Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve
Mike S. wrote:We are witnessing nothing less than the schism of computer chess. The process is irreversible already.
From now on, we are divided into the "anti Rybka / pro ICGA" persuasion and in the "pro Rybka / anti ICGA" persuasion (in addition to the third group which doesn't care for either, and I suspect that is the biggest ).
not Dr Søren Riis
Maybe we should create a sub forum for personal attacks, in fighting, or whatever you want to call it as these hot topics always seem to go this way. Oh and yes this Sub forum should be Hidden and for members only!
How can any support someone taking Gnu code, change a bit and sell it?
Is not about "rybka / anti rybka", is about honest / dishonest
IGCA has rules. Someone break the rules, get punished. Thats is a good principle.
Much better than the principles of rybka ..."author"? rybka.."programmer"?
Steve B wrote:Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve
Steve,
The big question is, provided Vas will speak right now, would that be of any help? Or will he be teared down into pieces ?
Bottom line, will he receive a listening ear ?
There has been a 5-6 year anti-Rybka campaign especially here at this forum and that has left its traces in the minds of many.
Steve B wrote:Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
The above also is my take on this situation.
The ICGA gave Rajlich ample opportunity to present a defense, but none from him was forthcoming. Instead, the honest investigators are plagued by harpy-like, ad hominem attacks -- the most vociferous of which come from the least technically qualified.
Even at this very late date, I believe that if Rajlich were to admit to obvious and unauthorized copying, then he could get his lifetime ICGA ban lessened to a few years at most. But a continued stubbornness accompanied by a failure to disavow his cacophonous public defenders means that the ICGA ban will follow him to his grave.
sje wrote:Even at this very late date, I believe that if Rajlich were to admit to obvious and unauthorized copying, then he could get his lifetime ICGA ban lessened to a few years at most. But a continued stubbornness accompanied by a failure to disavow his cacophonous public defenders means that the ICGA ban will follow him to his grave.
Steve B wrote:Has Rajlich even responded to any of this on any of the forums?
Rather then let the Rybka Party Faithful(Moderators,friends,,Aunts and Uncles ..long term posters,,etcetc) speak for him.. you would think by now..certainly now that Playchess has taken up the issue..he would speak out and try to defend himself or dispute the ICGA decision
if not..IMHO his total silence on the forums speaks volumes
either he cant defend himself or he simply could care less
im guessing its probably both
i cant imagine any other programmer remaining silent for so long..
im sorry it's way past due that he himself speak out
Muted Regards
Steve
As long as there is no court case his program is legal to sell.
Chess Base and Vas will sell the program as long as it makes money.
That's the bottom line.
The process is irreversible already.
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