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Vinvin
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Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Vinvin »

(game in the end of the message)

[d]3Q4/8/5P2/8/4K3/6R1/5r1p/7k b - - 0 111

2 of the best engines in the world evaluate big advantage for white and me, a 2000 elo player, smell the draw with a crazy rook in 2 seconds ...
-> Re4+ 113. Kd2 Re2+ 114. Kc3 Rc2+ 115. Kb4 Rc4+ 116. Ka3 Ra4+ 117. Kb2 Ra2+ 118. Kb3 Rb2+ 119. Ka3
Ra2+ 120. Kb4 Ra4+ 121. Kb5 Rb4+ 122. Kc5 Rc4+ 123. Kb6 Rb4+ 124. Kc6 Rc4+ 125.
Kb7 Rb4+ 126. Kc7 Rc4+ 1/2-1/2

The crazy rook idea need to be improves in chess engines !

Is there engines who evaluate the position as a draw ?

[Event "3m + 0s, rated"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2008.02.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Arley, Rybka 2.3.2a mp"]
[Black "Bubble bridge, Zappa Mexico II"]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2621"]
[BlackElo "2641"]
[PlyCount "221"]
[EventDate "2008.02.03"]
[EventType "blitz"]
[TimeControl "180"]

1. h3 {B/0 0} f5 {B/0 0} 2. Nf3 {B/0 0} Nf6 {B/0 0} 3. d4 {B/0 0} Nc6 {B/0 0}
4. d5 {B/0 0} Nb4 {B/0 0} 5. c4 {B/0 0} e6 {B/0 0} 6. a3 {B/0 0} Na6 {B/0 0} 7.
dxe6 {B/0 0} Ne4 {0.34/11 5} 8. exd7+ {(Qd5) 0.25/12 6} Bxd7 {0.25/11 3} 9. Nc3
{0.31/12 4} Nxc3 {-0.09/12 1} 10. bxc3 {0.23/13 0} Bd6 {0.08/12 6} 11. Bg5 {
(g3) 0.22/13 6} Qc8 {0.00/13 6} 12. g3 {(e3) 0.19/14 8} O-O {-0.16/12 5} 13.
Bg2 {0.21/12 1} Nc5 {-0.14/12 6} 14. Be3 {(0-0) 0.16/13 0} Bc6 {0.11/12 9} 15.
O-O {0.17/14 1} f4 {0.09/12 1} 16. gxf4 {0.15/14 4} Ne6 {-0.08/12 0} 17. Nd4 {
0.16/12 1} Bxg2 {-0.25/13 2} 18. Kxg2 {-0.06/14 1} Bxf4 {-0.25/13 1} 19. Nxe6 {
-0.08/14 4} Qxe6 {-0.45/14 0} 20. Qd5 {-0.24/14 6} Rae8 {-0.57/15 0} 21. Bxf4 {
-0.27/14 4} Rxf4 {-0.57/14 0} 22. Qxb7 {(e3) -0.33/14 5} Qg6+ {-0.47/11 3} 23.
Kh1 {-0.06/13 4} Qe6 {-0.39/12 0} 24. Kg2 {(Qd5) 0.00/12 1} Rxc4 {-0.68/12 5}
25. Rad1 {-0.19/13 4} Rxc3 {-0.74/12 0} 26. e3 {-0.21/12 1} Rc5 {-0.73/12 3}
27. Rd4 {(Rc1) -0.20/13 1} Rg5+ {-0.74/11 3} 28. Kh2 {-0.25/13 1} Qe5+ {
-0.65/12 1} 29. Kh1 {-0.18/13 0} c5 {-0.65/12 2} 30. Rf4 {-0.29/13 4} Rf5 {
-0.60/12 0} 31. Rxf5 {(Rc1) -0.21/13 3} Qxf5 {-0.59/8 0} 32. Kg2 {
(Kg1) -0.21/12 0} c4 {-0.79/11 3} 33. Qxa7 {(Rd1) -0.19/14 3} Qd5+ {-1.02/11 5}
34. Kg1 {(Kh2) -0.07/11 1} Rc8 {-0.94/13 5} 35. Qa4 {(Rc1) -0.07/14 1} Qg5+ {
-0.89/13 4} 36. Kh2 {-0.01/16 10} Qf5 {-0.81/14 0} 37. Kg2 {-0.01/15 4} Qg6+ {
-0.83/13 0} 38. Kh2 {0.00/15 5} Qf5 {-0.74/13 1} 39. Kg2 {0.00/16 3} c3 {
-0.71/13 0} 40. Qb3+ {(Rc1) 0.00/13 2} Kf8 {-0.67/12 3} 41. Rc1 {0.00/14 1} c2
{-0.56/11 2} 42. a4 {0.02/9 0} Qe4+ {-0.14/10 4} 43. Kh2 {0.00/14 0} Rc4 {
-0.37/10 3} 44. a5 {0.00/12 2} Qe5+ {0.00/11 0} 45. Kg1 {(f4) 0.00/13 0} Qd5 {
