Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

Post by mariaclara »

Black gets a good game. with 8.e5 dxe5 line

Oct9 SM 8e5 dxe5 line 2007
1 2 3 4
Glaurung-SMP-32bit+88 **** 0111 1½1½ 010½ 7.5/12
Fruit-2-3-1 +29 1000 **** ½10½ 1½11 6.5/12
TogaII134 -29 0½0½ ½01½ **** ½½½1 5.5/12
Spike1.2 -88 101½ 0½00 ½½½0 **** 4.5/12


0 of 24 games played
Name of the tournament: Oct9 Smith Moraa 8.e5 dxe5 line
Site/ Country: VALLE-VERDE, United States
Level: Tournament Game in 15 Minutes
Hardware: Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2000 MHz with 1,984 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


Starting Position B21: Sicilian: 2 f4 and Morra Gambit} 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3 d6 6. Bc4 a6 7. Qe2 Nf6 8. e5 dxe5 9. O-O Bg4 10. h3 Bxf3
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................. Mu Shin ..........................
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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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mariaclara wrote:Black gets a good game. with 8.e5 dxe5 line

Oct9 SM 8e5 dxe5 line 2007
1 2 3 4
Glaurung-SMP-32bit+88 **** 0111 1½1½ 010½ 7.5/12
Fruit-2-3-1 +29 1000 **** ½10½ 1½11 6.5/12
TogaII134 -29 0½0½ ½01½ **** ½½½1 5.5/12
Spike1.2 -88 101½ 0½00 ½½½0 **** 4.5/12


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Without at least stats for Black/White your table doesn't help much to
verify your note about 'Black gets a good game'.

Guenther
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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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:oops: oooops.

...................................thanks 4 rminding me Guenther...

here are the results.

+2 =9 -13

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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

Post by GS »

mariaclara wrote::oops: oooops.

...................................thanks 4 rminding me Guenther...

here are the results.

+2 =9 -13

... :wink:
Thanks. That result looks like more than good for Black ;)
Obviously it is a bad line for White(and even more worse if the
Black side is a program) to sack the second pawn here.

I play the Morra quite often in blitz and rapid tourneys(not at
long time tournaments though) and never played 8. e5? instead
of the normal O-O followed by Rd1 so far. My huge database
even doesn't give a single game BTW with that line.

Guenther
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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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mariaclara wrote:Black gets a good game. with 8.e5 dxe5 line

Oct9 SM 8e5 dxe5 line 2007
1 2 3 4
Glaurung-SMP-32bit+88 **** 0111 1½1½ 010½ 7.5/12
Fruit-2-3-1 +29 1000 **** ½10½ 1½11 6.5/12
TogaII134 -29 0½0½ ½01½ **** ½½½1 5.5/12
Spike1.2 -88 101½ 0½00 ½½½0 **** 4.5/12


0 of 24 games played
Name of the tournament: Oct9 Smith Moraa 8.e5 dxe5 line
Site/ Country: VALLE-VERDE, United States
Level: Tournament Game in 15 Minutes
Hardware: Dual AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ 2000 MHz with 1,984 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)


Starting Position B21: Sicilian: 2 f4 and Morra Gambit} 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 dxc3 4.Nxc3 Nc6 5. Nf3 d6 6. Bc4 a6 7. Qe2 Nf6 8. e5 dxe5 9. O-O Bg4 10. h3 Bxf3
Could you please provide the position under examination rather than just the move? Surely it would be easier for you to do it rather than for others who have to play through the moves first.

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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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:D

...Hi Nicolai,

.i really want to, but i dont knw how.... :(

....sorry....
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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

Post by GS »

mariaclara wrote::D

...Hi Nicolai,

.i really want to, but i dont knw how.... :(

....sorry....
Copy the FEN of the GUI of our choice produces into the clipboard
and paste it here with a [d] before. (NOTE that the forum software
does not show diagrams in the preview!)

Guenther

Here are the positions to discuss:

After 8. e5? which I think is bad
[d]r1bqkb1r/1p2pppp/p1np1n2/4P3/2B5/2N2N2/PP2QPPP/R1B1K2R b KQkq - 0 8

After 10.... Bxf3 the start position for the test
[d]r2qkb1r/1p2pppp/p1n2n2/4p3/2B5/2N2b1P/PP2QPP1/R1B2RK1 w kq - 0 10
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Re: Oct 9 Smith Morra Start Position 8.e5 dxe5 24 games

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:D
......thanks Guenther.

i'll try and put up diagrams following ur instructions.

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..i will start tournaments with your positions.

..have a nice weekend Guenther... :wink:
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................. Mu Shin ..........................