Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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IWB
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Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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As usual you find the running tourney here: http://www.inwoba.de

Have fun
Ingo
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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Really surprising Critter is performing really bad but it's too early
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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The post I'd been waiting for!
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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IWB wrote:As usual you find the running tourney here: http://www.inwoba.de

Have fun
Ingo

462 out of 2550 games played
379.0 - 83.0 82.03% Perf=3088

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Houdini 3

Houdini 3 STD - Komodo 5 (3012)		17.5	-	9.5		64.81%		Perf=3118
Houdini 3 STD - Critter 1.4a (2990)		19.5	-	7.5		72.22%		Perf=3155
Houdini 3 STD - Stockfish 2.2.2 JA (2972)		19.5	-	8.5		69.64%		Perf=3116
Houdini 3 STD - Deep Rybka 4.1 (2965)		19.0	-	9.0		67.86%		Perf=3094
Houdini 3 STD - Naum 4.2 (2840)		22.5	-	5.5		80.36%		Perf=3084
Houdini 3 STD - HIARCS 14 WCSC 32b (2824)		22.5	-	4.5		83.33%		Perf=3103
Houdini 3 STD - Gull 1.2 (2805)		23.0	-	3.0		88.46%		Perf=3158
Houdini 3 STD - Hannibal 1.2 (2801)		23.5	-	3.5		87.04%		Perf=3131
Houdini 3 STD - Deep Shredder 12 (2800)		20.5	-	6.5		75.93%		Perf=2999
Houdini 3 STD - Deep Sjeng c't 2010 32b (2795)		24.5	-	3.5		87.50%		Perf=3133
Houdini 3 STD - Spike 1.4 32b (2784)		23.0	-	4.0		85.19%		Perf=3087
Houdini 3 STD - spark-1.0 (2770)		23.0	-	4.0		85.19%		Perf=3073
Houdini 3 STD - Protector 1.4.0 (2761)		24.5	-	2.5		90.74%		Perf=3157
Houdini 3 STD - Deep Junior 13.3 (2754)		21.0	-	6.0		77.78%		Perf=2971
Houdini 3 STD - Quazar 0.4 (2740)		24.0	-	3.0		88.89%		Perf=3101
Houdini 3 STD - Zappa Mexico II (2709)		25.0	-	2.0		92.59%		Perf=3147
Houdini 3 STD - MinkoChess 1.3 (2696)		26.5	-	0.5		98.15%		Perf=3385
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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At this writing it is +35 over Houdini 2, a respectible gain for a year though less than predicted. Of course this could still change quite a bit. It's good enough for me to buy a copy myself, I often want two opinions (Komodo and Houdini) of a position. If the gain stays around this level, I think Komodo will catch it in a few months, as we are now on a par with Houdini 2.
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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lkaufman wrote:At this writing it is +35 over Houdini 2, a respectible gain for a year though less than predicted. Of course this could still change quite a bit. It's good enough for me to buy a copy myself, I often want two opinions (Komodo and Houdini) of a position. If the gain stays around this level, I think Komodo will catch it in a few months, as we are now on a par with Houdini 2.
That's the right spirit !
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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I think it is very good for someone who did not have Houdini 2, to get Houdini 3. But for someone who did get houdini 2, it may be better to be satisfied with what he has, for now. I..... do not have Hooudini 2.
Still, if it turns out to be only +35 elo over previous, then I'm not so sure that it won't equalled or overtaken in less than a year. But if it was +80 elo, then i would say EVERYONE should get it now, if he wants playing strength, and it may last for 2 years in first place (only under Houdini 4).
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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lkaufman wrote:At this writing it is +35 over Houdini 2, a respectible gain for a year though less than predicted. Of course this could still change quite a bit. It's good enough for me to buy a copy myself, I often want two opinions (Komodo and Houdini) of a position. If the gain stays around this level, I think Komodo will catch it in a few months, as we are now on a par with Houdini 2.
Actually you are 100+ Elo behind Houdini 2 becuase you don't have SMP.
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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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S.Taylor wrote:I think it is very good for someone who did not have Houdini 2, to get Houdini 3. But for someone who did get houdini 2, it may be better to be satisfied with what he has, for now. I..... do not have Hooudini 2.
Still, if it turns out to be only +35 elo over previous, then I'm not so sure that it won't equalled or overtaken in less than a year. But if it was +80 elo, then i would say EVERYONE should get it now, if he wants playing strength, and it may last for 2 years in first place (only under Houdini 4).

I think that +35 in a year for Komodo is not difficult, if Larry has enough time to work on the search/evaluation and positional weights and patterns he can reach, imo, more than 40 elo.

Yes, +80 would be a terrible shot for the competitors, but honestly i think h3 will stop its run many elos before.

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Re: Houdini 3 running for the IPON

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lkaufman wrote:At this writing it is +35 over Houdini 2, a respectible gain for a year though less than predicted. Of course this could still change quite a bit. It's good enough for me to buy a copy myself, I often want two opinions (Komodo and Houdini) of a position. If the gain stays around this level, I think Komodo will catch it in a few months, as we are now on a par with Houdini 2.
+42 now, after 1,000 games. Don't forget that the final result is calculated with Bayeselo and could be off the value against the average (as it is estimated now). And H3 perfoms ~80 points above K5 in the direct match. If these numbers will stay, I don't see Komodo "catching in a few months".