-0.04/12 6} 46. Qb2 {0.00/15 2} Qd6 {0.00/11 0} 47. Kf1 {0.00/11 0} Qd2 {
0.00/11 1} 48. Qa3+ {(a6) 0.00/14 3} Ke8 {0.00/12 2} 49. Qb2 {(a6) 0.00/15 2}
Rc6 {0.00/10 3} 50. Qb8+ {0.00/16 3} Kd7 {0.00/12 0} 51. Qb7+ {0.00/15 0} Rc7 {
0.00/12 3} 52. Qb2 {0.00/12 0} Kc8 {0.00/12 2} 53. Kg2 {(a6) 0.00/13 1} Qd5+ {
-0.44/10 2} 54. Kg3 {(Kh2) 0.00/14 1} Qd6+ {-0.38/10 2} 55. Kg2 {0.00/15 1}
Qg6+ {-0.30/11 0} 56. Kh1 {(Kf1) 0.00/15 1} Qe6 {-0.38/11 1} 57. Kg2 {0.00/13 0
} Qc4 {-0.33/11 1} 58. Qd4 {(Kg3) 0.22/11 1} Qc6+ {-0.30/10 3} 59. Kg3 {
(Kh2) 0.16/11 1} Rf7 {-0.31/11 3} 60. Qg4+ {0.27/11 1} Kb8 {-0.31/12 1} 61. f4
{(Qe2) 0.32/12 2} Qc4 {-0.20/10 2} 62. Qh5 {(f5) 0.26/12 2} Rc7 {-0.41/10 1}
63. Qe8+ {0.26/13 0} Ka7 {-0.41/12 2} 64. Qd8 {(Qe5) 0.25/14 3} h5 {-0.17/11 2}
65. Kf2 {0.27/10 1} h4 {-0.26/11 0} 66. Qd6 {0.31/12 0} Rc6 {0.00/11 2} 67.
Qd7+ {(Qe7+) 0.14/13 0} Rc7 {0.00/13 1} 68. Qd8 {(Qd6) 0.14/13 2} Rc8 {
0.00/11 1} 69. Qb6+ {(Qd7+) 0.38/11 1} Ka8 {0.00/9 0} 70. Qg6 {0.52/13 0} Rc7 {
0.00/13 0} 71. Kf3 {(Qd6) 0.52/13 0} Ka7 {0.10/12 1} 72. Qb6+ {0.67/12 1} Ka8 {
0.01/12 0} 73. Qd4 {0.57/13 0} Qa6 {0.02/12 3} 74. Qe4+ {(Qd5+) 0.67/11 1} Ka7
{0.02/12 2} 75. Kf2 {(Qd4+) 0.49/13 2} Qc8 {0.00/11 1} 76. Qd4+ {(f5) 0.61/12 0
} Ka8 {0.00/12 1} 77. Qe5 {(Qd5+) 0.36/12 0} g6 {0.00/11 1} 78. Ke2 {
(Qe4+) 0.72/11 1} Qa6+ {0.00/11 1} 79. Kf3 {0.67/14 0} Qc8 {0.00/12 0} 80. Kf2
{(Ke2) 0.67/13 0} Rc6 {0.00/11 1} 81. Qd5 {(Ke2) 0.72/12 2} Kb8 {0.22/11 2} 82.
a6 {(e4) 0.87/12 1} Rc5 {0.70/10 2} 83. a7+ {(Qb3+) 0.91/11 1} Kxa7 {1.38/11 1}
84. Qa2+ {0.91/13 0} Kb6 {1.38/12 0} 85. Qb3+ {1.67/14 2} Ka6 {1.39/12 0} 86.
Ra1+ {(Qa4+) 1.68/14 1} Ra5 {0.34/8 0} 87. Qd3+ {1.68/15 0} Kb6 {1.76/11 1} 88.
Qxg6+ {1.76/15 1} Qc6 {1.84/13 0} 89. Qxc6+ {1.59/14 0} Kxc6 {1.84/13 0} 90.
Rc1 {1.41/17 0} Ra2 {1.92/15 0} 91. Ke1 {(Ke2) 1.43/17 2} Kd5 {1.92/14 1} 92.
Kd2 {1.56/18 1} Ke4 {1.79/14 1} 93. Rxc2 {1.59/15 1} Ra1 {1.79/15 0} 94. Rc4+ {
1.73/14 1} Kf5 {2.09/14 0} 95. Rc5+ {1.78/13 1} Ke4 {2.09/14 0} 96. Re5+ {
1.94/14 0} Kf3 {1.75/14 0} 97. f5 {1.99/15 1} Ra2+ {1.75/14 1} 98. Kd3 {
2.13/16 1} Kg3 {2.83/13 0} 99. f6 {2.39/10 0} Rf2 {3.14/12 0} 100. Rg5+ {
4.42/16 1} Kxh3 {3.65/13 0} 101. Rg6 {4.42/16 0} Kh2 {3.65/12 0} 102. e4 {
4.94/15 1} Rf3+ {4.08/14 0} 103. Kc4 {4.94/15 1} h3 {5.03/13 1} 104. e5 {
4.94/13 0} Rf4+ {5.03/12 0} 105. Kd5 {5.09/10 0} Kh1 {5.76/12 0} 106. e6 {
5.09/10 0} Rf5+ {9.22/11 1} 107. Ke4 {(Kd6) 7.44/7 0} Rf2 {5.66/10 1} 108. e7 {
(f7) 7.81/5 0} Rf1 {9.22/10 1} 109. Rg3 {(Kd5) 13.23/6 0} h2 {12.77/9 0} 110.
e8=Q {11.60/4 0} Rf2 {14.91/9 1} 111. Qd8 {(Qh5) Bubble bridge,Zappa Mexico II
resigns (Lag: Av=0.26s, max=0.6s) 14.30/6 0} 1-0
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Vinvin »

