FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

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FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi there,

the next round robin is still running:
ICE 2.0 v2240 POP x64

Complete new engine for me, very interesting.

If you have interest to follow ...

Frank's Chess Page
http://www.amateurschach.de

Best
Frank

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    400  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    300  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    200  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    100  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Komodo 8 x64                   771.0/950  81.2%  3082  3114  20 20  30.5%   
 02. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64    769.0/950  80.9%  3080  3112  19 19  33.3%  
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64         702.0/950  73.9%  3013  3039  18 18  37.9%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64               617.0/950  64.9%  2943  2961  17 17  43.8%
 05. Chiron 2.0 x64                 540.0/950  56.8%  2886  2897  17 17  39.8%
 06. Critter 0.90 SSE4 x64          535.0/950  56.3%  2883  2893  17 17  42.9%
 07. Protector 1.6.0 x64            524.5/950  55.2%  2875  2884  16 16  45.2%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                 497.0/950  52.3%  2856  2863  17 17  40.6%
 09. Hannibal 1.4b x64              496.0/950  52.2%  2855  2862  17 17  42.5%
 10. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64           461.0/950  48.5%  2831  2834  17 17  41.1%
 11. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32             448.0/950  47.2%  2822  2824  16 16  45.7% 
 12. Shredder 12 x64                417.0/950  43.9%  2800  2800  17 17  40.8%
 13. Junior 12.5.03 x64             391.0/950  41.2%  2782  2779  17 17  39.8%
 14. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64        361.5/950  38.1%  2760  2755  18 18  35.1%
 15. Quazar 0.4 x64                 358.0/950  37.7%  2758  2752  17 17  41.1% 
 16. Spark 1.0 x64                  350.5/950  36.9%  2752  2746  18 18  38.4%
 17. Vajolet2 1.45 POP x64          344.5/950  36.3%  2748  2741  18 18  38.6%
 18. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64            315.5/950  33.2%  2726  2717  18 18  36.3%
 19. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64      314.0/950  33.1%  2724  2715  18 18  37.9%
 20. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64           287.5/950  30.3%  2703  2692  18 18  36.1%
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64          ---.-/---
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 ... after 200 = 2780 Elo

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 Stats after   100,   200 ... games!   Elo   Games  Score  Draws   White Black Points  w/ d/ l
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----  1.000  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    900  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    800  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    700  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    600  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    500  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    400  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 --. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             ----    300  --.-%  --.-%   --,-  --,-  --,-   --/--/--
 14. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             2780    200  41.2%  47.5%   23,0  16,5  40,0   15/50/35
 13. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64             2788    100  42.5%  45.0%   23,0  19,5  42,5   20/45/35
  

                                       Points  Score  EloS  Ordo  +   -  Draws
 01. Komodo 8 x64                   780.5/960  81.3%  3084  3116  20 20  30.3%   
 02. Stockfish 03.08.14 BMI2 x64    777.5/960  81.0%  3080  3113  19 19  33.2%  
 03. GullChess 3.0 BMI2 x64         709.5/960  73.9%  3013  3040  18 18  37.8%
 04. Fire 3.0 AVX x64               624.5/960  65.1%  2943  2962  17 17  43.6%
 05. Chiron 2.0 x64                 548.5/960  57.1%  2888  2899  17 17  39.7%
 06. Critter 0.90 SSE4 x64          540.5/960  56.3%  2883  2893  17 17  43.2%
 07. Protector 1.6.0 x64            531.0/960  55.3%  2876  2886  16 16  45.4%
 08. Hannibal 1.4b x64              502.5/960  52.3%  2856  2863  17 17  42.4%
 08. Texel 1.04 x64                 502.5/960  52.3%  2856  2863  17 17  40.7%
 10. Senpai 1.0 SSE42 x64           466.0/960  48.5%  2831  2835  17 17  41.0%
 11. Hiarcs 14 WCSC w32             455.0/960  47.4%  2824  2826  16 16  45.6%
 12. Shredder 12 x64                421.0/960  43.9%  2800  2800  17 17  41.0%
 13. Junior 12.5.03 x64             395.0/960  41.1%  2782  2779  17 17  40.0%
 14. iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64           82.5/200  41.2%  2780  2777  35 35  47.5% 
 15. SmarThink 1.70 SSE3 x64        369.0/960  38.4%  2763  2758  18 18  35.2%
 16. Quazar 0.4 x64                 362.0/960  37.7%  2758  2753  17 17  41.2% 
 17. Spark 1.0 x64                  355.0/960  37.0%  2753  2747  17 17  38.8%
 18. Vajolet2 1.45 POP x64          350.0/960  36.5%  2749  2743  17 17  39.0%
 19. Gaviota 1.0 AVX x64            319.0/960  33.2%  2726  2717  18 18  36.5%
 20. Deuterium 14.2.33.276 x64      317.5/960  33.1%  2724  2716  18 18  38.2%
 21. Nirvanachess 1.7 x64           291.0/960  30.3%  2703  2693  18 18  36.0%
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by tpetzke »

