Mate in 24

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Michael Diosi
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Mate in 24

Post by Michael Diosi »

Hi,


[d] 8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Ruzvelt MARTSVALASHVILI
Vestnik Chernobylya 1992
1° Mention d'Honneur
‡24 (7+10)


Have fun :) Yeah I know Chest solves this fast...
What do other engines say ?

Michael
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by Taner Altinsoy »

Both Deep Rybka 4 x64 and Houdini fail to find it. They think it's a dead draw. I'll give them some more time.
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by Houdini »

Houdini finds the mate in 24 around search depth 35, here's the main line:

36/70 +M24 1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3+

Should take less than 5 minutes even on a slow computer.
Very nice problem, by the way :).
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by Robert Flesher »

Houdini wrote:Houdini finds the mate in 24 around search depth 35, here's the main line:

36/70 +M24 1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3+

Should take less than 5 minutes even on a slow computer.
Very nice problem, by the way :).


Confirmed !

New game
8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Analysis by Houdini 1.03a x64 POPCNT 4_CPU:

1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 11/11 00:00:00
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 13/15 00:00:00
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 13/15 00:00:00 9kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 13/15 00:00:00 9kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 13/15 00:00:00 9kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 13/15 00:00:00 9kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 14/15 00:00:00 19kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 14/15 00:00:00 19kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 14/15 00:00:00 19kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 14/15 00:00:00 19kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 14/15 00:00:00 19kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 15/21 00:00:00 34kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 16/23 00:00:00 60kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 17/24 00:00:00 102kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 18/27 00:00:00 168kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 19/28 00:00:00 282kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 20/33 00:00:00 467kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 21/33 00:00:00 741kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 22/33 00:00:00 1107kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 23/33 00:00:00 1817kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 24/44 00:00:00 2984kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 25/44 00:00:00 4358kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 26/44 00:00:00 6853kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 27/51 00:00:01 10316kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 28/51 00:00:02 16530kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 29/51 00:00:03 25062kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 30/54 00:00:05 37589kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 31/61 00:00:07 53176kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 32/62 00:00:11 80214kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 33/62 00:00:18 126282kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 34/65 00:00:27 182291kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 35/65 00:00:43 287912kN
1.e4 Kg1 2.Bc5+ Kg2 3.Bd6 Kg1
= (0.00) Depth: 36/71 00:01:14 494460kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
= (0.04) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601926kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
= (0.14) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601928kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
² (0.35) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601931kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
± (1.12) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601933kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (4.05) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601935kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (11.77) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 601937kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 36/71 00:01:30 605025kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 37/71 00:01:32 612306kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 38/71 00:01:33 622666kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 39/71 00:01:35 640937kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 40/71 00:01:39 668342kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 41/71 00:01:47 718985kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 42/71 00:01:59 808910kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 43/71 00:02:19 970750kN
1.Bb8 Kg1 2.Ba7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2
+- (#24) Depth: 44/71 00:02:52 1232726kN

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Re: Mate in 24

Post by peter »

8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Analysis by Movei00_8_438:

1.Lc5
= (0.00) Tiefe: 6 00:00:00 2kN
...
1.Lc5
= (0.00) Tiefe: 23 00:03:37 251mN
1.Lb8
= (0.01) Tiefe: 23 00:05:18 350mN
1.Lb8 Kg1 2.La7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+
= (0.01) Tiefe: 23 00:05:23 357mN
1.Lb8 Kg1 2.La7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+
= (0.01) Tiefe: 23 00:06:12 406mN
1.Lb8 Kg1 2.La7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Tb6
= (0.01) Tiefe: 24 00:06:21 416mN
...
1.Lb8 Kg1 2.La7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Tb6 Kg1 20.Td6+ Kg2 21.Td4 Kg1 22.Td2+
= (0.00) Tiefe: 25 00:24:56 1495mN
1.Lb8
+/= (0.30) Tiefe: 26 00:24:56 1495mN
1.Lb8
+/- (1.00) Tiefe: 26 00:24:56 1495mN
1.Lb8 Kg1 2.La7+ Kg2 3.e3 Kg1 4.e4+ Kg2 5.Kd4 Kg1 6.Kd5+ Kg2 7.Kc5 Kg1 8.Kc6+ Kg2 9.Kb6 Kg1 10.Kxa6+ Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Tb6 Kg1 20.Td6+ Kg2 21.Td4 Kg1 22.Td3+ Kg2 23.Te3 Kg1 24.Txg3#
-+ (-#2719) Tiefe: 26 00:25:24 1533mN
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by mhalstern »