Toga II 1.4 beta5c is even worse here and evaluate as a mate :(

Arley,R - Bubble bridge,Z, 3m + 0s, rated blitz 2008
3Q4/8/5P2/8/4K3/6R1/5r1p/7k b - - 0 1

Analysis by Toga II 1.4 beta5c:
...
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg1 116.Tg8+ Rh1 117.Th8 Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.Re3 Rg2
+- (11.51) Profondeur: 9/37 00:00:00 29kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg1 116.Tg8+ Rh1 117.Th8 Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.Re3 Rg2 121.Re4
+- (11.48) Profondeur: 10/37 00:00:01 91kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg1 116.Tg8+ Rh1 117.Th8 Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.Re3 Rg2 121.Rf4 Rf2
+- (11.44) Profondeur: 11/37 00:00:01 107kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg1 116.Tg8+ Rh1 117.Th8 Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.Re3 Rg2 121.Rf4 Rf2 122.Re5
+- (11.41) Profondeur: 12/37 00:00:01 143kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg1 116.Re3 Rg2 117.Td1 Rg3 118.f7 Rg4 119.f8D Rg5 120.Dg7+ Rf5 121.Td5+ Re6 122.Dd7+ Rf6 123.Tf5+ Rg6 124.Df7+ Rh6 125.Th5#
+- (#14) Profondeur: 13/46 00:00:01 820kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Te1+ Rd5 122.Df5+ Rd6 123.Te6+ Rd7 124.Df7+ Rc8 125.Te8#
+- (#14) Profondeur: 14/46 00:00:02 2560kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Te1+ Rd5 122.Df5+ Rd6 123.Te6+ Rd7 124.Df7+ Rc8 125.Te8#
+- (#14) Profondeur: 15/46 00:00:03 3385kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 16/46 00:00:05 5640kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 17/46 00:00:08 9680kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 18/46 00:00:15 17840kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 19/46 00:00:29 37360kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 20/46 00:00:55 72180kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg3 118.f7 h1T 119.Txh1 Rf4 120.f8D+ Re5 121.Rc3 Rd5 122.Df6 Re4 123.Te1+ Rd5 124.Te5#
+- (#13) Profondeur: 21/46 00:01:44 150mN

No new line after 30 minutes of thinking (AMD 4200+ 2 threads). That means TogaII sees something but I don't want to wait some hours ...
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Ovyron »

Well, it doesn't know that the position is draw until it sees the pawn capture, but Pro Deo at least plays the crazy rook, so it would have drawn Rybka:

[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[FEN "3Q4/8/5P2/8/4K3/6R1/5r1p/7k b - - 0 1"]

1... Rf4+ 2. Ke3 Re4+ 3. Kd2 Re2+ 4. Kc3 Rc2+ 5. Kb4 Rc4+ 6. Kb3 Rb4+ 7.
Ka2 Rb2+ 8. Ka3 Ra2+ 9. Kb4 Ra4+ 10. Kc3 Ra3+ 11. Kd2 Ra2+ 12. Ke3 Ra3+ 13.
Kf4 Ra4+ 14. Kf3 Ra3+ 15. Kg4 Ra4+ 16. Kg5 Rg4+ 17. Kf5 Rf4+ 18. Ke6 Rxf6+
19. Ke5 Re6+ 20. Kf4 Re4+ 21. Kf3 Re3+ 22. Kg4 Re4+ 23. Kf5 Re5+ 24. Kf6
Rf5+ 25. Kg6 Rg5+ 26. Kf7 Rf5+ 27. Kg7 Rg5+ 28. Kf8 Rg8+ 29. Ke7 Rxd8 30.
Kxd8
1/2-1/2
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Vinvin »

bright-0.2c needs 3min20sec to evaluate as a draw ! At least 1 engine who find it !!

