Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Season 1

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Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Season 1

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TCEC - ELITE MATCH - SEASON 1

http://www.tcec-chess.org/elite_match.php

STARTS FRIDAY JANUARY 28TH @ 17:00 GMT

Official discussion thread: http://www.tcec-chess.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3 NB: You need to be registered in order to participate or view the discussion on the official site.
For live chat please visit http://chessbomb.com/ NB: Don't pay too much attention to their built-in computer analysis since it's running multi pv which slows it down considerably.


Participants:

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   #   Engine            Pts      SB    Ho Ry
   1 Houdini 1.5a        0.0     00.00  -- XX
   1 Rybka 4.0           0.0     00.00  XX --
Note: Engine updates are allowed only until the match starts.


Info:
CPU: Intel Core i7 980x @ 4272 MHz
MB: Asus Rampage III Gene
RAM: 12 GB Corsair
OS: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Match length: 40 games (20 openings + 20 reversed openings).
Openings: Randomly selected from the new TCEC main opening PGN consisting of 9106 openings. All openings are fixed to 10 moves and analyzed by a top engine for approximately 24 seconds.
Threads: Up to 6 per engine.


Time Control:
150 minutes + 30 seconds added per move for the whole game.


Graphical User Interface:
Type: ChessGUI
Resign: +/- 6.50 eval for 3 moves in a row (both engines)
Draw: An eval of +0.05/-0.05 for 5 moves in a row (both engines - only possible at move 30 or later)
If there is a pawn advance, or a capture by any kind, this draw counter will reset
Ponder: Off
Hash: Max 4096 MB per engine
Nalimov tablebases: 3-4-5 men
Gaviota tablebases: 3-4-5 men
Cache: 256 MB

For complete information on the rules and hardware, see the Information page.


Misc:
This is the last TCEC event for Season 1. After the match finishes there will be a break then Season 2 will kick off.
For news and updates check the News Forum regularly.
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

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Friday 17.00 gmt?
A long time to wait!
Anyway, maybe Houdini was tuned against Rybka 4, so even if it does do very well, i wonder if it might not be as honest as in the recent tcec tournament in which it must not have been tuned against all of them in the same way, and in that tournament, Houdini, JUST ABOUT came first with
24 to Rybkas 23.
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

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S.Taylor wrote:Friday 17.00 gmt?
A long time to wait!
Anyway, maybe Houdini was tuned against Rybka 4, so even if it does do very well, i wonder if it might not be as honest as in the recent tcec tournament in which it must not have been tuned against all of them in the same way, and in that tournament, Houdini, JUST ABOUT came first with 24 to Rybkas 23.
There is no data that suggests that Houdini 1.5 scores particularly well against Rybka 4.
Compare:
- In the TCEC Division I Houdini scored 9.5/14 (+5 =9 -0) and Rybka scored 8.5/14 (+6 =5 -3), which translates to a TPR difference of nearly +50 Elo in favor of Houdini.
- In the long TC matches between the two engines as reported by Paul Watson, Ingo Bauer, Sedat Canbaz and Pal Larkin, the results varied between +30 and +70 Elo difference in favor of Houdini.

Looking forward to the Elite Match, hopefully we'll see some real fighting chess!

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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

Post by Laskos »

For people involved in betting :) :

After N games the probability that Houdini leads is

100% - 50%*(0.89^(N^0.82))

After 6 games it's 70%, after 10 games 77%, after 20 87%, and after all 40 games 95%.

Rybka has 5% to win the Elite Match.
Enjoy the Games!

Kai
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

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The match has now started!
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

Post by Martin Thoresen »

GM Susan Polgar already following the Elite Match:

http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/

Best,
Martin
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

Post by Martin Thoresen »

For those that is wondering what is happening during game 14, well:

The webhost is upgrading their storage systems and this started around 00:00 CET and is expected to last 2-3 hours.

Unfortunately there's nothing I can do about that.

In any case, 2 hours have passed now so you can expect the website to be back very soon.

