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Re: And We Have the Mega Freeware Beginning Tonight!!

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Ajedrecista wrote:Hi George!
geots wrote:Group 1
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1.Strelka 5.5 64-bit
2.Critter 1.6a 64-bit
3.Stockfish 2.2.2 64-bit
4.IvanHoe 46h 64-bit
5.RobboLito 0.10 64-bit
6.DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit
7.Bouquet 1.4 64-bit
8.Gull II b2 64-bit
I searched in CCRL 40/40 (where Strelka 5.5 64-bit has a rating of 3250) and I did not find Robbolito! How is it? I wanted to know the rating of each engine, for calculate the probability of each engine of win in this group and post here those probabilities, but Robbo is not there...

If I suppose that RobboLito 0.10 64-bit has the same rating as IvanHoe 46h 64-bit (it is only a supposition) then:

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1.Strelka 5.5 64-bit     (3250) ~ 17.61 %
2.Critter 1.6a 64-bit    (3225) ~ 15.25 %
3.Stockfish 2.2.2 64-bit (3219) ~ 14.73 %
4.IvanHoe 46h 64-bit     (3202) ~ 13.36 %
5.RobboLito 0.10 64-bit  (3202) ~ 13.36 %
6.DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit   (3172) ~ 11.24 %
7.Bouquet 1.4 64-bit     (3096) ~  7.26 %
8.Gull II b2 64-bit      (3094) ~  7.18 %
I hope that I copied well each rating; probabilities are rounded up to 0.01% and due to these roundings, the sum of probabilities is 99.99% instead of the correct 100%. I wrote a very short programme in Fortran for doing the calculations; the method is here, in Elo-Rating & Win-Probability section:

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This tournament is a huge task! Please have patience and keep up your good work... Thank you very much and have good luck! I stay tuned.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

You are correct. RobboLito is not being tested here, so any other rating would not give me anything to rely on. But trust me, it is mixed right in the middle of the other 7. Last match I ran, it beat Stockfish 2.2.2 by a couple games. Very close. I would be floored if there was much diff. between it and IH 46h. But remember, all games are on 1 core.


And just to add this- it won't be one of those deals where you hear nothing from me till it is over. There will be REGULAR updates, especially for any programmers interested- and those like you. It's fun, and it gives exposure to some people who work awful awful hard and a lot of people never hear about. To me- when you can just program an engine that loads and works- you are already a champion in my eyes.


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Re: And We Have the Mega Freeware Beginning Tonight!!

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geots wrote:
Ajedrecista wrote:Hi George!
geots wrote:Group 1
-------

1.Strelka 5.5 64-bit
2.Critter 1.6a 64-bit
3.Stockfish 2.2.2 64-bit
4.IvanHoe 46h 64-bit
5.RobboLito 0.10 64-bit
6.DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit
7.Bouquet 1.4 64-bit
8.Gull II b2 64-bit
I searched in CCRL 40/40 (where Strelka 5.5 64-bit has a rating of 3250) and I did not find Robbolito! How is it? I wanted to know the rating of each engine, for calculate the probability of each engine of win in this group and post here those probabilities, but Robbo is not there...

If I suppose that RobboLito 0.10 64-bit has the same rating as IvanHoe 46h 64-bit (it is only a supposition) then:

Code: Select all

1.Strelka 5.5 64-bit     (3250) ~ 17.61 %
2.Critter 1.6a 64-bit    (3225) ~ 15.25 %
3.Stockfish 2.2.2 64-bit (3219) ~ 14.73 %
4.IvanHoe 46h 64-bit     (3202) ~ 13.36 %
5.RobboLito 0.10 64-bit  (3202) ~ 13.36 %
6.DeepSaros 3.0 64-bit   (3172) ~ 11.24 %
7.Bouquet 1.4 64-bit     (3096) ~  7.26 %
8.Gull II b2 64-bit      (3094) ~  7.18 %
I hope that I copied well each rating; probabilities are rounded up to 0.01% and due to these roundings, the sum of probabilities is 99.99% instead of the correct 100%. I wrote a very short programme in Fortran for doing the calculations; the method is here, in Elo-Rating & Win-Probability section:

Image

This tournament is a huge task! Please have patience and keep up your good work... Thank you very much and have good luck! I stay tuned.