Arley,R - Bubble bridge,Z, 3m + 0s, rated blitz 2008
3Q4/8/5P2/8/4K3/6R1/5r1p/7k b - - 0 1

Analysis by bright-0.2c:
...
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Rc4 Tc2+ 117.Tc3
+- (10.20) Profondeur: 6/24 00:00:00 15kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rc5
+- (10.26) Profondeur: 7/24 00:00:01 20kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Ta5+ 119.Rc6
+- (10.20) Profondeur: 8/24 00:00:01 35kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.f8D
+- (9.94) Profondeur: 9/27 00:00:01 55kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Td4+ 114.Td3 Txd8 115.Txd8 Rg2 116.Tg8+ Rh3 117.Th8+ Rg2 118.f7 h1D 119.Txh1 Rxh1 120.f8D
+- (9.94) Profondeur: 10/28 00:00:01 87kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Ta5+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc5 Tc4+ 121.Rb6 Tc6+ 122.Rb7
+- (9.92) Profondeur: 11/29 00:00:01 169kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Ta5+ 119.Rc4 Tc5+ 120.Rb3 Tb5+ 121.Ra3 Ta5+ 122.Rb2 Tb5+ 123.Tb3
+- (9.82) Profondeur: 12/43 00:00:02 294kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Ta5+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc5 Ta5+ 121.Rb6 Tb5+ 122.Rc6 Tb6+ 123.Rc7 Tb7+ 124.Rc8
+- (9.69) Profondeur: 13/43 00:00:02 587kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Tb4+ 119.Rc5 Tb5+ 120.Rd4 Tb4+ 121.Re5 Te4+ 122.Rf5 Tf4+ 123.Re6 Txf6+ 124.Re5 Te6+ 125.Rd5
+- (8.56) Profondeur: 14/43 00:00:02 1251kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb5 Tb4+ 119.Rc5 Tb5+ 120.Rd4 Tb4+ 121.Re5 Te4+ 122.Rf5 Tf4+ 123.Re6 Txf6+ 124.Re5 Te6+ 125.Rf5 Tf6+ 126.Re4 Te6+ 127.Rf4
+- (8.52) Profondeur: 15/43 00:00:03 2229kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Ta3+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc3 Ta3+ 121.Rd4 Txg3 122.f7 Rg1 123.Dh4 Tf3 124.Dg4+ Rf2 125.Dxf3+ Rxf3 126.f8D+ Rg2
+- (7.53) Profondeur: 16/53 00:00:03 4461kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Ta3+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc5 Ta5+ 121.Rd4 Ta4+ 122.Re5 Te4+ 123.Rf5 Tf4+ 124.Re6 Txf6+ 125.Re5 Te6+ 126.Rf5 Te5+ 127.Rf6
+- (8.19) Profondeur: 17/53 00:00:05 8231kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Ta3+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc3 Tc4+ 121.Rd2 Tc2+ 122.Re3 Te2+ 123.Rf3 Te3+ 124.Rf4 Te4+ 125.Rf5 Tf4+ 126.Re6 Txf6+ 127.Re5
+- (8.26) Profondeur: 18/59 00:00:12 20555kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Tb4+ 119.Rc3 Tc4+ 120.Rd2 Tc2+ 121.Re3 Te2+ 122.Rf4 Te4+ 123.Rg5 Tg4+ 124.Rf5 Tg5+ 125.Re6 Txg3 126.Dd1+ Rg2 127.De2+
+- (4.61) Profondeur: 19/59 00:00:22 37875kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Tb4+ 119.Rc3 Tc4+ 120.Rd2 Tc2+ 121.Re3 Te2+ 122.Rf4 Te4+ 123.Rf5 Tf4+ 124.Rg6 Tg4+ 125.Rf7 Tg7+ 126.Re6 Te7+ 127.Rd5
= (0.18) Profondeur: 20/59 00:00:31 54228kN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Tb4+ 119.Rc3 Tc4+ 120.Rd2 Tc2+ 121.Re3 Tc3+ 122.Rf4 Tc4+ 123.Rf3 Tf4+ 124.Re2 Tf2+ 125.Re3 Te2+ 126.Rf4 Te4+ 127.Rf5
= (0.18) Profondeur: 21/61 00:00:59 106mN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Tb4+ 119.Rc3 Tc4+ 120.Rd2 Tc2+ 121.Re3 Te2+ 122.Rf3 Tf2+ 123.Rg4 Tf4+ 124.Rh5 Th4+ 125.Rg6 Tg4+ 126.Rf5 Tf4+ 127.Re6
² (0.28) Profondeur: 22/61 00:01:40 189mN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Ra3 Ta2+ 117.Rb4 Ta4+ 118.Rb3 Ta3+ 119.Rc4 Ta4+ 120.Rc3 Ta3+ 121.Rd4 Ta4+ 122.Rc5 Tc4+ 123.Rxc4
= (0.00) Profondeur: 23/69 00:03:20 391mN
111...Tf4+ 112.Re3 Te4+ 113.Rd2 Te2+ 114.Rc3 Tc2+ 115.Rb3 Tb2+ 116.Rxb2
= (0.00) Profondeur: 24/69 00:05:17 668mN
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