I gave this to stockfish 1.9 for 40 minutes without it being solved. It got to ply 100 after 46 seconds, giving Bc5 a score of 0.00. 40 minutes later, it was cycling through , looking at Rf3. I gave up.
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by beachknight »

RL also failed in ten minutes:

5: New game
8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Analysis by Robbolito TA04 analyse x64:

1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 6/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 7/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 8/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 9/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 10/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 11/10 00:00:00 0kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 12/10 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 13/10 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 14/10 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 15/10 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 16/10 00:00:00 1kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 17/10 00:00:00 2kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 18/10 00:00:00 3kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 19/10 00:00:00 4kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 20/11 00:00:00 6kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 21/11 00:00:00 7kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 22/11 00:00:00 9kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 23/13 00:00:00 10kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 24/13 00:00:00 14kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 25/13 00:00:00 24kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 26/13 00:00:00 32kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 27/13 00:00:00 47kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 28/14 00:00:00 63kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 29/15 00:00:00 74kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 30/15 00:00:00 90kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 31/15 00:00:00 104kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 32/15 00:00:00 125kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 33/21 00:00:00 150kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 34/21 00:00:00 180kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 35/23 00:00:00 235kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 36/25 00:00:00 333kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 37/26 00:00:00 391kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 38/26 00:00:00 499kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 39/27 00:00:00 652kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 40/30 00:00:00 749kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 41/30 00:00:00 879kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 42/30 00:00:00 981kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 43/30 00:00:00 1138kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 44/30 00:00:00 1452kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 45/30 00:00:00 1535kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 46/31 00:00:01 1926kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 47/35 00:00:01 2448kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 48/35 00:00:01 2628kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 49/36 00:00:01 3479kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 50/36 00:00:02 4247kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 51/41 00:00:02 5034kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 52/44 00:00:03 6246kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 53/55 00:00:04 7910kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 54/55 00:00:05 8870kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 55/55 00:00:05 9573kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 56/55 00:00:06 10127kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 57/56 00:00:08 13268kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 58/59 00:00:10 17121kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 59/59 00:00:11 18834kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 60/67 00:00:15 25398kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 61/69 00:00:27 45018kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 62/69 00:00:28 46065kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 63/69 00:00:32 50992kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 64/69 00:00:42 66505kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 65/69 00:00:44 68248kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 66/73 00:01:22 129mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 67/73 00:01:40 157mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 68/74 00:02:54 274mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 69/74 00:03:24 319mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 70/75 00:04:02 377mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 71/82 00:07:07 677mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 72/82 00:09:10 873mN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 73/82 00:09:41 917mN

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Re: Mate in 24

Post by beachknight »

Nor IvanHoe finds in ten minutes:

8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Analysis by IvanHoe T0.4 beta2 x64:

1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:00:10 34kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:00:10 34kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:00:10 46kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 24 00:00:10 46kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 24 00:00:10 76kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 25 00:00:10 76kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 25 00:00:10 124kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 26 00:00:10 124kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 26 00:00:10 189kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 27 00:00:10 189kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 27 00:00:10 270kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 28 00:00:10 270kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 28 00:00:10 386kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 29 00:00:10 386kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 29 00:00:10 544kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 30 00:00:10 544kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 30 00:00:10 785kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 31 00:00:10 785kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 31 00:00:10 1169kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 32 00:00:10 1169kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 32 00:00:10 1789kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:00:10 1789kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:00:10 2675kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:00:10 2675kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:00:10 4001kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:00:10 4001kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:00:11 5889kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 36 00:00:11 5889kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 36 00:00:11 8590kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 37 00:00:11 8590kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 37 00:00:12 12789kN, tb=5
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 38 00:00:12 12789kN, tb=5
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 38 00:00:14 19232kN, tb=12
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 39 00:00:14 19232kN, tb=12
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 39 00:00:15 28427kN, tb=53
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 40 00:00:15 28427kN, tb=53
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 40 00:00:18 43148kN, tb=462
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 41 00:00:18 43148kN, tb=462
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 41 00:00:23 67181kN, tb=1157
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 42 00:00:23 67181kN, tb=1157
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 42 00:00:30 103mN, tb=4820
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 43 00:00:30 103mN, tb=4820
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 43 00:00:40 159mN, tb=12161
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 44 00:00:40 159mN, tb=12161
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 44 00:00:57 247mN, tb=28584
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 45 00:00:57 247mN, tb=28584
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 45 00:01:21 375mN, tb=66973
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 46 00:01:21 375mN, tb=66973
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 46 00:02:06 613mN, tb=147932
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 47 00:02:06 613mN, tb=147932
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 47 00:03:23 1022mN, tb=336608
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 48 00:03:23 1022mN, tb=336608
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 48 00:05:35 1735mN, tb=792254
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 49 00:05:35 1735mN, tb=792254
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 49 00:11:41 3684mN, tb=7109760
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 50 00:11:41 3684mN, tb=7109760

