated even by a world champion 8-)

Faith makes things possible not easy regards,
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Daniel Shawul wrote:If you have to blame someone, blame the organizers who forced the press conference 1 minute after a tiring 4-hour game! Also the journalist was a Norwegian, who probably planned to get a reaction or two out of Anand for the morning papers. 'He fail right into my trap' thats what they said now but I didn't hear Carlsen say that. I root for Carlsen but even him seemed uncomfortable withe the line of questions.
This is torture and unhuman....

I do agree regards,
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
User avatar
Laskos
Posts: 10948
Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm
Full name: Kai Laskos

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by Laskos »

Ajedrecista wrote: +2 -0 =4 in favour of Carlsen looks like definitive in a match of 12 games. Running 1e+6 simulations again with the same parameters than other times:

Code: Select all

White advantage:              40.0 Elo.
Supposed rating difference:   47.0 Elo.

            1000000 simulations:

Carlsen wins:               963681
Anand wins:                   4994
Drawn matches:               31325

Approximated elapsed time:    2.92 seconds.
Supposing again 30% of chances for Carlsen in case of a drawn match: 96.3681% + 0.3*3.1325% = 97.30785% ~ 97.31%. I guess that you will obtain something near to 97%.

Viewing that 1e+6 simulations run so fast, let me try with 1e+7 simulations with the same parameters:

Code: Select all

White advantage:              40.0 Elo.
Supposed rating difference:   47.0 Elo.

           10000000 simulations:

Carlsen wins:              9637891
Anand wins:                  50768
Drawn matches:              311341

Approximated elapsed time:   32.24 seconds.
96.37891% + 0.3*3.11341% = 97.312933% ~ 97.31% after 1e+7 simulations. I am glad to see that my numbers do not oscillate so much with such large numbers. :)

------------------------

Now I think that the match is over in favour of Carlsen and the question could be the following: how many games will be played from now? Less than six? Of course I know that it is still too soon to proclaim Carlsen champion, but now I would put my money on him.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
I am getting 97%/3% too, and it's very normal, as we use very similar parameters.

The betters one hour after the win went nutty today, with almost 10% their margin, way too much to place bets. With these close to 100% odds it's hard to bet for a gain. Now I only see one house has 1/25 for Carlsen, which by our simulations should be 1/35. This house seems to have 94%/6%, with 2% to the house, a possibility to bet on Carlsen.

As of the game, this time I saw the decisive part, I wonder if Anand will be eager to enter in apparently equal (rook) endgames with Carlsen at all.
Top
User avatar
Dr.Wael Deeb
Posts: 9773
Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:44 pm
Location: Amman,Jordan

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Laskos wrote:
Ajedrecista wrote: +2 -0 =4 in favour of Carlsen looks like definitive in a match of 12 games. Running 1e+6 simulations again with the same parameters than other times:

Code: Select all

White advantage:              40.0 Elo.
Supposed rating difference:   47.0 Elo.

            1000000 simulations:

Carlsen wins:               963681
Anand wins:                   4994
Drawn matches:               31325

Approximated elapsed time:    2.92 seconds.
Supposing again 30% of chances for Carlsen in case of a drawn match: 96.3681% + 0.3*3.1325% = 97.30785% ~ 97.31%. I guess that you will obtain something near to 97%.

Viewing that 1e+6 simulations run so fast, let me try with 1e+7 simulations with the same parameters:

Code: Select all

White advantage:              40.0 Elo.
Supposed rating difference:   47.0 Elo.

           10000000 simulations:

Carlsen wins:              9637891
Anand wins:                  50768
Drawn matches:              311341

Approximated elapsed time:   32.24 seconds.
96.37891% + 0.3*3.11341% = 97.312933% ~ 97.31% after 1e+7 simulations. I am glad to see that my numbers do not oscillate so much with such large numbers. :)

------------------------

Now I think that the match is over in favour of Carlsen and the question could be the following: how many games will be played from now? Less than six? Of course I know that it is still too soon to proclaim Carlsen champion, but now I would put my money on him.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.
I am getting 97%/3% too, and it's very normal, as we use very similar parameters.

