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Ovyron
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The Clone Tournament

Post by Ovyron » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:48 pm

Now even tourneys are cloned! :lol:

Yesterday, Ray started a new tourney and asked what version of Toga should participate. I wanted Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov to participate but went 5 hours too late! So I decided to make my first tourney a clone of his tourney but with this Toga, and with the difference that my tourney will have a greatly lower quality:

Athlon 2.1Ghz 32bit
Several GUIs
1'+ 7" with ponder off
64MB hash each engine
6-men online tablebases (Games adjudicated upon reaching 6 piece endings)
No books
Round robin each color, 112 games

To make up for that, I created new engine logos for all the participating engines:

Rybka 1.0
Fruit 2.3.1
Toga II 3.1.2 Chekov
Spike 1.2 Turin
Glaurung 2.0.1
Naum 2.0
Bright 0.2c
Frenzee Dec07

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You can also try to guess what engines are going to end in 1st, 2nd and 3rd places (But if you are going to pick the same engines as another person, just do it on a different order.) Feedback appreciated 8-)

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by David Dahlem » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:29 am

I would like to clone this tourney also, but i don't have Toga 3.1.2 SE Checkov. Is it available for download?

Thanks
Dave

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by Ovyron » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:38 am

David Dahlem wrote:I would like to clone this tourney also, but i don't have Toga 3.1.2 SE Checkov. Is it available for download?

Thanks
Dave
Chekov is just Toga 3.1.2 SE with these settings:

[OPTIONS]
Verification Reduction=6
Futility Margin=125
Extended Futility Margin=325
Delta Margin=55
Quiescence Check Plies=2
Material=102
Piece Activity=103
King Safety=125
Pawn Structure=105
Passed Pawns=105
Toga Lazy Eval Margin=245
Toga Extended History Pruning=true

(Not the compile that made these the default but was slower.)

Thanks to Eelco de Groot for these settings ;)

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by David Dahlem » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:24 am

Ovyron wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:I would like to clone this tourney also, but i don't have Toga 3.1.2 SE Checkov. Is it available for download?

Thanks
Dave
Chekov is just Toga 3.1.2 SE with these settings:

[OPTIONS]
Verification Reduction=6
Futility Margin=125
Extended Futility Margin=325
Delta Margin=55
Quiescence Check Plies=2
Material=102
Piece Activity=103
King Safety=125
Pawn Structure=105
Passed Pawns=105
Toga Lazy Eval Margin=245
Toga Extended History Pruning=true

(Not the compile that made these the default but was slower.)

Thanks to Eelco de Groot for these settings ;)
Thanks for the link. This source for Toga 3.1.2SE compiles ok for me. I have never tinkered with Toga code, but i may try compiling a build with these settings as default.

:roll:

Regards
Dave

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by David Dahlem » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:01 am

Ok, here is my "clone" tourney in Arena - Round Robin, "5 + 5", 56 games start 1.d4, 56 games start 1.e4, ponder off, 128mb hash.

I don't have Frenzee-Dec07 so i'm using Frenzee-Feb08.

My first attempt to compile Toga and change the default settings was a success. Here is the output for my Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov build ...

Toga II 3.1.2SE UCI based on Fruit 2.1 by Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey.
Settings by Dieter Eberle.
Chekov Settings by Eelco de Groot.
uci
id name Toga II 3.1.2SE-Chekov
id author Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey
option name Hash type spin default 256 min 4 max 1024
option name Search Time type spin default 0 min 0 max 3600
option name Search Depth type spin default 0 min 0 max 20
option name Ponder type check default false
option name OwnBook type check default false
option name BookFile type string default performance.bin
option name MultiPV type spin default 1 min 1 max 10
option name NullMove Pruning type combo default Always var Always var Fail High
var Never
option name NullMove Reduction type spin default 3 min 1 max 4
option name Verification Search type combo default Always var Always var Endgame
var Never
option name Verification Reduction type spin default 6 min 1 max 6
option name History Pruning type check default true
option name History Threshold type spin default 70 min 0 max 100
option name Futility Pruning type check default true
option name Futility Margin type spin default 125 min 0 max 500
option name Extended Futility Margin type spin default 325 min 0 max 900
option name Delta Pruning type check default true
option name Delta Margin type spin default 55 min 0 max 500
option name Quiescence Check Plies type spin default 2 min 0 max 2
option name Material type spin default 102 min 0 max 400
option name Piece Activity type spin default 103 min 0 max 400
option name King Safety type spin default 125 min 0 max 400
option name Pawn Structure type spin default 105 min 0 max 400
option name Passed Pawns type spin default 105 min 0 max 400
option name Toga Lazy Eval type check default true
option name Toga Lazy Eval Margin type spin default 245 min 0 max 900
option name Toga King Safety type check default false
option name Toga King Safety Margin type spin default 1700 min 500 max 3000
option name Toga Extended History Pruning type check default true
uciok

Regards
Dave

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by Ovyron » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:05 am

David Dahlem wrote:My first attempt to compile Toga and change the default settings was a success. Here is the output for my Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov build ...
Congrats, I hope that your compile is as fast as Denis Mendoza's ;) (I just tell the GUI to change Toga settings so I don't need to recompile.)

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by David Dahlem » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:48 am

Ovyron wrote:
David Dahlem wrote:My first attempt to compile Toga and change the default settings was a success. Here is the output for my Toga II 3.1.2SE Chekov build ...
Congrats, I hope that your compile is as fast as Denis Mendoza's ;) (I just tell the GUI to change Toga settings so I don't need to recompile.)
Well, i just don't trust the GUI. I'm not expert at compiling but i think my builds are ok.

By the way, great logos! i'm using them, except for Frenzee, in my clone tourney.

EDIT: If Toga wins this tourney, i'll give the credit to my build. If Toga plays like crap, i'll blame it on the chekov settings.

:lol:

Regards
Dave

Spock

Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by Spock » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:49 am

Ovyron wrote:Now even tourneys are cloned! :lol:

:lol: why not, the results will be interesting

Spock

Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by Spock » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:56 am

David Dahlem wrote: I don't have Frenzee-Dec07 so i'm using Frenzee-Feb08.
I'd forgotten that Feb08 had come out. But someone reminded me so that's what I'm using

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Re: The Clone Tournament

Post by David Dahlem » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:28 pm

Spock wrote:
David Dahlem wrote: I don't have Frenzee-Dec07 so i'm using Frenzee-Feb08.
I'd forgotten that Feb08 had come out. But someone reminded me so that's what I'm using
Frenzee-Feb08 is currently leading my clone tourney ...

Engine Score FrNaFrSpRyToBrGl S-B
1: Frenzee-Feb08 5.0/6 · = 1 1 = 1 1 11.75
2: Naum 2.0 3.5/6 = · 1 = 0 = 1 9.50
3: Fruit 2.3.1 3.5/6 0 · = 1 1 = = 8.00
4: Spike 1.2 3.0/6 0 = = · 0 1 1 6.50
5: Rybka 1.0 Beta 3.0/5 0 0 1 · 1 1 6.00
6: Toga 3.1.2SE-Chekov 2.0/5 = 1 0 · 0 = 6.50
7: Bright 0.2c 2.0/6 0 = = 0 0 1 · 5.50
8: Glaurung 2.0.1 1.0/6 0 0 = 0 0 = · 2.75

23 of 112 games played
Level: Blitz 5/5
Hardware: Dual Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz with 1,014 MB Memory

Regards
Dave

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