Rybka Investigation : Survey Of Evidence

[Terry McCracken]

there are still millions who preach fanatically that the world and species were created in 7 days , despite overwhelming lack of evidence and common sence

Are you familiar with programming, especially with chess programming? And just in case you aren't, do you think that it is up to non-programmers to judge how "overwhelming" such evidence really is?

whilst rybka has such cretins as Bill Strong , chris dick whittington and more plus puppets like poor ed and the band wagon jumpers this will continue untill they are pushing up daisy's

Why those insults? Why not just stating your different opinion? Note, this is a thread started by someone who tried to come up with something substantially neutral (even if you don't believe it, as you wrote), so if there is any place where personal insults are most misplaced then I think it is here.

Sven

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

my oh my you lack the intellect to do more than abuse those that disagree with you
how pleased we are that the German females we know are far brighter and well manner
your ignorance befits rybka forum

Why don't you tell us who you are? It's not going to last much longer blind siding members with personal attacks.

[Darkmoon]

there are still millions who preach fanatically that the world and species were created in 7 days , despite overwhelming lack of evidence and common sence

Are you familiar with programming, especially with chess programming? And just in case you aren't, do you think that it is up to non-programmers to judge how "overwhelming" such evidence really is?

whilst rybka has such cretins as Bill Strong , chris dick whittington and more plus puppets like poor ed and the band wagon jumpers this will continue untill they are pushing up daisy's

Why those insults? Why not just stating your different opinion? Note, this is a thread started by someone who tried to come up with something substantially neutral (even if you don't believe it, as you wrote), so if there is any place where personal insults are most misplaced then I think it is here.

Sven

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

my oh my you lack the intellect to do more than abuse those that disagree with you
how pleased we are that the German females we know are far brighter and well manner
your ignorance befits rybka forum

Why don't you tell us who you are? It's not going to last much longer blind siding members with personal attacks.

I feel personally responsible for having added to the distraction. Mr. Schule is correct in his perceptions of the importance of the original intent of this thread. I would encourage the moderators to delete the posts that are not adding to this discussion or branch it .

[natasha]

there are still millions who preach fanatically that the world and species were created in 7 days , despite overwhelming lack of evidence and common sence

Are you familiar with programming, especially with chess programming? And just in case you aren't, do you think that it is up to non-programmers to judge how "overwhelming" such evidence really is?

whilst rybka has such cretins as Bill Strong , chris dick whittington and more plus puppets like poor ed and the band wagon jumpers this will continue untill they are pushing up daisy's

Why those insults? Why not just stating your different opinion? Note, this is a thread started by someone who tried to come up with something substantially neutral (even if you don't believe it, as you wrote), so if there is any place where personal insults are most misplaced then I think it is here.

Sven

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

my oh my you lack the intellect to do more than abuse those that disagree with you
how pleased we are that the German females we know are far brighter and well manner
your ignorance befits rybka forum

Why don't you tell us who you are? It's not going to last much longer blind siding members with personal attacks.

I feel personally responsible for having added to the distraction. Mr. Schule is correct in his perceptions of the importance of the original intent of this thread. I would encourage the moderators to delete the posts that are not adding to this discussion or branch it .

we might actualy agree but for your inability to respond to our reply to you after sticking your rybka led nose into it

you follow ed and vas in cherry picking what you believe you can pick holes in whilst ignoring real abuse and untruths
typical of so many with your mentality

[Rolf]

Rolfy....

What a pleasant surprise....

So Vasik cut off your tether and dropped you here to defend him and bite the villains yet again

One told me that even if they would kill me at talkchess, I were recompensated with a woman of my choice, called Mr. natasha. I want to taste it for a change. Life is too short to have missed that. Told me that I could meet BO, the President. Is that true? Hope this helps. Good night.

P.S. please inform me if I am allowed to shoot back or if this is still a bully for the deviant inmates here to insult visitors? Because they have a higher ethics here they told me... Please come in dozens so that I can do it for the whole group altogether.

[Roger Brown]

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

Hello Guenther,

Now that is a new low in a series of lows aimed by some of the membership at the moderators.

I asked you a question by pm pertinent to this discussion - I was seeking clarification on something I believe - and that you ignored.

Only of course to make this statement.

Ah well, it is easier to do what you do with supposedly clever, snide remarks than to deal with an issue...

No, no new pet. Just another growing issue to be noted and dealt with as appropriate.

Later.

[Adam Hair]

Amateur thinker? Well, at least you used the term "thinker" in the description.

I would like to point out that your statements have not been limited to cautions against lynch mob mentality.

At any rate, I will reiterate my statement. There has not been a neutral assessment of all the evidence presented, so I have tried to provide that with my report.

As for the rest of your post, I hope you will allow me to wait until I return home this evening. This phone I am using at the moment impedes my ability to answer you properly (it is much easier to read posts than to reply).

Adam

We have here a play with words. All what I said and meant amateur thinkers for those who couldnt have understood my point, was always that we had a yearlong hate campaign, that was the argument standing on the explained in dubio pro reo which was permanently violated by Bob Hyatt.