The betters one hour after the win went nutty today, with almost 10% their margin, way too much to place bets. With these close to 100% odds it's hard to bet for a gain. Now I only see one house has 1/25 for Carlsen, which by our simulations should be 1/35. This house seems to have 94%/6%, with 2% to the house, a possibility to bet on Carlsen.

As of the game, this time I saw the decisive part, I wonder if Anand will be eager to enter in apparently equal (rook) endgames with Carlsen at all.
Anand must stear his game toward opening systems which will make Carlsen feel uncomfortable to say the least....
Dr.D
_No one can hit as hard as life.But it ain’t about how hard you can hit.It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward.How much you can take and keep moving forward….
Top
User avatar
JuLieN
Posts: 2949
Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 12:16 pm
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Full name: Julien Marcel

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by JuLieN »

Magnus seems to have insisted a lot on endgames, during his preparation, according to his Facebook page:

Image

Image

And obviously it pays off. :)

BTW, can you solve his challenges ?

[d]4R3/3p4/8/p1k5/8/p3p3/2P1K3/8 w - - 0 1
White to move and win.
SF gives 0.00 without TB

[d]8/6p1/k1Pb4/8/7p/4K3/3B4/8 w - - 0 1
White to move and draw.
SF without TB gives -4.
Last edited by JuLieN on Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"The only good bug is a dead bug." (Don Dailey)
[Blog: http://tinyurl.com/predateur ] [Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/fbpredateur ] [MacEngines: http://tinyurl.com/macengines ]
Top
User avatar
JuLieN
Posts: 2949
Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 12:16 pm
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Full name: Julien Marcel

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by JuLieN »

Correction: in the first position, starting with depth 30, SF sees a white gain. (+4.92 at depth 32, +5.19 at D34, +5.23 at D35...)
Last edited by JuLieN on Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:44 pm, edited 2 times in total.
"The only good bug is a dead bug." (Don Dailey)
[Blog: http://tinyurl.com/predateur ] [Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/fbpredateur ] [MacEngines: http://tinyurl.com/macengines ]
Top
tmokonen
Posts: 1362
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:46 pm
Location: Kelowna
Full name: Tony Mokonen

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

Post by tmokonen »

Kyodai wrote: Different story - but regarding entertaining chess I recommend the EU-team ch played right now in Poland. Very interesting chess - here some links (Turkey beat Russia in round 2!!)

http://livechess.chessdom.com/site/ and ETCC

http://etcc2013.com/live-games/
Thank you for the heads up. I clicked on the ETCC live games link, and what do you know, a nice win by Aronian against Bacrot.
Top
Vinvin
Posts: 5297
Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:40 am
Full name: Vincent Lejeune

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by Vinvin »

JuLieN wrote: BTW, can you solve his challenges ?

[d]4R3/3p4/8/p1k5/8/p3p3/2P1K3/8 w - - 0 1
White to move and win.
SF gives 0.00 without TB

[d]8/6p1/k1Pb4/8/7p/4K3/3B4/8 w - - 0 1
White to move and draw.
SF without TB gives -4.
On my old AMD4200+ (2.2 Ghz) ; SF + Syzygy (6pcs)

1st position mate in 68 in 13 sec :

