Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

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Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by Jouni » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:27 am

If Rybka 3 is delayed until new GUI is ready we must wait years! I think
chessok has no skills to make good interface. And do we need new one -
there is already 2 interfaces without any major flaws or missing functions...

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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by _wp_ » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:44 am

What is it - chessok? Convekta?
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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by AdminX » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:44 am

Jouni wrote:If Rybka 3 is delayed until new GUI is ready we must wait years! I think
chessok has no skills to make good interface. And do we need new one -
there is already 2 interfaces without any major flaws or missing functions...

Jouni
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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by Spock » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:50 am

Well - Hiarcs 12 was no threat even to Rybka 2.3.2a on most ratings lists. The next possible threat may be Deep Fritz 11, or Deep Junior 11 if that product even exists. So apart from Vas' personal finances, it would appear there is no desperate urgency for Rybka 3

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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:54 am

Deep Fritz 11 is the animal to be aware of....
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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by ml » Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:52 pm

So which engine will finally overtake Rybka? I say it will be a version of Fritz in the year 2010! But that's just a wild guess.

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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by fern » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:47 pm

Of course we need a new one.

First, because we are bored to death with always the same flat grey squares doing the same thing
Second, because this new GUi will bring some new features that are useful and/ or entertaining for the player.
What we DO do NOT need is in fact a new engine 30 points stronger, being the current one 100 times better than any of us anyway.

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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by George Tsavdaris » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:08 pm

fern wrote:Of course we need a new one.

First, because we are bored to death with always the same flat grey squares doing the same thing
Second, because this new GUi will bring some new features that are useful and/ or entertaining for the player.

What we DO do NOT need is in fact a new engine 30 points stronger, being the current one 100 times better than any of us anyway.
No this is not correct. We need that too.
We need programs to be able to understand and solve all kind of positions. So we need their Chess understanding to increase. So since Chess understanding has obviously a direct connection with ELO increase, we need their ELO to increase.

How else they can solve NOLOT-3 in practical play time? Or find the following mate in practical time again? We need their ELO to increase!
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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by playjunior » Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:32 pm

The second one is awesome, thanks a lot George!

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Re: Rybka 3 with new GUI: are they serious?!

Post by Henrik Dinesen » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:47 pm

If Rybka 3 is delayed until new GUI is ready we must wait years!
How do you know that it wont be the other way around, the GUI that will wait for Rybka 3?
I think chessok has no skills to make good interface.
There's a first time for everything, but the people in ChessOk (Convekta) has made Chess Assistant nearly as long as the ChessBase-people has made ChessBase.
And for all I know, the work in progress with new GUI is going very well - they didn't start yesterday.
And do we need new one - there is already 2 interfaces without any major flaws or missing functions...
I can imagine 100's of features that could work their way in to a chess GUI, making it nearly superior.

BTW, GUI's can be many things, and you mention 2 - but I surely can't guess which you're refering to: For typical computerchess, and alot associated stuff I have the Fritz GUI, Chess Assistant, Shredder (classic coming with the Shredder engines) and Arena.
All good in their own ways, but I wouldn't say that there's no flaws or bugs in any of them, except maybe Shredder.
When it comes to functions/features all can be improved alot, but Chess Assistant is clearly the most feature-rich. I didn't mention Chessbase, since that's a database program which can't be used for computerchess.[/quote]
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