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Rebel 16.3a seems to be stronger than....

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Could it be that Rebel 16.3a ist stronger (just a little bit) than CST TAL 2.07 (Elo optimised version)?

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Re: Rebel 16.3a seems to be stronger than....

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Alibaba wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2026 1:32 pm Could it be that Rebel 16.3a ist stronger (just a little bit) than CST TAL 2.07 (Elo optimised version)?

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It would not surprise me one bit
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Re: Rebel 16.3a seems to be stronger than....

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# Name                          Points     %     Elo   +/-   W-L-D         1     2     
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1 Chess System Tal 2.07 E1019   256.0/500  51.2  +8.3  19.8  112-100-288         51.2% 
2 Rebel 16.3a                   244.0/500  48.8    --    --  100-112-288   48.8%       

500/500 total games, time control:180+1, book:UHO_2024_6mvs_+085_+094.pgn
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Re: Rebel 16.3a seems to be stronger than....

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I know you have a monster PC, so take a look here. :oops:

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#  Name                           Points     %     Elo     +/-    W-L-D        1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9     10    11    12    13    14    15     16     17     18     19     20     21     22     23     24     25     
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 1 Reckless 0.9.0                 155.0/192  80.7  +248.9   38.8  +118-0=74          50.0% 56.2% 50.0% 56.2% 50.0% 62.5% 62.5% 68.7% 75.0% 75.0% 81.2% 87.5% 87.5% 93.7%  100.0% 93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 2 Stockfish 18                   154.5/192  80.5  +246.0   38.5  +117-0=75    50.0%       50.0% 50.0% 56.2% 56.2% 62.5% 62.5% 75.0% 75.0% 81.2% 81.2% 81.2% 93.7% 100.0% 87.5%  93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 93.7%  87.5%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 3 Revolution-5.90-140626         152.0/192  79.2  +231.9   37.8  +113-1=78    43.7% 50.0%       50.0% 50.0% 56.2% 50.0% 56.2% 81.2% 75.0% 75.0% 81.2% 81.2% 93.7% 81.2%  93.7%  87.5%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  
 4 Rems M-091024                  151.0/192  78.6  +226.5   36.5  +110-0=82    50.0% 50.0% 50.0%       56.2% 68.7% 50.0% 62.5% 68.7% 68.7% 87.5% 75.0% 87.5% 75.0% 87.5%  81.2%  87.5%  87.5%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 5 Obsidian dev-16.08             150.0/192  78.1  +221.1   38.2  +111-3=78    43.7% 43.7% 50.0% 43.7%       50.0% 56.2% 56.2% 68.7% 62.5% 81.2% 87.5% 87.5% 87.5% 93.7%  87.5%  81.2%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 6 Berserk 14                     145.5/192  75.8  +198.2   37.0  +104-5=83    50.0% 43.7% 43.7% 31.2% 50.0%       50.0% 56.2% 68.7% 56.2% 81.2% 75.0% 75.0% 93.7% 81.2%  100.0% 93.7%  93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 87.5%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 7 Tarnished v6.0 (Eternal)       144.5/192  75.3  +193.3   36.5  +102-5=85    37.5% 37.5% 50.0% 50.0% 43.7% 50.0%       62.5% 56.2% 56.2% 68.7% 68.7% 81.2% 93.7% 87.5%  100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  93.7%  87.5%  100.0% 93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 
 8 Viridithas 20.0.0-dev          138.0/192  71.9  +163.0   36.7  +95-11=86    37.5% 37.5% 43.7% 37.5% 43.7% 43.7% 37.5%       62.5% 68.7% 68.7% 75.0% 81.2% 81.2% 81.2%  87.5%  81.2%  93.7%  87.5%  93.7%  81.2%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
 9 Rebel 16.3a                    133.0/192  69.3  +141.2   40.5  +98-24=70    31.2% 25.0% 18.7% 31.2% 31.2% 31.2% 43.7% 37.5%       50.0% 75.0% 68.7% 87.5% 87.5% 75.0%  87.5%  100.0% 93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 