Analysis by Stockfish 131113 64:
...
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
² (0.28) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:05 1440kN, tb=20596
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
² (0.46) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:05 1445kN, tb=20637
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
± (0.73) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:05 1451kN, tb=20662
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
± (1.15) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:05 1461kN, tb=20828
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
+- (1.76) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:05 1471kN, tb=20900
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rxa1
+- (2.67) Profondeur: 25/29 00:00:06 1503kN, tb=21762
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 a3 15.Rd2 Rb2 16.Rd1 Rb3
+- (3.95) Profondeur: 25/32 00:00:06 1748kN, tb=25991
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Rd4+ Rb4 7.Te1 Rb3 8.Rd3 Rb2 9.Te7
+- (4.04) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1808kN, tb=27629
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Rd4+ Rb4 7.Te4 Rb3 8.Rd3 Rb2 9.Te1 Rb3 10.Tb1+ Ra4 11.c6
+- (4.12) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1836kN, tb=28245
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Rd4+ Rb4 7.Te4 Rb3 8.Rd3 Rb2 9.Te1 Rb3 10.Tb1+ Ra4 11.c6
+- (4.24) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1850kN, tb=28414
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Rd4+ Rb4 7.Te4 Rb3 8.Rd3 Rb2 9.Te1 Rb3 10.Tb1+ Ra4 11.c6
+- (4.42) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1862kN, tb=28516
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te1 a2 7.Th1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 a3 15.Rd2 Rb2 16.Rd1 d6
+- (4.69) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1902kN, tb=29550
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te1 Rb2 7.Te2+ Rb1 8.Te4 Rb2 9.Te1 Rb3 10.Tb1+ Ra4 11.Rc2 a2 12.Te1 Rb5 13.Ta1 Rc6 14.Txa2 Rxc5
+- (5.10) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1922kN, tb=29905
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a2 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 a3 15.Rd2 Rb2 16.Rd1 d6
+- (5.71) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1942kN, tb=30292
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a2 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 Ra3 15.c6 d5 16.c7
+- (6.63) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 1991kN, tb=31339
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a2 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 Ra3 15.c6 d5 16.c7
+- (8.00) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 2011kN, tb=31665
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a2 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 Ra3 15.c6 d5 16.c7
+- (10.05) Profondeur: 26/36 00:00:07 2026kN, tb=31892
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a2 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 Ra3 15.c6 d5 16.c7
+- (13.12) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:07 2050kN, tb=32412
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a4 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Rd2 Rb3 9.Tb1+ Rc4 10.c6 d5 11.c7 d4 12.c8D+ Rd5 13.Rd3 a2 14.Dc4+ Re5 15.Dxd4+ Rf5
+- (17.73) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2102kN, tb=33105
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a4 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Rd2 Rb3 9.Tb1+ Rc4 10.c6 d5 11.c7 d4 12.c8D+ Rd5 13.Rd3 a2 14.Dc4+ Re5 15.Dxd4+ Rf5
+- (24.65) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2117kN, tb=33293
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a4 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Rd2 Rb3 9.Tb1+ Rc4 10.c6 d5 11.c7 d4 12.c8D+ Rd5 13.Rd3 a2 14.Dc4+ Re5 15.Dxd4+ Rf5
+- (35.02) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2126kN, tb=33332
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 a4 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Rd2 Rb3 9.Tb1+ Rc4 10.c6 d5 11.c7 d4 12.c8D+ Rd5 13.Rd3 a2 14.Dc4+ Re5 15.Dxd4+ Rf5
+- (50.57) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2134kN, tb=33355
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 Rb4 7.Te1 Ra4 8.Th1 a2 9.Rc2 d5
+- (73.89) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2142kN, tb=33369
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 Rb3 6.Te2 Rb4 7.Te1 Ra4 8.Th1 a2 9.Rc2 d5 10.cxd6
+- (108.87) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:08 2149kN, tb=33378
1.Te4 Rb5 2.c4+ Rb4 3.c5+ Rb3 4.Txe3+ Rb2 5.Rd3 a2 6.Te2+ Rb3 7.Te1 Rb2 8.Ta1 Rb3 9.Rd2 Rb2 10.Rd1 Rb3 11.Rc1 a4 12.Rd2 Rb2 13.Rd1 Rb3 14.Rc1 a3 15.Rd1 Rb2 16.Rd2 Rb3
+- (#68) Profondeur: 26/37 00:00:13 3834kN, tb=139031