Best,
Martin
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

Post by S.Taylor »

I appologise for not having found this thread at one time when i was looking for it, and i am thankful for being redirected. But i am not saying this on the other thread i started, so as not to bring it to the top. And indeed, that one is a superflous thread and can be deleted.
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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

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First Houdini seems to crash Rybka, but now only boring draws...

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Re: Houdini-Rybka (150m + 30s) LIVE! - TCEC Elite Match Seas

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Jouni wrote:First Houdini seems to crash Rybka, but now only boring draws...

Jouni
In this kind of high-level match you can expect about 70% draws, it's quite inevitable but not necessarily boring.

Try game 17, which is a draw but one of the most amazing games I've ever seen.
Houdini sacrifices several pawns in a difficult position, at some point Rybka is 4 (FOUR) pawns ahead and Houdini plays the quiet move 36...Kh8!

[Event "TCEC - Elite Match - S1"]
[Site "http://www.tcec-chess.org"]
[Date "2011.02.01"]
[Round "17.1"]
[White "Rybka 4.0"]
[Black "Houdini 1.5a"]
[ECO "D02"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bf4 c5 4. e3 cxd4 5. exd4 g6 6. Bd3
Bg7 7. O-O O-O 8. c3 Nh5 9. Be3 Qc7 10. Na3 Nc6 11. Re1 a6
12. h3 Nf4 13. Bf1 Nh5 14. Nc2 Be6 15. a3 Na5 16. Nb4 Nc4
17. Qc1 Rad8 18. Nd3 Bf5 19. Nc5 Bc8 20. g4 Nf6 21. Bf4 Nd6
22. Qd1 e6 23. Ne5 Qe7 24. Bg2 Nfe4 25. Bxe4 dxe4 26. Nxe4
Nxe4 27. Rxe4 b6 28. Re3 Bb7 29. Qe2 Ba8 30. Qxa6 f6
31. Nc4 Qd7 32. Nxb6 Qc6 33. f3 e5 34. Bg3 f5 35. Bxe5 Bxe5
36. dxe5 Kh8 37. Rf1 fxg4 38. hxg4 Qc5 39. Nc4 Bd5 40. Qb6
Qxc4 41. Qd4 Qxd4 42. cxd4 Rf4 43. b4 Kg7 44. Kf2 Rdf8
45. Kg3 Rxd4 46. Rh1 Rdf4 47. Rf1 h5 48. e6 h4+ 49. Kxh4
Bxf3 50. Rg1 Rd4 51. e7 Rh8+ 52. Kg3 Bc6 53. Rge1 Re8
54. Kh4 Rd5 55. Rc3 Bd7 56. Re4 Bb5 57. Rf3 Bc6 58. Re6 Ba4
59. Re4 Bd1 60. Rc3 Kf7 61. Rce3 Ba4 62. Rf3+ Kg7 63. Rfe3
Bc2 64. Rc4 Bd3 65. Rc3 Bb5 66. Re4 Bd7 67. Rce3 Kf7
68. Rf3+ Kg8 69. Rfe3 g5+ 70. Kg3 Kf7 71. Rf3+ Kg7 72. Rfe3
Kg6 73. Rb3 Bb5 74. Rbe3 Ba4 75. Re6+ Kf7 76. R6e4 Kf6
77. Rf3+ Kg7 78. Rfe3 Bd7 79. Rf3 Rh8 80. Rc4 Rd1 81. b5
Bxb5 82. Rc5 Rg1+ 83. Kf2 Rf1+ 84. Kg2 Rxf3 85. Kxf3 Bd7
86. Rxg5+ Kf6 87. Kf4 Kxe7 88. Ke5 Re8 89. a4 Kf7+ 90. Kf4
Re1 91. Ra5 Rf1+ 92. Ke4 Bxg4 93. Rg5 Bd7 94. Ke5 Rd1
95. a5 Bc6 96. a6 Rd5+ 97. Kf4 Rd4+ 98. Ke5 Rd3 99. a7 Ba8
100. Rf5+ Ke7 101. Rg5 Rd5+ 102. Kf4 Rd8 103. Ra5 Rd4+
104. Ke3 1/2-1/2

Halfway the tournament the standing is 12-8.