Complete new engine for me, very interesting.
I know it for quite a while already :-)

Thanks for checking it out, I hope it will score some points even in this tough field. When I was developing it I haven't played such an opponent field, I don't even have most of the engines so it is interesting to see.
Thomas...

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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

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Hi Thomas,

in my holiday I will work on the idea to create a second list of 21 engines. Different bigger updates on my webpage will be the result ... need a bit time. More engines, more fun in testing.

Your engine plays here very solid chess, very strong. Nice to have it for my tourney.

Thanks for your hard work!!

Perhaps you can find a bit in checking the database later.
For the moment all works fine, no technical problems, no bugs.

Your eval is interesting!

Often after the opening moves +1 more if I compare it with other engines. A bit tricky to find out ... bad opening line or not ... most interesting ist that your engine is clearly more right as not right. I am using FCT1 games for book optimations. Could be the reason that after 280 games 2 games lost up to move 50 only. I have to look and checked that in detail later. ICE can be very strong for book analyzes. For the moment Frank is happy with the new achievement.

After 120 iCE games, six games I replayed because I find out bad lines with your program.

I love such things!
Means if I can see completly new things.
And ... your engine have an own style.

Perfect for me!

Best
Frank
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by tpetzke »

Hi Frank,

iCEs eval is the result of an extensive automated tuning process using genetic algorithms. So its eval is somehow evolved and the absolute values it reports end up being higher than those of other engines, so it is a bit more optimistic or pessimistic than other engines.

So if iCE gives a score of +1 in a game its chance for actually winning the game is lower than those of other engines when they give a +1. I thought about scaling the display score down (just divide it by 2 or so) to be more comparable with other engines but this did not make it in this release. Maybe I do it in the next. But I don't do releases to often, so it will take a while for sure.
Thomas...

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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by Frank Quisinsky »

Hi Thomas,

thanks for your explanation.

No, no ... no changes here please!
All is wonderful ...

Best
Frank
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by ThatsIt »

Hi !

Under Shredder-Classic i get very often:

Engine 'iCE 2.0 v2240 x64': UCI implementation fault:
illegal end of ponder search!

and have freezes, also very often.

I use the following configuration:


[ENGINE]
Name=iCE 2.0 v2240 x64
Author=Thomas Petzke
Filename=D:\DeepShredder11UCI\iCE20v2240x64\ice2-x64-modern.exe
[OPTIONS]
BookName=<empty>

Any idea ?

Best wishes,
G.S.
(CEGT team)
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by tpetzke »

Hi, I don't have the Shredder GUI so I can't comment how iCE behaves in it. Under Arena I haven't seen any freezes but I admit I don't play to many games with ponder on.

Do you have a UCI log file where I can see what commands iCE got and what it responded. Then I can try to figure out what's going on.

Thomas...
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by ThatsIt »

Hi !

Wolfgang Battig (CEGT) has no problem under Arena too !

I will try to send you a logfile tomorrow.

Which eMail should i use ?

Best wishes,
G.S.
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Re: FCT1: iCE 2.0 v2240 POP x64 is still running ...

Post by tpetzke »

Hi Gerhard,

thanks. You can sent it to

thomas@fam-petzke.de

I'll have a look.

Thomas...
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