2nd position no draw : mate in 58 in 4 sec

Analysis by Stockfish 131113 64:
...
1.Fc3 h3 2.Rf2 g5 3.Ff6 g4 4.Fd8 Rb5
-+ (-2.84) Profondeur: 8/8 00:00:00 7kN, tb=76
1.Rf2 h3 2.Rg1 Rb6 3.Fc3 g5 4.Ff6 g4 5.c7 Rxc7
-+ (-4.02) Profondeur: 9/11 00:00:00 21kN, tb=502
1.Fc3 h3 2.Rf3 g5 3.Fd4 g4+ 4.Re2 Rb5 5.c7 Fxc7
-+ (-4.58) Profondeur: 10/13 00:00:00 37kN, tb=827
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 h2 3.Rg2 Fc7 4.Ff2 Rb5 5.Fe3 g6 6.Rh1 Fd6 7.c7 Fxc7
-+ (-2.50) Profondeur: 11/13 00:00:00 48kN, tb=1074
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 h2 3.Rg2 Fc7 4.Ff2 Rb5 5.Fe3 g6 6.Rh1 Fd6 7.c7 Fxc7
-+ (-2.50) Profondeur: 12/13 00:00:00 50kN, tb=1121
1.Fc3 h3 2.Rf2 g5 3.Ff6 g4 4.Fd8 g3+ 5.Re2 g2 6.Rf2 Fc5+ 7.Rf3 g1D 8.c7
-+ (-11.77) Profondeur: 13/19 00:00:01 166kN, tb=3510
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 Fc7 3.Fd4 g5 4.Ff2 g4+ 5.Re4 g3 6.Fd4 h2 7.Rd3 h1D 8.Rd2 Dd5
-+ (-14.92) Profondeur: 14/21 00:00:01 214kN, tb=4035
1.Fc3 h3 2.Rf2 g5 3.Ff6 g4 4.Fd8 g3+ 5.Re2 g2 6.Rf2 Fc5+ 7.Rf3 g1D 8.c7 Rb7 9.Re2 h2
-+ (-16.22) Profondeur: 15/21 00:00:01 287kN, tb=4868
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 Fc7 3.Fd4 g5 4.Ff6 g4+ 5.Re4 h2 6.Rd5 h1D+ 7.Rc5 Fd6+ 8.Rc4 Dxc6+
-+ (-#58) Profondeur: 16/27 00:00:04 659kN, tb=10326
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 Fc7 3.Fd4 g5 4.Ff6 g4+ 5.Re4 h2 6.Rd5 h1D+ 7.Rc5 Fd6+ 8.Rc4 Dxc6+
-+ (-#58) Profondeur: 17/27 00:00:05 694kN, tb=11333
1.Rf3 h3 2.Fe3 Fc7 3.Fd4 g5 4.Ff6 g4+ 5.Re4 h2 6.Rd5 h1D+ 7.Rc5 Fd6+ 8.Rc4 Dxc6+
-+ (-#58) Profondeur: 18/27 00:00:05 724kN, tb=12291
Top
User avatar
JuLieN
Posts: 2949
Joined: Mon May 05, 2008 12:16 pm
Location: Bordeaux (France)
Full name: Julien Marcel

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread.

