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The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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....playing in one of my ongoing rated tournaments....

[Event "Computer Schach Partie"]
[Site "DELL-PC"]
[Date "2012.01.25"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Trace 1.37a"]
[Black "Virtual Chess II 2.04"]
[Result "0-1"]
[BlackElo "2350"]
[ECO "C96"]
[Opening "Spanish"]
[Time "17:50:00"]
[Variation "Closed, Chigorin, 11.d4 cxd4"]
[TimeControl "1200+20"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "95"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "human"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.h3 d6 9.c3
Na5 10.Bc2 c5 11.d4 cxd4 12.cxd4 Bb7 13.d5 Nc4 14.a4 {+0.27/15 51} Qa5 15.Bd3
{+0.50/14 50} Rfc8 16.b3 {+1.36/16 49} Nb6 17.Bd2 {+1.36/15 42} b4 18.Na3 {+1.35/15 48}


[d]r1r3k1/1b2bppp/pn1p1n2/q2Pp3/Pp2P3/NP1B1N1P/3B1PP1/R2QR1K1 b - - 1 18

18....Nbxd5

:shock: Holly Molly

19.exd5 {+2.42/14 47} Qxd5 20.Bc4 {+2.27/15 46} Qc5 21.Nc2 {+2.26/14 46} a5
22.Rc1 {+2.43/12 54} Qb6 23.Qe2 {+2.29/13 44} h6 24.Be3 {+2.19/12 44} Qd8 25.Rcd1
{+1.95/14 85} Qc7 26.Bd4 {+1.18/13 246} e4 27.Bxf6 {+2.23/13 34} Bxf6 28.Nfd4 {+2.14/14
34} d5 29.Bb5 {+2.13/15 33} Qb6 30.Qh5 {+2.16/11 33} Rc3 31.Rd2 {+1.97/12 33} Rac8
32.Qg4 {+1.87/12 32} R8c7 33.h4 {+1.51/12 32} Be5 34.Red1 {+1.34/13 63} Qf6 35.Ne3
{+1.23/13 25} Bc8 36.Qh5 {+1.04/14 30} R7c5 37.Ng4 {+0.80/12 27} Bxg4 38.Qxg4 {+0.59/15
29} Bf4 39.Re2 {+0.89/13 29} h5 40.Qf5 {0.00/17 176} Qxh4 41.g3 {0.00/14 24} Bxg3
42.fxg3 {0.00/13 24} Rxg3+ 43.Rg2 {0.00/14 24} Rxg2+ 44.Kxg2 {0.00/16 20} Rc3 45.Kf1
{0.00/14 24} g6 46.Qf2 {-2.29/14 95} Rg3 47.Rc1 {-2.48/13 22} Qh1+ 48.Ke2 {-2.45/16 22} 0-1


[d]6k1/5p2/6p1/pB1p3p/Pp1Np3/1P4r1/4KQ2/2R4q b - - 5 48

So how mnay engines will play this crazy move :!: :?:

Just look at Trace's eval after black's 18th move :lol:

The poor thibg thinks it's winning :wink:
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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it is a pity that the virtua engines have not been continued.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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mclane wrote:it is a pity that the virtua engines have not been continued.
Absolutely....

I am sure that there is nowhere in mother Earth that this engine is tested nowadays in any rating list except mine....of course all the games are played manually for obvious reasons 8-)
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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I liked Virtua(l) too. I had three versions: DOS, Windows (I think that was Virtual II), and one for the Nintendo64 video console. The N64 version did not have much in common with the PC versions and was very bad.

The windows interface was good. I remember a unique feature: A kind of "on the fly" analysis mode during position setup. That means, the program would always analyse while you could add or remove pieces etc. If illegal (e.g. a king missing or both in check etc.), it would recognize this and simply wait until the position was (semi-)legal again. No need to leave setup mode, start analysis mode, back to setup mode, etc.etc.

I am not aware of any other chess interface having that feature.

