Ok, I am maybe messing up something having crap GPU, and using 4 core i7 CPU with games. Then, I haven't looked at TCEC conditions. First, I was comparing 4 core CCRL rating of standard engines with 1080 Ti GPU LC0 (which might be even stronger than that which runs on TCEC CPU). But TCEC for standard engines is not on 4 cores, it is on 43 cores. Then, TCEC time control now is rapid instead of LTC.George Tsavdaris wrote:For ID 170, watching its games is a big step forward!Laskos wrote: Hmm, interesting. He has a good GPU (still probably not 1080 Ti), but with these nps and time control (1'+ 1'') I expected a 2450 CCRL Elo performance or so. Isn't his 2685 CCRL Elo too much?
Look for example here also.
2700 CCRL ELO seems very likely on good GPU.
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v7 slowmover125 id157 laser 1.0 2728 ccrl 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id157 slowmover 125 vs Laser-1_0: 11 - 19 - 13 [0.407] Elo difference: -65.40 +/- 89.61 v7 slowmover125 id160 laser 1.0 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id160 slowmover 125 vs Laser-1_0: 5 - 10 - 6 [0.381] Elo difference: -84.34 +/- 135.12 v7 slowmover125 id162 laser 1.0 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id162 slowmover 125 vs Laser-1_0: 32 - 40 - 29 [0.460] Elo difference: -27.58 +/- 57.77 v7 slowmover120 id164 laser 1.0 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id164 slowmover 120 vs Laser-1_0: 26 - 25 - 8 [0.508] Elo difference: 5.89 +/- 83.91 v7 slowmover120 id170 laser 1.0 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id170 slowmover 120 vs Laser-1_0: 27 - 21 - 14 [0.548] Elo difference: 33.73 +/- 77.54 v7 slowmover120 id171 laser 1.0 4cpu 2800 ccrl 40/1 Score of lczero v7 id171 slowmover 120 vs Laser-1_0 4cpu: 19 - 30 - 10 [0.407] Elo difference: -65.54 +/- 83.56
So, yes, in absolute ratings on a good GPU I am probably off, which would mean that LC0 scales even better than I measured. On my CPU (400-800 nps) at 10s/move (so, 4000-8000 playouts per move), it is rated at about 2400 CCRL Elo (against 2 standard engines of similar strength). With 1080 Ti, LC0 nps can be 4k-8k, and at 1'+ 1'' it can mean 10000+ playouts.
But I think relative improvement I still can measure, and it doesn't seem to be very much higher since ID160 (say 40 Elo points or so).