Regards from Spain.

Ajedrecista.

You are correct. RobboLito is not being tested here, so any other rating would not give me anything to rely on. But trust me, it is mixed right in the middle of the other 7. Last match I ran, it beat Stockfish 2.2.2 by a couple games. Very close. I would be floored if there was much diff. between it and IH 46h. But remember, all games are on 1 core.


Back later

george
according to my tests, and many other testers...Robbolito is somewhat stronger than Ivanhoe, Fire, Saros, Vitruvius, etc.
for ex:
http://chessblitz.site40.net/wordpress/?page_id=738

PS -
'Demon' is freeware (open-source) , and has been available from Chesslogik for several years now
http://www.chesslogik.com/
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Re: A Couple of Changes To Note!

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In Group 14, there are now 12 engines instead of 10. The 2 new entrants are Cupcake 1.0 and Dabbaba 6.52.

And of course there is still time to add the new version of GreKo. (After checking it out, of course)


I have Jim Ablett to thank for getting me a jet executable for Cupcake that allowed the program to load and play correctly.


Best,

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Re: Correcting An Engine Version's Name!

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There is no change here- merely correcting the engine name.

Scorpio 2.7 64-bit is in Group 3. Actually, that is a typo of sorts. The actual version playing is: Scorpio 2.75 SSE42 x64


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Re: And We Have Begun With Group 14 RR Underway!!

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This RR has begun!

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Re: Let Me Give Thanks Where Necessary At This Time

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Of course the programmers are the reason this tournament can even take place. But there are 2 special and very important thanks that I don't want to omit- without them this would not be possible.

1. Jim Ablett for his enduring help with a lot of new engines from new programmers who possibly don't quite understand yet what it takes to run properly in some guis. He has had more patience with me than one would think would be possible.

2. CCRL, because without their rating lists there is no possible chance this tournament could be as competitive as it will turn out to be. Each "group inclusion decision" was based on their ratings. A huge "thank-you" to each of you guys.

Now for the games to run!


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Re: A Couple More Changes To Note!

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Just a few more changes- but not something anyone has to concern themselves with. I just caught Greko 9.5 64-bit way up in a group in which it did not belong. It was easy to straighten out, as I made these changes:

Movei moved up one to Group 3.

Red Queen moved up one to Group 4.

Greko 9.5 64-bit dropped from Group 3 to Group 5.

(tho Greko version may end up being switched- still the right place now)


Sorry-

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Re: And We Have the Mega Freeware Beginning Tonight!!

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geots wrote: The other problem comes with some java engines, like Cupcake, that I just had no idea where to even start. Generally if I am not provided an excelsior jet exe- a java engine may not work on my system. (God knows I tried, Dan!)
Hi George,

For Windows use the .exe not the Java .jar file. It should be no different than any other Winboard engine.

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Re: And We Have the Mega Freeware Beginning Tonight!!

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Dan Honeycutt wrote:
geots wrote: The other problem comes with some java engines, like Cupcake, that I just had no idea where to even start. Generally if I am not provided an excelsior jet exe- a java engine may not work on my system. (God knows I tried, Dan!)
Hi George,

For Windows use the .exe not the Java .jar file. It should be no different than any other Winboard engine.

Best
Dan H.

The group with your engine has begun play. Jim got me a jet exe that works great! I will be posting every few rounds. I cannot post after every round with as many going at once as I will end up with.


Best,

george
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Re: And We Have the Mega Freeware Beginning Tonight!!

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geots wrote: The group with your engine has begun play. Jim got me a jet exe that works great! I will be posting every few rounds. I cannot post after every round with as many going at once as I will end up with.


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george
George,

Did the .exe I included (made with launch4j) not work?

Best
Dan H.