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Ktulu 7.5
 11.00	 0:01 	-11.20	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb5 Rb4+ 9.Ka5 Ra4+ 10.Kb6 Rb4+ 11.Kc5 Rc4+ 12.Kb6 Rb4+ (1.672.321) 955
 12.01	 0:02 	-10.90++	1...Rf4+ (2.076.614) 971
 12.01	 0:02 	-6.24 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kc3 Rc4+ 9.Kd2 Rc2+ 10.Ke3 Re2+ 11.Kf4 Re4+ 12.Kf5 Rf4+ (2.767.900) 985
 13.01	 0:03 	-6.24 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ (3.206.315) 1001
 14.01	 0:04 	-6.24 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (4.497.233) 1024
 15.01	 0:07 	-5.94++	1...Rf4+ (7.130.288) 1022
 15.01	 0:08 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (9.074.390) 1053
 16.01	 0:09 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (10.442.717) 1059
 17.01	 0:12 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (13.414.830) 1049
 18.01	 0:16 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (17.713.503) 1051
 19.01	 0:27 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (28.249.145) 1022
 20.01	 0:39 	 0.00 	1...Rf4+ 2.Ke3 Re4+ 3.Kd2 Re2+ 4.Kc3 Rc2+ 5.Kb3 Rb2+ 6.Ka3 Ra2+ 7.Kb4 Ra4+ 8.Kb3 Ra3+ 9.Kc4 Ra4+ 10.Kc3 Rc4+ 11.Kd2 Rc2+ 12.Ke3 Re2+ 13.Kf4 Re4+ 14.Kg5 Rg4+ (40.257.983) 1017
best move: Rf2-f4 time: 0:44.000 min  n/s: 1.017.386  nodes: 40.257.983 
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Uri Blass
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Uri Blass »

Vinvin wrote:Toga II 1.4 beta5c is even worse here and evaluate as a mate :(

It only mean that the programmers of Toga have bugs because fruit2.1
does not see mate score.

This is what happens when people who do not understand the source code try to change it.

They create search bugs.

New game
3Q4/8/5P2/8/4K3/6R1/5r1p/7k b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.1:

1...Rf2-f1
+- (10.95) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00
1...Rf2-f1 2.Qd8-d4
+- (11.29) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00
1...Rf2-f1 2.Qd8-d5 Rf1xf6 3.Ke4-d3+ Rf6-f3+ 4.Qd5xf3#
+- (#3) Depth: 3/8 00:00:00
1...Rf2-e2+ 2.Ke4-f4 Re2-f2+ 3.Kf4-e3 Rf2-g2 4.Rg3xg2 Kh1xg2
+- (13.36) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00
1...Rf2-d2 2.Qd8-a8 Rd2-g2 3.Rg3xg2 Kh1xg2
+- (13.31) Depth: 3/11 00:00:00
1...Rf2-d2 2.Qd8-a8 Rd2-g2 3.f6-f7 Rg2xg3 4.f7-f8Q
+- (13.60) Depth: 4/12 00:00:00
1...Rf2-d2 2.Qd8-a8 Rd2-a2 3.Qa8-d5 Ra2-g2 4.Rg3xg2 Kh1xg2
+- (13.69) Depth: 5/20 00:00:00
1...Rf2-d2 2.Qd8-a8 Rd2-a2 3.Qa8-d5 Ra2-d2 4.Qd5xd2
+- (19.95) Depth: 6/20 00:00:00 23kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kf2-f3 Re2-f2+ 5.Kf3-e3 Rf2-e2+ 6.Ke3-f4 Re2-g2 7.Rg3xg2 Kh1xg2
+- (13.40) Depth: 6/23 00:00:00 58kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kf2-f3 Re2-f2+ 5.Kf3-e3 Rf2-e2+ 6.Ke3-f4 Re2-f2+ 7.Kf4-g4 Rf2-g2 8.Rg3xg2 Kh1xg2
+- (13.33) Depth: 7/23 00:00:00 61kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kf2-f3 Re2-e3+ 5.Kf3-g4 Re3-e4+ 6.Kg4-f5 Re4-f4+ 7.Kf5-e6 Rf4xf6+ 8.Ke6-e5 Rf6-f5+ 9.Ke5xf5
+- (13.93) Depth: 8/29 00:00:01 73kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kf2-f3 Re2-e3+ 5.Kf3-g4 Re3-e4+ 6.Kg4-f5 Re4-f4+ 7.Kf5-e6 Rf4xf6+ 8.Ke6-e5 Rf6-f5+ 9.Ke5-d6 Rf5-f3 10.Rg3xf3
+- (13.58) Depth: 9/29 00:00:01 88kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-d4+ 4.Rg3-d3 Rd4xd8 5.Rd3xd8 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 7.Rd8-g8+ Kg2-h3 8.Rg8-h8+ Kh3-g2 9.Rh8xh1 Kg2xh1 10.Kd2-e3
+- (12.09) Depth: 10/29 00:00:01 238kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-d4+ 4.Rg3-d3 Rd4xd8 5.Rd3xd8 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 7.Rd8-g8+ Kg2-h3 8.Rg8-h8+ Kh3-g2 9.Rh8xh1 Kg2xh1 10.Kd2-e3 Kh1-g2
+- (11.41) Depth: 11/31 00:00:01 306kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-d4+ 4.Rg3-d3 Rd4xd8 5.Rd3xd8 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 7.Rd8-g8+ Kg2-h3 8.Rg8-h8+ Kh3-g2 9.Rh8xh1 Kg2xh1 10.Kd2-e3 Kh1-g2 11.Ke3-d4
+- (11.58) Depth: 12/34 00:00:01 453kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-d4+ 4.Rg3-d3 Rd4xd8 5.Rd3xd8 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 7.Rd8-g8+ Kg2-h3 8.Rg8-h8+ Kh3-g2 9.Rh8xh1 Kg2xh1 10.Kd2-e3 Kh1-g2 11.Ke3-f4 Kg2-f2