Post by JuLieN »

Interesting result, Vincent! I've been running SF4 without TB for four hours and a half, now, with the following results currently :

Code: Select all

-5.48/43 1.Kf2 h3 2.Bh6 gxh6 3.Kg1 Bc7 4.Kh1 Kb5 5.Kg1 Kxc6 6.Kh1 Kb6 7.Kg1 h2+ 8.Kg2 h5 9.Kh1 Kc6 10.Kg2 Kb5 11.Kh1 Kb6 12.Kg2 Kb7 13.Kh1 Kc6
-77.09/43 1.Ke2 h3 2.c7 Kb7 3.Kf3 Bxc7 4.Kf2 Kc6 5.Bc1 g6 6.Kg1 Kd5 7.Kf1 Be5 8.Kg1 Ke4 9.Bg5 Kf5 10.Be7 Bf6 11.Bxf6 Kxf6 12.Kh2 Kg5 13.Kxh3 Kf4 14.Kg2 Kg4 15.Kf2 Kh3 16.Ke2 g5 17.Kd3 Kh2 18.Kc4 g4 19.Kb5 g3 20.Kb6 Kh3
-77.09/43 1.Kf3 h3 2.Be3 Be5 3.Ke4 Bb8 4.c7 Bxc7 5.Kf3 Kb5 6.Kf2 Kc6 7.Kg1 Kd5 8.Kf2 g6 9.Kg1 Ke6 10.Bg5 Be5 11.Kh1 Kd7 12.Bh6 Bc7 13.Be3 Kc6 14.Bd2 Kd5 15.Kg1 Kc6 16.Kh1
-77.09/43 1.Ke4 Kb6 2.Kf3 h3 3.Kf2 g6 4.c7 Bxc7 5.Bg5 Kb5 6.Bd2 Kc6 7.Bh6 Kd7 8.Bc1 Be5 9.Bg5 Kd6 10.Bh4 Ke6 11.Kf3 Kf5 12.Kf2 Bf6 13.Bxf6 Kxf6 14.Kg3 Kg5 15.Kxh3 Kf4 16.Kg2 Kg4 17.Kf2 Kh3 18.Ke2 g5 19.Kd3 Kh2 20.Kc4 g4 21.Kb5 g3 22.Kb6 Kh3
-77.09/43 1.c7 Kb7 2.Kf2 h3 3.Bh6 g6 4.Kg1 Bxc7 5.Kf1 Kc8 6.Bd2 Kd7 7.Kg1 Ke6 8.Bg5 Be5 9.Kh1 Kd7 10.Bh6 Bc7 11.Be3 Kc6 12.Bd2 Kd5 13.Kg1 Ke6
-77.09/43 1.Bc1 h3 2.Kf2 Kb5 3.Bh6 g6 4.c7 Bxc7 5.Kf3 Kc6 6.Kf2 Kd7 7.Bc1 Be5 8.Bg5 Kd6 9.Bh4 Ke6 10.Kf3 Kf5 11.Kf2 Bf6 12.Bxf6 Kxf6 13.Kg3 Kg5 14.Kxh3 Kf4 15.Kg2 Kg4 16.Kf2 Kh3 17.Ke2 g5 18.Kd3 Kh2 19.Kc4 g4 20.Kb5 g3 21.Kb6 Kh3
#-23/42 1.Be1 h3 2.c7 Bxc7 3.Kf2 g5 4.Kg1 Kb5 5.Kf1 g4 6.Bh4 Kc6 7.Be1 Kd5 8.Bh4 Ke4 9.Kf2 Bd6 10.Kg1 Kf3 11.Kh1 Bc5 12.Bg3 Be3 13.Kh2 Bf4 14.Bxf4 Kxf4
#-23/42 1.Bc3 h3 2.Kf2 g5 3.c7 Bxc7 4.Bf6 g4 5.Bh4 Kb5 6.Kg1 Kc6 7.Kf1 Kd5 8.Bf2 Ke4 9.Kg1 Kf3 10.Kh1 Ba5 11.Bh4 Bb6 12.Bg3 Be3 13.Bh2
#-17/42 1.Bb4 Bxb4 2.c7 Kb7 3.c8=B+ Kxc8 4.Kf4 Be1 5.Kg4 Kc7 6.Kh3 Kc6 7.Kg2 g5 8.Kh3 Kd5 9.Kg4 Ke4 10.Kxg5 h3 11.Kg4 h2 12.Kg5 h1=Q 13.Kg6
#-14/42 1.Kd4 h3 2.Bg5 Kb5 3.Kd5 Bc7 4.Bf4 Bxf4 5.Ke4 Kxc6 6.Kxf4 h2 7.Kf3 h1=Q+ 8.Kf2 Kd5 9.Ke3 Qg2 10.Kf4 Qf2+ 11.Kg5 Ke6 12.Kg4 Qe3 13.Kh5 Qf4 14.Kg6 Qh6#
#-13/42 1.Kd3 h3 2.Ke2 h2 3.c7 Bxc7 4.Bf4 Bxf4 5.Kf3 h1=Q+ 6.Kxf4 Kb6 7.Kf5 Kc5 8.Kg6 Kd6 9.Kg5 Qe4 10.Kh5 Qg2 11.Kh4 Ke5 12.Kh5 Kf4 13.Kh4 Qg4#
#-13/42 1.Ba5 Kxa5 2.Kf3 h3 3.c7 Bxc7 4.Kf2 g5 5.Kf1 g4 6.Kf2 g3+ 7.Kf3 g2 8.Kf2 Kb4 9.Kf3 g1=Q 10.Ke2 h2 11.Kd2 h1=Q 12.Kc2 Qf2+ 13.Kd3 Qd5#
I'll let it run over the night, just our of curiosity, but if your results are correct then Carlsen's preparation is flawed. ;)
"The only good bug is a dead bug." (Don Dailey)
[Blog: http://tinyurl.com/predateur ] [Facebook: http://tinyurl.com/fbpredateur ] [MacEngines: http://tinyurl.com/macengines ]
Top
Sven
Posts: 4052
Joined: Thu May 15, 2008 9:57 pm
Location: Berlin, Germany
Full name: Sven Schüle

