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Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
or a better processor
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Add your own ram / SSD or chose one of the pre-configured options.
I have been tempted but have not bought. My guess is cooling will be better than a laptop?
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Add your own ram / SSD or chose one of the pre-configured options.
I have been tempted but have not bought. My guess is cooling will be better than a laptop?
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
I am using an asus zenbook 14 with 8 cores.
33 watt with all 8 cores running and with empty battery and working 66 watt.
I dont see why a small computer without battery and without screen should be better.
A laptop fits in any small bag. I can take it with me on a bike, its not losing data and when i need a big screen i can connect a hdmi cable or an usb c cable to the monitor.
When there is a power failure my data is not crashing and lost. And i can load it with my solar pad, so i am autarc.
33 watt with all 8 cores running and with empty battery and working 66 watt.
I dont see why a small computer without battery and without screen should be better.
A laptop fits in any small bag. I can take it with me on a bike, its not losing data and when i need a big screen i can connect a hdmi cable or an usb c cable to the monitor.
When there is a power failure my data is not crashing and lost. And i can load it with my solar pad, so i am autarc.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
I got rid of all my desktops. Big, noisy and heavy. Totally useless. If I need a bigger screen to play games. I'll just use HDMI or thunderbolt on my ThinkPads and play games on 100" screen.
Beats Raspberry PI 100-0 as well. I can program in python w/ real keyboard and screen. And blink LEDs etc.
When you add a case, cooling and SSDs to Raspberry PIs it's not so small anymore. I see no point when you can buy a T480s in cheaper than RaspBerry PI.
I only have 14" ThinkPad laptops I can put in my backpack and go anywhere. Everything is encrypted. 15.6" and bigger laptops are a bit heavy.
i5-8th gets 48MNPS
Ryzen 4800U gets 55MNPS
i7 is clearly the strongest CPU. It gets 77MNPS.
Beats Raspberry PI 100-0 as well. I can program in python w/ real keyboard and screen. And blink LEDs etc.
When you add a case, cooling and SSDs to Raspberry PIs it's not so small anymore. I see no point when you can buy a T480s in cheaper than RaspBerry PI.
I only have 14" ThinkPad laptops I can put in my backpack and go anywhere. Everything is encrypted. 15.6" and bigger laptops are a bit heavy.
i5-8th gets 48MNPS
Ryzen 4800U gets 55MNPS
i7 is clearly the strongest CPU. It gets 77MNPS.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
I am currently using 2X Minisforum UM690, a Beelink SER5 and a Mini-ITX desktop using the Minisforum BD790i MB which gives me 40 cores and 80 threads to devote to chess programming and part-time game playing. I use one ultra-side monitor and one keyboard to interface to my BD790i and remote-pc to interface to the other mini-pcs. I couldn't even image the chaos of trying to use 4 laptops when this little guess sit perfectly on a tallish, custom-made wooden rack that looks like it could also be used for chotchkies. I don't feel like I'm missing anything with this arrangement.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
Yes. I use a mini. I like it a lot. I want this one next:Jouni wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 10:18 pm https://store.minisforum.de/products/mi ... d_source=1
60W power usage.
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Advanced Micro Devices fan.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
The Achilles knee of mini-desktops is the cooling. "Tidal cooling system" is total BS.
It's gonna throttle due to over: 240V * 6.32A = 1516W power consumption if all passive cooling.
Or the little fan is gonna go 10000 RPM and 120dB mayhem.
When I was building desktops. I usually installed a Scythe Ninja passive cooler. It's an absolutely massive cooler sitting on top of CPU but it kept it cool. You need a massive case to install.
No fans anywhere. Totally silent (pun intended).
But it was big and ugly. Got rid of them.
It's gonna throttle due to over: 240V * 6.32A = 1516W power consumption if all passive cooling.
Or the little fan is gonna go 10000 RPM and 120dB mayhem.
When I was building desktops. I usually installed a Scythe Ninja passive cooler. It's an absolutely massive cooler sitting on top of CPU but it kept it cool. You need a massive case to install.
No fans anywhere. Totally silent (pun intended).
But it was big and ugly. Got rid of them.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
iPad Pro 13-inch M4.mclane wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 11:28 am I am using an asus zenbook 14 with 8 cores.
33 watt with all 8 cores running and with empty battery and working 66 watt.
I dont see why a small computer without battery and without screen should be better.
A laptop fits in any small bag. I can take it with me on a bike, its not losing data and when i need a big screen i can connect a hdmi cable or an usb c cable to the monitor.
When there is a power failure my data is not crashing and lost. And i can load it with my solar pad, so i am autarc.
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Re: Is anybody using mini-PC for chess?
Cooling is about physical laws. Either you use a low voltage cpu (arm) or fans or water cooling.
In a small mini pc or thin tablet pc only arm cpus are possible or water cooling.
But not really effective cooling.
My zenbook is not eating much power.
But for really fast stuff you need big fans with 15 cm metall cooler or big water cooler.
In a small mini pc or thin tablet pc only arm cpus are possible or water cooling.
But not really effective cooling.
My zenbook is not eating much power.
But for really fast stuff you need big fans with 15 cm metall cooler or big water cooler.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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