Houdini 2 Aquarium released

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi,

wow Alex!
It seems you are one of the users which are able to looked in detail. I have the same opinion. With more hardware power the engines lost playing strength.

Have a nice weekend!

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Marco,

all what we need are persons which are able to gave right answers.
Example: Yourself with Tord, Jooni too.

And the answers should give on the chessboard. Great Stockfish sources are open for each one and must not be free available in the future because enough is free available.

With others words:
I know your opinion about free sources but I say it in the interview too. Times are bad to do such things.

Please dear Marco ...
Thinking again with your great SF team about it and be sure ...

Computer chess need Tord, Marco and Jooni!
We should collect what we have!

Have a nice day!

Best
Frank

[Ralph Stoesser]

I agree it is a good package worth the money. Runs okay on 64bit Ubuntu with 64bit wine.

Native Linux binaries would be great though.

Hello Ralph, do you have any ideas about the performance hit coming from running with Wine64 in Linux, compared to running in Windows?
I sometimes get asked this question, and have no idea what to reply.

Robert

kN/s values are ~5-15% lower compared to Win7. The autotune command seems not to work on Linux.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Alex,

you are a joker too.

"ins_pirat_ion"

Without ins and ion

Best
Frank

[Frank Quisinsky]

Allejulia.

If people are sitting alone at home and using www.
Very danger, more and more for our children.

Unfortunately, not listed in the TOP-10.
Time to be change.

The TOP-10 should be rewritten and here is open source absolutely right.

Yes, you are right!

Best
Frank

I hope nobody have the idea that the TOP-10 are clones.

[Frank Quisinsky]

Hi Robert,

it seems you are not welcome. Perhaps from your fan boys only.

Shortly information for yourself.

I believe that two other engines are stronger as Houdini. Thinker and Komodo. Why ChessAssistant don't have this information? I will write Monday a short mail to Sergei and Victor.

You are using GPL sources for Houdini after all information I can read.
Will be your own sources available soon?

Many users await it after the messages the Thinker programmer and others has written in the last year.

Do you have contacts to Norman, the person where created the sources you are using. Which opinion have Norman to Houdini?

And why you have written, all is from myself.
What is your problem Robert?

Frank

[Laskos]

My claim is that the _professional_ CC programmers of Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs and Shredder repeatedly have shown themselves as at least incompetent and lazy, if not as idiots.

Is that some kind of irony?

I can't believe that one calls people, who do NOT illegaly assimilate Open Source Code, idiots.

Replace "Code" by "Ideas and Techniques". And don't forget to remove "illegaly"...

The whole point of Open Source is to share ideas and techniques. Nothing wrong in using the best known ideas from Open Source. In contrary it is highly desirable!

My post wasn't related to a special Engine. Kai was talking about "assimilated Fruit Code" which is illegal. He said Authors are idiots if they don't "assimilate" Fruit and Stockfish code.

SO no, I don't remove illegal because it IS illegal to assimilate gpl Code.

Do you know what it means to assimilate knowledge in sciences? If you don't, what I meant is that each one of those famed authors should have got quickly the ideas behind the code, and without breaking any rules, use the open source engines to increase the strength of their own engines. These famed professionals failed on all the occasions.

If you still don't understand how professional science works, go to college. Or you are just nitpicking here, defending the incompetent, to say the least, authors of Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs and Shredder?

Kai

[Laskos]

The people on this and other forums would be floored if they actually knew how some of these paragons of virtue raided Fruit.

Interesting: Some just said they are idiots because they didn't use Fruit code, you say they are paragons of useing illegal code.

I suggest you both first discuss why they are idiots, then we go on...

I don't know what you want to say here and with whom I have to agree. It is obvious that the professional authors, making a living from Fritz, Junior, Hiarcs and Shredder, are actually much weaker in their field of expertise than many hobbyists. Some of them are not only incompetent (to the point of idiocy), but also disgraceful in their marketing tricks. For example, the Fritz useless, crappy engine is always bundled with the newest Fritz GUI, which is not useless and crappy. Besides that, nobody seems to attack those authors on the field of competency. Is it a funny field of hard sciences having Ippo and Stockfish as open sources, and top professionals selling and marketing engines 150 Elo points weaker?

Peter, go bark at that incompetent called Morsch, he undeservedly makes a living out of pure marketing tricks.

Kai

[Houdini]

I agree it is a good package worth the money. Runs okay on 64bit Ubuntu with 64bit wine.

Native Linux binaries would be great though.

Hello Ralph, do you have any ideas about the performance hit coming from running with Wine64 in Linux, compared to running in Windows?
I sometimes get asked this question, and have no idea what to reply.

Robert

kN/s values are ~5-15% lower compared to Win7. The autotune command seems not to work on Linux.

Ralph,

Thank you for the useful information!

Robert

[Houdini]

Hi Robert,

it seems you are not welcome. Perhaps from your fan boys only.

Shortly information for yourself.

I believe that two other engines are stronger as Houdini. Thinker and Komodo. Why ChessAssistant don't have this information? I will write Monday a short mail to Sergei and Victor.

You are using GPL sources for Houdini after all information I can read.
Will be your own sources available soon?

Many users await it after the messages the Thinker programmer and others has written in the last year.

Do you have contacts to Norman, the person where created the sources you are using. Which opinion have Norman to Houdini?

And why you have written, all is from myself.
What is your problem Robert?

Frank

Frank,

1) You should consult the rating lists to see which engine is stronger, can I suggest the following useful link: http://www.amateurschach.de .
2) Houdini does NOT contain any licensed code other than the EGTB probing code.
3) I have no contact with Norman, and Norman did not create the sources I am using.

Please stop spreading all this nonsense about Houdini in an endless series of forum posts on several forums.

Robert