Re: FIDE World Chess Championship thread

Post by Sven »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
jdart wrote:Very nice performance by Carlsen today.

I haven't had a chance to analyze the game but it is remarkable that Carlsen won the last Rook endgame with a pawn up, and won this one a pawn down, with Black! This is what he is crazy good at: squeezing out wins in the endgame. I agree Anand will have trouble unless he can get Carlsen into positions that are uncomfortable for him.

--Jon
Anand's problems were present way before the endgame as he misunderstood the the very concept of the Ruy Lopez Berlin Defence even before the early stages of the endgame....

It's obviously that Carlsen has done his homework perfectly and demonstrated to the whole world that being a Kasparov's pupil is not a fact to be underestimated even by a world champion 8-)

Faith makes things possible not easy regards,
Dr.D
After quickly analyzing game 6 I get the impression that the game was always within the draw range until Anand blundered with 60.Ra4?. 60.b4! for instance seems to draw. The key concept may be that Ra4 loses a tempo compared to b4.

[d]8/8/7p/8/2R2p1p/2P1k1r1/1P4PK/8 w - - 0 60

H1.5a analysis on my laptop:

Code: Select all

info multipv 1 depth 31 seldepth 72 score cp -8  time 80608 nodes 877137641 nps
10881000 tbhits 0 hashfull 1000 pv b2b4 h4h3 g2h3 g3g5 h3h4 g5g8 c4c7 f4f3 c7e7
e3d3 b4b5 f3f2 e7f7 d3e2 f7e7 e2f1 b5b6 g8g2 h2h1 g2g4 h1h2 g4h4 h2g3 h4c4 g3h2
c4c3 b6b7 c3b3 e7f7 h6h5 f7d7 b3b2 d7e7 h5h4 h2h1 b2b4 h1h2 b4b3 e7d7 b3b2 d7e7
b2b5 h2h3 b5b3 h3h2 b3b1 h2h3 b1b3 h3h2
Any opinions about that, or any other analysis results on better hardware?

Sven
Top

Return to “Computer Chess Club: General Topics”