My hard test suite 2008

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Re: My hard test suite 2008

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Marc MP wrote:Hi Vincent,

Thank you for the suite, they are always time consuming to gather and verify.
For the record, game 49 (King's Attack) is Marcozy-Tartakower (1922): http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1003826
Infos added, Thanks !
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Re: My hard test suite 2008

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Thanks for sharing this.
I guess pos6 (Bh3) won't be played by any engine. I think it is winnig, but was it the best move? It was Shirov playing this, right?
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Re: My hard test suite 2008

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George Tsavdaris wrote: But what about instead of 4...Kc5??, black to play: 4...Ka4!!
8/5p2/1ppp4/8/k4P2/7P/8/5K2 w - - 0 5

I have on this:

[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2007.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[Annotator "George"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "8/5p2/1ppp4/1k6/5P2/7P/8/5K2 b - - 0 1"]
[PlyCount "17"]

1... Ka4 $3 (1... Ka5 $2 {draw} 2. h4 b5 3. h5 b4 4. Ke2 Ka4 5. h6 b3 6. Kd2
Ka3 7. h7 b2 8. h8=Q b1=Q 9. Qa8+ Kb2 10. Qxc6 Qg6 11. Qb5+) (1... Kc5 $4 {lose
} 2. h4 Kd5 3. h5 Ke6 4. h6 Kf6 5. f5 b5 6. Ke2 d5 7. Kd3 b4 8. Kc2 d4 9. Kc1
c5 10. Kc2 c4 11. Kc1 d3 12. Kd2 b3 13. Kc3) 2. h4 b5 3. h5 b4 4. h6 b3 5. h7
b2 6. h8=Q b1=Q+ 7. Kf2 Qc2+ 8. Kg3 Kb5 9. Qb8+ Kc4 *
It seems correct (and very annoying :) ), Black seems better after Ka4!
I didn'd find any reference to this position, may be someone could help ?
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position #2 (Hydra move)

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I don't get this solved after 45 minutes on a quad : b4 is the 3rd choice (doesn't mean this isn't best, though):

"played by Hydra on playchess server, 2004" bm b4
result: Kh1 2500 seconds. score:+0.13 4244904807 nodes. ** error
Kh1 Nf3 gxf3 gxh6 Nxc6 Qxf2 Rfxf2 Re1+ Kg2 bxc6 Rxd6 Bh4 Be4 Bxf2 Kxf2 Rc1 Bxc6
Rb8 Rd3
result(2): Be3 2500 seconds. score:+0.00 4262016580 nodes.
** error
Be3 Qb4 Nf5 Rad8 Rfd1 Re6 Nd4 Ree8 Nf5
result(3): b4 2500 seconds. score:-0.22 4315295384 nodes.
++ correct
b4 Qb6 Kh1 Qd8 Qg3 Kh8 Nxc6 bxc6 Rdf2 Rg8
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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Is it possible for someone to post this suite in .epd format?

Thanks
Dave
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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jdart wrote:I don't get this solved after 45 minutes on a quad : b4 is the 3rd choice (doesn't mean this isn't best, though):

"played by Hydra on playchess server, 2004" bm b4
...
I remember some top engines find it :wink:
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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jdart wrote:I don't get this solved after 45 minutes on a quad : b4 is the 3rd choice (doesn't mean this isn't best, though):

"played by Hydra on playchess server, 2004" bm b4
result: Kh1 2500 seconds. score:+0.13 4244904807 nodes. ** error
...
Hiarcs depth 15 :

r3r1k1/1p3pp1/p1bp1b1B/2q1n3/2PN4/1P5P/2BR1QP1/5RK1 w - - 0 1
Analysis by HIARCS 12 MP:

1. ± (0.90): 1.b4 Cf3+ 2.gxf3 Dxc4 3.Ff4 d5 4.Tb1 Fd7 5.Fd3 Dc3 6.Cf5 Fe5 7.Dh4
2. ² (0.40): 1.Fe3 Db4 2.Tdd1 Dc3 3.Fc1 a5 4.Fb2 Db4 5.Dg3
3. = (0.19): 1.Rh1 Cf3 2.gxf3 gxh6 3.Cxc6 bxc6 4.Dg3+ Dg5 5.Dg1 Rf8 6.Dxg5 hxg5 7.Txd6 Te6
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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New game
r3r1k1/1p3pp1/p1bp1b1B/2q1n3/2PN4/1P5P/2BR1QP1/5RK1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Toga II 3.1.2SE MP special.: Old AMD 2000Mhz :wink:

1.b4 Qb6 2.Kh1 Qd8 3.Qg3 Kh8 4.Nxc6 bxc6 5.c5 Re6 6.Bf4 d5 7.Bf5 Nc4 8.Rdd1 Re7 9.Bd3 Qg8
+/= (0.62) Depth: 15/56 00:05:43 246mN
+/= (0.62) Depth: 15/56 00:05:43 246mN

(Taylor, 21.07.2008)

Good little prog that there Toga!, is there something special about it? :twisted:

Chris :lol:
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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David Dahlem wrote:Is it possible for someone to post this suite in .epd format?

Thanks
Dave
There are 1182 records in it (assuming that the pvs are also optimal).
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Re: position #2 (Hydra move)

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Dann Corbit wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:Is it possible for someone to post this suite in .epd format?

Thanks
Dave
There are 1182 records in it (assuming that the pvs are also optimal).
What i would like to have is just the .epd positions with the "bm" (best move). I really don't want to do this manually. Is there a utility that will extract these positions and convert to a .epd test suite?

Regards
Dave