Virtual Chess achieved the second rank in the Micro-WCCC Paris 1997, having been the only program that could win it's game against the winner: Junior. It would be interesting to see how things would have developed since then, in an alternative reality where Virtual would have won the title.

http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/97wm$tix.htm

Very good programs and engines come and go. M-Chess comes to mind... (Micro Champion 1995).
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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Mike S. wrote:I liked Virtua(l) too. I had three versions: DOS, Windows (I think that was Virtual II), and one for the Nintendo64 video console. The N64 version did not have much in common with the PC versions and was very bad.

The windows interface was good. I remember a unique feature: A kind of "on the fly" analysis mode during position setup. That means, the program would always analyse while you could add or remove pieces etc. If illegal (e.g. a king missing or both in check etc.), it would recognize this and simply wait until the position was (semi-)legal again. No need to leave setup mode, start analysis mode, back to setup mode, etc.etc.

I am not aware of any other chess interface having that feature.

Virtual Chess achieved the second rank in the Micro-WCCC Paris 1997, having been the only program that could win it's game against the winner: Junior. It would be interesting to see how things would have developed since then, in an alternative reality where Virtual would have won the title.

http://www.mark-weeks.com/chess/97wm$tix.htm

Very good programs and engines come and go. M-Chess comes to mind... (Micro Champion 1995).
Thanks Mike for your informative post....

I do remember the triumph of the program back in 1997....
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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I say it again and again, but nobody seems to share my opinion. Gothmog is a jewel:

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FEN: r1r3k1/1b2bppp/pn1p1n2/q2Pp3/Pp2P3/NP1B1N1P/3B1PP1/R2QR1K1 b - - 1 18 

Gothmog 1.0:
  1/1	00:00	          93	93.000	+0,06	18. ... Da5-c5
  2/1	00:00	         455	455.000	-0,16	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Sa3-c4
  3/3	00:00	       3.368	336.800	-0,35	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Ta1-c1 Dc5-a5
  4/5	00:00	       7.416	309.000	-0,47	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Ta1-c1 Dc5-a5 20.Sa3-c4
  5/7	00:00	      28.147	360.858	-0,91	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5
  6/7+	00:00	      29.282	361.506	-0,91	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5
  6/8	00:00	      34.904	359.835	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Sb4-a2
  7/8+	00:00	      35.797	361.585	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Sb4-a2 Db6-c5
  7/9	00:00	      47.408	351.170	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.a4-a5 Db6-c5 21.Sc2xb4 Tc8-b8
  8/11-	00:00	      85.776	345.870	-0,88	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.a4-a5 Db6-c5 21.Sc2xb4 Tc8-b8
  8/11	00:00	     117.597	360.726	-1,10	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-c7 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Ta1-c1 Dc7-b6 22.Tc1xc8+ Ta8xc8
  9/12-	00:00	     209.028	349.545	-1,13	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 20.Ta1-c1
  9/13+	00:00	     263.628	360.147	-1,19	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Ld2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Dd1-d2
  9/13	00:00	     271.066	358.079	-1,16	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Ld2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Dd1-d2
 10/18-	00:01	     452.637	353.622	-1,19	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Sc2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Ld2-e3 Da7-a8 23.Ta1-c1
 10/18+	00:01	     535.577	358.006	-1,25	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ld3-f5 Ld5xc4 23.b3xc4 Dc6xc4 24.Lf5xc8 Ta8xc8
 10/18	00:01	     580.123	358.321	-1,25	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ld3-f5 Ld5xc4 23.b3xc4 Dc6xc4 24.Lf5xc8 Ta8xc8
 11/22-	00:03	   1.105.565	353.667	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ta1-c1
 11/22	00:03	   1.247.038	350.882	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld2xb4 a6-a5 21.Te1xe5 d6xe5 22.Lb4xe7 Dd5-e6
 12/24+	00:04	   1.414.329	347.159	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld2xb4 a6-a5 21.Te1xe5 d6xe5 22.Lb4xe7 Dd5-e6
 12/24	00:07	   2.497.057	351.500	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Sf3-g5 Tc8-f8 23.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 24.Sg5-f3
 13/30+	00:09	   3.099.348	344.716	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Sf3-g5 Tc8-f8 23.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 24.Sg5-f3
 13/30	00:15	   5.376.622	349.721	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4
 14/30+	00:19	   6.752.759	349.214	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c7
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Re: STASI (near) complete informations !