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Only after 10th move Kxa6, it realizes the mate in 24:

4: New game
8/B7/K4R2/Pp6/1Pp1P1pp/2P3pq/7p/6kb b - - 0 1

Analysis by IvanHoe T0.4 beta2 x64 3cpu + RTBs:


10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 15 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 15 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 16 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 16 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 17 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 17 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 18 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 18 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 19 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 19 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 20 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 20 00:00:00 0kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 21 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 21 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 22 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 23 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 24 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 24 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 25 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 25 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 26 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 26 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 27 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 27 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 28 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 28 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 29 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 29 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 30 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 30 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 31 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 31 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 32 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 32 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 33 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 34 00:00:00 1kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:00:00 2kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 35 00:00:00 2kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 36 00:00:00 3kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.00) Depth: 36 00:00:00 3kN
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.08 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8545kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
= (0.16 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8545kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+/= (0.28 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8545kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+/= (0.46 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8545kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+/- (0.73 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8545kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+/- (1.13 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (1.73 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (2.63 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (3.98 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (6.00 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (9.03 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (13.57 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (20.38 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (30.59 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (45.90 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (68.86 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (103.30 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (154.96 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kxb5
+- (232.45 --) Depth: 37 00:00:02 8546kN, tb=39859
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 37 00:00:02 11679kN, tb=39869
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 37 00:00:02 11679kN, tb=39869
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 38 00:00:03 14844kN, tb=39886
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 38 00:00:03 14844kN, tb=39886
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 39 00:00:03 19869kN, tb=39970
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 39 00:00:03 19869kN, tb=39970
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 40 00:00:04 27552kN, tb=40241
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 40 00:00:04 27552kN, tb=40241
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 41 00:00:06 39259kN, tb=40946
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 41 00:00:06 39259kN, tb=40946
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 42 00:00:09 58841kN, tb=44329
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 42 00:00:09 58841kN, tb=44329
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 43 00:00:13 86360kN, tb=51997
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 43 00:00:13 86360kN, tb=51997
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 44 00:00:19 130mN, tb=74575
10...Kg2 11.Kb6 Kg1 12.Kxb5+ Kg2 13.Kc5 Kg1 14.Kxc4+ Kg2 15.Kd4 Kg1 16.Kd3+ Kg2 17.Ke3 Kg1 18.Ke2+ Kg2 19.Rb6 Kg1 20.Rd6+ Kg2 21.Rd4 Kg1 22.Rd3+ Kg2 23.Re3 Kg1 24.Rxg3#
+- (#14) Depth: 44 00:00:19 130mN, tb=74575

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beachknight
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by beachknight »

nor DF12 in twenty minutes:

4: New game
8/8/p2B1R2/Pp2K3/1Pp3pp/2P3pq/4P1kp/7b w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz 12 3cpu + 345Ns:


1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 51 00:00:15 50369kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 52 00:00:18 63697kN
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 53 00:00:22 78474kN, tb=2
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 54 00:00:27 102mN, tb=37
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 55 00:00:34 129mN, tb=93
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 56 00:00:46 178mN, tb=427
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 57 00:01:02 252mN, tb=488
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 58 00:01:23 353mN, tb=583
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 59 00:01:47 472mN, tb=863
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 60 00:02:26 689mN, tb=1138
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 61 00:04:14 1318mN, tb=3247
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 62 00:07:16 2383mN, tb=8974
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 63 00:11:50 3981mN, tb=22469
1.Bc5
= (0.00) Depth: 63/80 00:21:34 7471mN, tb=49733

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Tom Barrister
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Re: Mate in 24

Post by Tom Barrister »

Michael Diosi wrote: I know Chest solves this fast...

http://www.playwitharena.com
I'm not a programmer, and I've only been using the UCI engines for a couple of months, so I don't understand all the parameters.

I let Chest have a go with this problem at the default settings (except setting Hash=128) and waited 10 minutes, without a solution or any analysis. The only way I can get it to work is to set MaxMoves=1, after which it finds the solution in a tenth of a second. However, setting MaxMoves=1 assumes that I know that Black only has one move every turn with the main line. Since 10+ minutes isn't what I consider "fast", that means that I'm probably doing something wrong with this engine.

Is there a post somewhere that explains how to use Chest efficiently, or can somebody explain what I need to do to get it to solve the long mates?