+- (11.34) Depth: 13/34 00:00:01 799kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-a3 Rb2-a2+ 7.Ka3-b4 Ra2-a4+ 8.Kb4-c3 Ra4-a3+ 9.Kc3-d2 Ra3xg3 10.f6-f7 Kh1-g2 11.Qd8-a8+ Kg2-g1 12.Qa8-a1+ Kg1-g2 13.f7-f8Q h2-h1Q 14.Qf8-a8+ Rg3-f3 15.Qa1xh1+ Kg2xh1 16.Qa8xf3+ Kh1-g1
+- (10.66) Depth: 14/40 00:00:01 1673kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-a3 Rb2-a2+ 7.Ka3-b4 Ra2-a4+ 8.Kb4-c3 Ra4-c4+ 9.Kc3-d2 Rc4-c2+ 10.Kd2-e3 Rc2-c3+ 11.Ke3-f4 Rc3-c4+ 12.Kf4-f3 Rc4-f4+ 13.Kf3-e2 Rf4-f2+ 14.Ke2-e3 Rf2-e2+ 15.Ke3-d4 Re2-d2+ 16.Rg3-d3
+- (10.77) Depth: 15/42 00:00:02 2567kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-a3 Rb2-a2+ 7.Ka3-b4 Ra2-a4+ 8.Kb4-c3 Ra4-c4+ 9.Kc3-d2 Rc4-c2+ 10.Kd2-e3 Rc2-c3+ 11.Ke3-f4 Rc3-c4+ 12.Kf4-f3 Rc4-c3+ 13.Kf3-g4 Rc3-c4+ 14.Kg4-f5 Rc4-c5+ 15.Kf5-e4 Rc5-c4+ 16.Ke4-e5 Rc4-c5+ 17.Ke5-d4
+- (10.79) Depth: 16/43 00:00:03 3981kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-a3 Rb2-a2+ 7.Ka3-b4 Ra2-a4+ 8.Kb4-c3 Ra4-c4+ 9.Kc3-d2 Rc4-c2+ 10.Kd2-e3 Rc2-c3+ 11.Ke3-f4 Rc3-c4+ 12.Kf4-f5 Rc4-c5+ 13.Kf5-e4 Rc5-c4+ 14.Ke4-f3 Rc4-f4+ 15.Kf3-e2 Rf4-f2+ 16.Ke2-e3 Rf2-e2+ 17.Ke3-d4
+- (10.77) Depth: 17/43 00:00:04 6736kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-c4 Rb2-b4+ 7.Kc4-c3 Rb4-b3+ 8.Kc3-d2 Rb3-b2+ 9.Kd2-e3 Rb2-b3+ 10.Ke3-f4 Rb3-b4+ 11.Kf4-f5 Rb4-b5+ 12.Kf5-e6 Rb5-b6+ 13.Ke6-e5 Rb6-e6+ 14.Ke5-f5 Re6-e5+ 15.Kf5-f4 Re5-e4+ 16.Kf4-f3 Re4-e3+ 17.Kf3-g4
+- (10.76) Depth: 18/49 00:00:10 14249kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-c4 Rb2-b4+ 7.Kc4-c3 Rb4-b3+ 8.Kc3-d2 Rb3-b2+ 9.Kd2-e3 Rb2-b3+ 10.Ke3-f4 Rb3-b4+ 11.Kf4-f3 Rb4-b3+ 12.Kf3-g4 Rb3-b4+ 13.Kg4-f5 Rb4-b5+ 14.Kf5-e6 Rb5-b6+ 15.Ke6-e5 Rb6-b5+ 16.Ke5-d4 Rb5-b4+ 17.Kd4-c5
+- (9.07) Depth: 19/53 00:01:00 84440kN
1...Rf2-f4+ 2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-d2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kd2-c3 Re2-c2+ 5.Kc3-b3 Rc2-b2+ 6.Kb3-a4 Rb2-b4+ 7.Ka4-a3 Rb4-a4+ 8.Ka3-b3 Ra4-a3+ 9.Kb3-b4 Ra3-a4+ 10.Kb4-c3 Ra4-c4+ 11.Kc3-d2 Rc4-c2+ 12.Kd2-e3 Rc2-e2+ 13.Ke3-f4 Re2-e4+ 14.Kf4-f3 Re4-e3+ 15.Kf3-g4 Re3-e4+ 16.Kg4-f5 Re4-f4+ 17.Kf5-e6
+- (9.00) Depth: 20/56 00:01:16 108067kN