Apart from the wording I used as a foreigner my position was neither pro nor anti Rybka because I'm just an observer but no CC expert. So all I expressed was the _neutral_ statement that this hate campaign was against everything of the IN DUBIO PRO REO. Trivially it's not following a bias if I support such a basc rule or law. Do you understand me?

So, since I expressed always this basic requirement of the truth you were wrong with the assumption that we only had biased messages. Sorry if I have to insist, but I know that you are open for such unrefutable statements. My insisting on the bases doesnt become false if I add some aggressive undertone. Normally those who didnt even hear of that requirement, normally shouldnt even be worth for a reply, perhaps this would be better. But you normally should be able to understand the relevance of the iron rule.

Now I will try to read your paper. Perhaps you could find something neutral too.

Rolf,

Individual rights are of great importance, but they must be in balance with the rules of conduct that are necessary for society. At times, we must determine if an individual's actions go against those rules of conduct. Ideally, we use logic to determine if wrongs have been committed. Then we combine compassion with logic to determine the possible punishment. If, even with the use of logic, we fail to determine the truth, then we must always judge for the accused. But we would be in error if we did not make a full effort to determine the truth. That is owed both to the individual and to society.

You hold the belief that Vas has been honest, that he did write his own code with no copying (except for public domain code). Very well. No one should find fault with you because you trust Vas' statements. However, you have also expressed distrust towards people other than Dr. Hyatt for presenting evidence against Vas. On more than one occasion you have implied that Vas' genius places him above these charges. All in all, you have displayed a pro-Vas mentality. Again, that is no crime. However, your invocation for "IN DUBIO PRO REO" comes across as an attempt to short-circuit the process of discovery. It is still far from being determined that we have reached an impasse, that we can not decide the truth. You wish to use the principle to protect your belief in Vas.

Adam

[natasha]

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

Hello Guenther,

Now that is a new low in a series of lows aimed by some of the membership at the moderators.

I asked you a question by pm pertinent to this discussion - I was seeking clarification on something I believe - and that you ignored.

Only of course to make this statement.

Ah well, it is easier to do what you do with supposedly clever, snide remarks than to deal with an issue...

No, no new pet. Just another growing issue to be noted and dealt with as appropriate.

Later.

an issue thats suffered libel and abuse

what of the libelers and abusers Roger

slap on the back and "well done lads thats shut IT up ?"


calling a female an IT is acceptable under your forums charter , so you see fit to warn me not them

interesting given the posts weve made re moderation at rybka

[Darkmoon]

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

Hello Guenther,

Now that is a new low in a series of lows aimed by some of the membership at the moderators.

I asked you a question by pm pertinent to this discussion - I was seeking clarification on something I believe - and that you ignored.

Only of course to make this statement.

Ah well, it is easier to do what you do with supposedly clever, snide remarks than to deal with an issue...

No, no new pet. Just another growing issue to be noted and dealt with as appropriate.

Later.

an issue thats suffered libel and abuse

what of the libelers and abusers Roger

slap on the back and "well done lads thats shut IT up ?"


calling a female an IT is acceptable under your forums charter , so you see fit to warn me not them

interesting given the posts weve made re moderation at rybka

I didn't answer you in those terms! But I received abusive treatment from you. How can you expect any kind of meaningful dialogue to emerge if you shut people down right from the start. You do exactly what you accuse others of doing to you -stereotyping. That is disingenuous -what follows from that is the idea that you are here with an intent to shut down any kind of dialogue down that doesn't go your way.

This is just my perception.

However, you are correct in pointing out the same- but you can only worry about being master of your own actions

[natasha]

Please don't feed the troll(s). It will at max last a few days until IT
shoots itself in the brain and most CCC readers already know it
by now.
Just look at the hyperventilating number of posts and the increasing
hatred, arrogance and absurdness of IT...
Moderation seems to have a new pet, no?

Guenther

Hello Guenther,

Now that is a new low in a series of lows aimed by some of the membership at the moderators.

I asked you a question by pm pertinent to this discussion - I was seeking clarification on something I believe - and that you ignored.

Only of course to make this statement.

Ah well, it is easier to do what you do with supposedly clever, snide remarks than to deal with an issue...

No, no new pet. Just another growing issue to be noted and dealt with as appropriate.

Later.

an issue thats suffered libel and abuse

what of the libelers and abusers Roger

slap on the back and "well done lads thats shut IT up ?"


calling a female an IT is acceptable under your forums charter , so you see fit to warn me not them

interesting given the posts weve made re moderation at rybka

I didn't answer you in those terms! But I received abusive treatment from you. How can you expect any kind of meaningful dialogue to emerge if you shut people down right from the start. You do exactly what you accuse others of doing to you -stereotyping. That is disingenuous -what follows from that is the idea that you are here with an intent to shut down any kind of dialogue down that doesn't go your way.

This is just my perception.

However, you are correct in pointing out the same- but you can only worry about being master of your own actions

no yours were more abusive as were the pms you sent


better you sent those than spamming others topics though

[Darkmoon]

I've never sent you a PM!

I guess your aren't about lying either!

What is your problem?