Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Discussion of anything and everything relating to chess playing software and machines.

Moderators: hgm, Harvey Williamson, bob

Forum rules
This textbox is used to restore diagrams posted with the [d] tag before the upgrade.
Post Reply
lech
Posts: 921
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:02 pm

Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Post by lech » Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:41 pm

Why Sting (based on Dtockfish 2.1.1) is not a dirty clone but the serious project.
I try to prove that an artificial inteligence is not needed to solve many difficult (unsolved) for engines positions. It is only a question of missing code. The highest ELO is not able to replace it.
I selected the following questions (examples), solved in Sting's code:

1) Sacrifice breaking fortress
3N2r1/2K1p3/4Pk2/8/Bp5b/8/2P5/8 b - - bm Bg3+ (and next Kd7 Rxd8);
8/5pKN/5Pp1/5kP1/8/Bb6/8/7q b - - bm Qxh7;
7k/6rp/5BpN/1r4P1/8/8/8/K7 b - - bm Rf5 (and next Bd4 Rxg5);
1r6/4k3/r2p2p1/2pR1p1p/2P1pP1P/pPK1P1P1/P7/1B6 b - - bm Rxb3+;

2) Zugzwang delayed by pawn moves
1N4K1/1pp1p3/7k/2r3pP/p2pp1P1/P6N/8/2B5 w - - bm Nc6;
5K2/k4p1p/5p1p/1p3p2/bP6/1p6/1P5p/7B w - - bm Ke8(e7);
1n6/Pp1p1p1p/1P1P1P1P/4K3/2p5/p7/rpp1P3/qkb1R3 w - - bm axb8N;
4N3/B6p/n2p4/rk1P4/p6p/P3Pp1P/3N1P1b/5K2 w - - bm Ke1;

3) Trapped piece in endgames
q1b4n/1p1pKp2/1p1p1Pp1/1P1P2Pp/2P4P/8/7R/1N1k4 w - - bm Ra2;
4q1kr/p6p/1prQPppB/4n3/4P3/2P5/PP2B2P/R5K1 w - - bm Qxe5;
1k1n4/1p1b1p2/1Bp1pPp1/1PP1P3/8/6P1/8/1K6 w - - bm Bc7+;
1K3kB1/8/6p1/7R/8/4b3/8/6n1 w - - bm Rh8 (and next Kg7 Bh7);

There is needed a code to solve the main problem for engines: how to get zero in draw positions? It is a subtle question but I believe possible to do it by a code no tricks. :)
Maybe, I can't be friendly, but let me be useful.

User avatar
Graham Banks
Posts: 30733
Joined: Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:52 am
Location: Auckland, NZ

Re: Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:02 pm

Hi Marek,

some people just don't like open source at all and seem to castigate anybody taking advantage of it.
There are plenty of members who enjoy Sting.

Graham.
My email addresses:
gbanksnz at gmail.com
gbanksnz at yahoo.co.nz

rvc
Posts: 7
Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 3:08 pm

Re: Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Post by rvc » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:05 pm

Yes, I'm a big fan of Sting SF project.
Keep it up Marek :)

Cheers.

User avatar
Master Om
Posts: 251
Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:57 am
Location: INDIA

Re: Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Post by Master Om » Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:58 am

And I am too a big fan of Sting. I want to see it being progressed. To hell with others who don't understand.
Always Expect the Unexpected

lech
Posts: 921
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:02 pm

Re: Where is the diference? (about Sting project)

Post by lech » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:01 am

Many thanks friends! :)
I hope future events let me follow this way yet.
Maybe, I can't be friendly, but let me be useful.

Post Reply