(, 03.02.2008)

After Rf4+

New game
3Q4/8/5P2/8/4Kr2/6R1/7p/7k w - - 0 1

Analysis by Toga II 1.4 beta5c:

2.Ke4xf4
= (0.00) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d3
+- (10.12) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e3
+- (10.22) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d5
+- (10.31) Depth: 1/7 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Kd5-e4
+- (10.47) Depth: 2/7 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d3 Rf4-f3+ 3.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2
+- (18.10) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d3 Rf4-d4+ 3.Kd3-c2 Rd4xd8 4.f6-f7 Rd8-c8+ 5.Kc2-d2
± (0.81) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00
2.Ke4-d5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Kd5-d4 Rf5-f4+ 4.Kd4-e5
+- (10.31) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-f4+ 4.Rg3-f3
+- (10.36) Depth: 3/14 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-f4+ 4.Rg3-f3 Rf4-g4 5.Qd8-d1+ Rg4-g1
+- (10.59) Depth: 4/14 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e3 Rf4-e4+ 3.Ke3-f2 Re4-e2+ 4.Kf2-f3 Re2-e1 5.Qd8-d5
+- (10.74) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f4+ 4.Kd4-c3 Rf4-f3+ 5.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 Kg2xf3 7.f7-f8Q+ Kf3-g4 8.Qf8-g7+ Kg4-f3 9.Qd8-d5+ Kf3-e2
+- (18.38) Depth: 5/20 00:00:00
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f4+ 4.Kd4-c3 Rf4-f3+ 5.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 6.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 7.Qd8-g8+ Kg2xf3 8.Qg8-a8+ Kf3-f4 9.Qa8xh1 Kf4-e5 10.Qh1-h5+ Ke5-e4 11.f7-f8Q
+- (20.19) Depth: 6/24 00:00:00 25kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 6.Qd8-g8+ Kg2xf3 7.f7-f8Q+ Kf3-e2 8.Qf8-e8+ Ke2-f1 9.Qg8-f7+ Qh1-f3 10.Qf7xf3+ Kf1-g1 11.Qe8-g8+ Kg1-h2 12.Qg8-g3#
+- (#11) Depth: 7/27 00:00:00 62kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 6.Qd8-g8+ Kg2xf3 7.f7-f8Q+ Kf3-e2 8.Qg8-g4+ Ke2-e1 9.Qf8-b4+ Ke1-f2 10.Qb4-d2+ Kf2-f1 11.Qg4-d1#
+- (#10) Depth: 8/27 00:00:01 73kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.f6-f7 h2-h1Q 6.Qd8-g8+ Kg2xf3 7.f7-f8Q+ Kf3-e2 8.Qg8-g4+ Ke2-e1 9.Qf8-b4+ Ke1-f2 10.Qb4-d2+ Kf2-f1 11.Qg4-d1#
+- (#10) Depth: 9/27 00:00:01 102kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e4 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.f6-f7 Nh1-f2+ 8.Rf3xf2 Kg1-h1 9.Rf2-f1#
+- (#8) Depth: 10/27 00:00:01 172kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e4 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.f6-f7 Nh1-f2+ 8.Rf3xf2 Kg1-h1 9.Rf2-f1#
+- (#8) Depth: 11/27 00:00:01 234kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 12/27 00:00:01 305kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 13/27 00:00:01 392kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 14/27 00:00:01 539kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 15/27 00:00:01 749kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 16/27 00:00:02 1009kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 17/27 00:00:02 1312kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 18/27 00:00:02 1645kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 19/27 00:00:02 1973kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 20/27 00:00:02 2311kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 21/27 00:00:02 2648kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 22/27 00:00:02 2985kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 23/27 00:00:02 3323kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 24/27 00:00:03 3660kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 25/27 00:00:03 3998kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 26/27 00:00:03 4335kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 27/27 00:00:04 4673kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 28/27 00:00:04 5010kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 29/27 00:00:04 5348kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 30/27 00:00:04 5685kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 31/27 00:00:04 6023kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 32/27 00:00:04 6360kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 33/27 00:00:04 6695kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 34/27 00:00:04 7033kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 35/27 00:00:04 7370kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 36/27 00:00:05 7708kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 37/27 00:00:05 8045kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 38/27 00:00:05 8383kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 39/27 00:00:05 8721kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 40/27 00:00:05 9058kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 41/27 00:00:05 9396kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 42/27 00:00:05 9733kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 43/27 00:00:05 10071kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 44/27 00:00:05 10409kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 45/27 00:00:06 10746kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 46/27 00:00:06 11084kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 47/27 00:00:06 11422kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 48/27 00:00:06 11759kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 49/27 00:00:06 12097kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 50/27 00:00:06 12435kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 51/27 00:00:06 12772kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 52/27 00:00:07 13110kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 53/27 00:00:07 13447kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 54/27 00:00:07 13785kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 55/27 00:00:07 14123kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 56/27 00:00:07 14460kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 57/27 00:00:07 14798kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 58/27 00:00:07 15136kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 59/27 00:00:07 15473kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 60/27 00:00:07 15811kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 61/27 00:00:07 16149kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 62/27 00:00:07 16486kN
2.Ke4-e5 Rf4-f5+ 3.Ke5-d4 Rf5-f3 4.Rg3xf3 Kh1-g2 5.Kd4-e3 h2-h1N 6.Qd8-d2+ Kg2-g1 7.Rf3-h3 Nh1-f2 8.Qd2xf2#
+- (#7) Depth: 63/27 00:00:07 16824kN

(, 03.02.2008)
Thomas Gaksch

Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Thomas Gaksch »

great that you have no bugs in your program. by the way it is only a beta version and beta versions have bugs. but it could also be a pruning problem.
it is good that i do not understand the source code of fruit because more than 100 elo improvement wouldn´t be possible if i would understand the code.

Thomas
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Thomas Gaksch wrote:great that you have no bugs in your program. by the way it is only a beta version and beta versions have bugs. but it could also be a pruning problem.
it is good that i do not understand the source code of fruit because more than 100 elo improvement wouldn´t be possible if i would understand the code.

Thomas
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by BBauer »

No need to defend your self.
Don't listen to the toga haters, it's only envy.

Keep up the good work.
Great to see toga support multiple engines.
Great to see toga support bitbases.
Hope to see toga support bitbases and table bases in an efficient way.
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Re: Rybka and Zappa are wrong here

Post by Uri Blass »

Thomas Gaksch wrote:great that you have no bugs in your program. by the way it is only a beta version and beta versions have bugs. but it could also be a pruning problem.
it is good that i do not understand the source code of fruit because more than 100 elo improvement wouldn´t be possible if i would understand the code.

Thomas
I do not say that I have no bugs in my program.
It is also possible that I do not understand the code of my own program.

I do not know about positions when movei evaluates as mate when there is no mate but there were certainly positions when old versions of movei crashed or did other strange things.

Uri