10 Chess System Tal 2.06 E1019    128.0/192  66.7  +120.4   37.8  +87-23=82    25.0% 25.0% 25.0% 31.2% 37.5% 43.7% 43.7% 31.2% 50.0%       62.5% 68.7% 56.2% 81.2% 81.2%  81.2%  81.2%  93.7%  100.0% 87.5%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
11 Alexander 7                    113.5/192  59.1   +64.1   39.5  +78-43=71    25.0% 18.7% 25.0% 12.5% 18.7% 18.7% 31.2% 31.2% 25.0% 37.5%       56.2% 56.2% 68.7% 62.5%  62.5%  93.7%  87.5%  100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 
12 Willow 4.0                     108.0/192  56.2   +43.7   39.1  +72-48=72    18.7% 18.7% 18.7% 25.0% 12.5% 25.0% 31.2% 25.0% 31.2% 31.2% 43.7%       31.2% 50.0% 68.7%  81.2%  81.2%  81.2%  87.5%  100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 
13 Winter 4.0 JA BMI2             105.0/192  54.7   +32.7   40.4  +73-55=64    12.5% 18.7% 18.7% 12.5% 12.5% 25.0% 18.7% 18.7% 12.5% 43.7% 43.7% 68.7%       68.7% 62.5%  62.5%  75.0%  75.0%  75.0%  93.7%  93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 100.0% 
14 Cheng 4.48a (bundled)           93.5/192  48.7    -9.0   41.4  +65-70=57    12.5% 6.2%  6.2%  25.0% 12.5% 6.2%  6.2%  18.7% 12.5% 18.7% 31.2% 50.0% 31.2%       37.5%  68.7%  81.2%  68.7%  100.0% 87.5%  93.7%  100.0% 93.7%  100.0% 100.0% 
15 Komodo 14.1 64-bit              92.5/192  48.2   -12.7   41.1  +63-70=59    6.2%  0.0%  18.7% 12.5% 6.2%  18.7% 12.5% 18.7% 25.0% 18.7% 37.5% 31.2% 37.5% 62.5%        68.7%  75.0%  68.7%  81.2%  75.0%  100.0% 100.0% 93.7%  87.5%  100.0% 
16 Myrddin 0.96                    75.0/192  39.1   -77.2   42.2  +47-89=56    0.0%  12.5% 6.2%  18.7% 12.5% 0.0%  0.0%  12.5% 12.5% 18.7% 37.5% 18.7% 37.5% 31.2% 31.2%         50.0%  62.5%  81.2%  75.0%  68.7%  62.5%  87.5%  100.0% 100.0% 
17 EveAnn 5.0 64-bit (bundled)     70.0/192  36.5   -96.5   43.9  +46-98=48    6.2%  6.2%  12.5% 12.5% 18.7% 6.2%  0.0%  18.7% 0.0%  18.7% 6.2%  18.7% 25.0% 18.7% 25.0%  50.0%         56.2%  68.7%  68.7%  87.5%  87.5%  81.2%  81.2%  100.0% 
18 IsaBB NN 4.5 (avx2, bundled)    64.5/192  33.6  -118.4   43.5  +38-101=53   6.2%  6.2%  0.0%  12.5% 6.2%  6.2%  6.2%  6.2%  6.2%  6.2%  12.5% 18.7% 25.0% 31.2% 31.2%  37.5%  43.7%         62.5%  68.7%  81.2%  81.2%  75.0%  75.0%  100.0% 
19 Sable 1.6                       54.5/192  28.4  -160.8   49.3  +39-122=31   0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  6.2%  6.2%  12.5% 6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  12.5% 25.0% 0.0%  18.7%  18.7%  31.2%  37.5%         68.7%  75.0%  87.5%  81.2%  87.5%  100.0% 
20 Critter 1.6a 64-bit             48.0/192  25.0  -190.8   50.2  +31-127=34   0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  12.5% 6.2%  0.0%  12.5% 6.2%  0.0%  6.2%  12.5% 25.0%  25.0%  31.2%  31.2%  31.2%         62.5%  87.5%  68.7%  87.5%  87.5%  
21 monty 1.0.0                     38.5/192  20.1  -240.3   55.8  +26-141=25   0.0%  12.5% 0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  12.5% 0.0%  18.7% 0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  6.2%  6.2%  6.2%  0.0%   31.2%  12.5%  18.7%  25.0%  37.5%         50.0%  68.7%  81.2%  87.5%  
22 Spike 1.4.1                     30.0/192  15.6  -293.0   61.4  +19-151=22   6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%   37.5%  12.5%  18.7%  12.5%  12.5%  50.0%         56.2%  56.2%  100.0% 
23 Crafty 25.2.1                   28.5/192  14.8  -303.5   62.0  +17-152=23   0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  6.2%   12.5%  18.7%  25.0%  18.7%  31.2%  31.2%  43.7%         68.7%  87.5%  
24 Colossus 2025b                  22.5/192  11.7  -350.8   67.8  +12-159=21   0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  6.2%  6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  12.5%  0.0%   18.7%  25.0%  12.5%  12.5%  18.7%  43.7%  31.2%         87.5%  
25 Pharaon 3.5.1                    4.5/192   2.3  -647.9  181.5  +2-185=5     0.0%  0.0%  6.2%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%  0.0%   0.0%   0.0%   0.0%   0.0%   12.5%  12.5%  0.0%   12.5%  12.5%         

2400/2400 total games, 30% draws, time control:120+1, book:avt-2026b.pgn