We are not whining and complaining here. I am just trying to defend against some accusations. Don't I have the right to defend myself against accusations here? Is this forum under dictatorship? Would I just keep being silent even when I'm being accused of stuff that are just entirely false?bob wrote:Sorry, but this is _complete_ bullshit. I have already mentioned that the finger notes on the day in question looked like this:Edsel Apostol wrote:It's not Rybka in disguise. Please straighten your facts first. It was clearly written in the notes that it was running Rybka to test/tune the opening book. It was not disguised.Matthias Gemuh wrote:There is absolutely nothing wrong nor misleading about Bob's comments on what he observed on ICC.
His comments and proofs have been confirmed by the operator of the Rybka in disguise.
Why can't some people understand such basic facts ?
To Edsel:
a) admit that it is wrong to tune TwistedLogic's book on ICC with a Rybka in disguise (operator already apologized).
b) no now existing chess engine genuinely searching at 80k nps is a match for current Crafty at 20 M nps.
Matthias.
1: TwistedLogic beta by Edsel Apostol, Philippines
2: AMD Athlon 64X2 3800+ 2010 MHz, using 1 CPU with 256MB hash
3: Mostly unattended. Email me at ed_apostol@yahoo.com for question/comments.
4: Beta Tester, Opening Book, Operator: Audy Arandela
5: Current and Best beta version for now: t2009923_x64
6: Rybka's, please limit your RATED games. I would like to preferrably play
amateur chess engines or humans of course!
7: http://ed.apostol.googlepages.com/home
8: Using self-made Twistedbook! TwistedLogic able to use ownbook now!
9: Humans that have defeated me: Revisor(GM), RoadKing(GM)
"No rybkas" indeed.No point in playing Rybka vs Rybka, right?
That did _not_ say, on the day in question, "testing new book using Rybka". So you can get off of that horse before you use the spurs, it isn't going anywhere.
(1) Rybka is not searching at 80K nodes per second. Already proven, old news, some even patched the program to remove the code that obfuscates this data. Whether it is more than a match for crafty or not is not the issue. You might want to _make_ that the issue, but it is not. The issue is claiming to be A, while actually using B, and then complaining and whining about getting exposed.
a.) it is not wrong to tune TL's book or any other engine's book on ICC with Rybka. the problem here is that the account used by TL in one of the online tournaments is used to tune the book and it gives misleading information. My operator apologized for that mistake. I admit that it was a mistake on my operator's part.
b.) I am not sure if Rybka is genuinely searching at 80k NPS but if it is, it is more than a match for Crafty
My operator/tester committed a mistake and apologized for that. What are you trying to achieve by making the issue bigger? You want to discredit me as dishonest? You don't want TL to join the next CCT because of those accusations? You're thinking that we use Rybka in tournaments? My goal is to beat Rybka and not to use/copy/clone it.