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Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Thanks Mike for your informative post....

I do remember the triumph of the program back in 1997....
Dr.D

Hi Mr.Doc !

First of all to present me : I'm SilvianR /Iasi/Romania/.............strasse........- an ET searched by Interpol all around the galaxy ! :lol:

Some "news" about Virtual Chess 2:

1.-I have this program from many years , together with its nice original box !
2.-Publisher: Titus Interactive (Co. Ltd Inc.GmbH AG SRL........ :lol: ).
3.The autors are from France (Allons enfants de la Patrie/ Le jour de gloire est arrivé/ Contre nous de la tyrannie .............):

Mr.Marc-François Baudot & Mr.Jean-Christophe Weill

4.-Virtual Chess 2 is a derivation from two well - known chess programs :
-Cumulus (1990-Lyon ; 1991-Vancouver and 1992 -Madrid [version 2 in the 7-th WCCC - were no scandals in those times]);
-Écume (1993-München).

I have both these chess engines. Long live Ruxy !!!!!

5.Was the 5-th in the 13-th WM(icrocomputer)CCC Paderborn 1995 ( my very dear Stobor of Tom Kerrigan was only the 25-th :cry:).
6.Was the first in the 14-th WMCCC Jakarta 1996.
7.Was the second in the 15-th WMCCC Paris 1997 (after Junior).
8.The first in the 5-th French CC campionship (1995).
9. The 13-th place in the 9-th WCCC Paderborn (1999).
10.Was in the great Aegon 1997 tournament (O tempora !).
11.1,5-0,5 versus IGM Etienne Bacrot (Cap d'Agde).
12.many ,many more....................(written in C.........).....

A great history ! A great engine !

Bonus:

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Yours,
SilvianR :wink:
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Re: The amazing style of Virtual Chess II....

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Alexander Schmidt wrote:I say it again and again, but nobody seems to share my opinion. Gothmog is a jewel:

Code: Select all

FEN: r1r3k1/1b2bppp/pn1p1n2/q2Pp3/Pp2P3/NP1B1N1P/3B1PP1/R2QR1K1 b - - 1 18 

Gothmog 1.0:
  1/1	00:00	          93	93.000	+0,06	18. ... Da5-c5
  2/1	00:00	         455	455.000	-0,16	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Sa3-c4
  3/3	00:00	       3.368	336.800	-0,35	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Ta1-c1 Dc5-a5
  4/5	00:00	       7.416	309.000	-0,47	18. ... Da5-c5 19.Ta1-c1 Dc5-a5 20.Sa3-c4
  5/7	00:00	      28.147	360.858	-0,91	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5
  6/7+	00:00	      29.282	361.506	-0,91	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5
  6/8	00:00	      34.904	359.835	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Sb4-a2
  7/8+	00:00	      35.797	361.585	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Sb4-a2 Db6-c5
  7/9	00:00	      47.408	351.170	-0,85	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.a4-a5 Db6-c5 21.Sc2xb4 Tc8-b8
  8/11-	00:00	      85.776	345.870	-0,88	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-b6 20.a4-a5 Db6-c5 21.Sc2xb4 Tc8-b8
  8/11	00:00	     117.597	360.726	-1,10	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c2 Da5-c7 20.Sc2xb4 a6-a5 21.Ta1-c1 Dc7-b6 22.Tc1xc8+ Ta8xc8
  9/12-	00:00	     209.028	349.545	-1,13	18. ... Sb6-d7 19.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 20.Ta1-c1
  9/13+	00:00	     263.628	360.147	-1,19	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Ld2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Dd1-d2
  9/13	00:00	     271.066	358.079	-1,16	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Ld2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Dd1-d2
 10/18-	00:01	     452.637	353.622	-1,19	18. ... Ta8-b8 19.Sa3-c2 Sb6-d7 20.Sc2xb4 Da5-b6 21.a4-a5 Db6-a7 22.Ld2-e3 Da7-a8 23.Ta1-c1
 10/18+	00:01	     535.577	358.006	-1,25	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ld3-f5 Ld5xc4 23.b3xc4 Dc6xc4 24.Lf5xc8 Ta8xc8
 10/18	00:01	     580.123	358.321	-1,25	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ld3-f5 Ld5xc4 23.b3xc4 Dc6xc4 24.Lf5xc8 Ta8xc8
 11/22-	00:03	   1.105.565	353.667	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Lb7xd5 20.Sa3-c4 Da5-c5 21.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 22.Ta1-c1
 11/22	00:03	   1.247.038	350.882	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld2xb4 a6-a5 21.Te1xe5 d6xe5 22.Lb4xe7 Dd5-e6
 12/24+	00:04	   1.414.329	347.159	-1,29	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld2xb4 a6-a5 21.Te1xe5 d6xe5 22.Lb4xe7 Dd5-e6
 12/24	00:07	   2.497.057	351.500	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Sf3-g5 Tc8-f8 23.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 24.Sg5-f3
 13/30+	00:09	   3.099.348	344.716	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Sf3-g5 Tc8-f8 23.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c6 24.Sg5-f3
 13/30	00:15	   5.376.622	349.721	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4
 14/30+	00:19	   6.752.759	349.214	-1,16	18. ... Sb6xd5 19.e4xd5 Da5xd5 20.Ld3-c4 Dd5-c5 21.Sa3-c2 a6-a5 22.Ld2-e3 Dc5-c7
:D
Fully agreed....one of the few chess engines that is a real aggressive monster....

Playing in one of my current running tournaments BTW....
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Re: STASI (near) complete informations !

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Sylwy wrote:
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Thanks Mike for your informative post....

I do remember the triumph of the program back in 1997....
Dr.D

Hi Mr.Doc !

First of all to present me : I'm SilvianR /Iasi/Romania/.............strasse........- an ET searched by Interpol all around the galaxy ! :lol:

Some "news" about Virtual Chess 2:

1.-I have this program from many years , together with its nice original box !
2.-Publisher: Titus Interactive (Co. Ltd Inc.GmbH AG SRL........ :lol: ).
3.The autors are from France (Allons enfants de la Patrie/ Le jour de gloire est arrivé/ Contre nous de la tyrannie .............):

Mr.Marc-François Baudot & Mr.Jean-Christophe Weill

4.-Virtual Chess 2 is a derivation from two well - known chess programs :
-Cumulus (1990-Lyon ; 1991-Vancouver and 1992 -Madrid [version 2 in the 7-th WCCC - were no scandals in those times]);
-Écume (1993-München).

I have both these chess engines. Long live Ruxy !!!!!

5.Was the 5-th in the 13-th WM(icrocomputer)CCC Paderborn 1995 ( my very dear Stobor of Tom Kerrigan was only the 25-th :cry:).
6.Was the first in the 14-th WMCCC Jakarta 1996.
7.Was the second in the 15-th WMCCC Paris 1997 (after Junior).
8.The first in the 5-th French CC campionship (1995).
9. The 13-th place in the 9-th WCCC Paderborn (1999).
10.Was in the great Aegon 1997 tournament (O tempora !).
11.1,5-0,5 versus IGM Etienne Bacrot (Cap d'Agde).
12.many ,many more....................(written in C.........).....

A great history ! A great engine !

Bonus:

Image

Yours,
SilvianR :wink:
Thanks Silvian....a great portion of information related to this great chess engine....
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Re:Just for you Doc !

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I think in Amman isn't snow like in Varna !
Just for you a photo - from this morning - in an Iasi park alley:

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Superb ! A lot of snow ! Tomorrow night Ruxy will be for sure in mountains !!! :lol:

Nostalgia ?

Regards,
SilvianR :wink:
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