smatovic wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm
Seriously, the M1 will be deprecated by the M2? Then you have to rebuild all your binaries, IMHO Homebrew is the way to go for Mac, just my 2 cents, if you want to start an M1 engine collection, that is on another table, or alike.
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Srdja
No. M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max and M1 Ultra obviously will not be obsolete due to M2. The Intel CPU are deprecated (on Mac) And I can use Brew also to compile Intel builds for Mac.
They are already obsolete now when alder-lakes, latest AMDs and RTX GPUs from Nvidia existts in mobile devices for chess... They will be even more obsolete down the road..
Perfect Chess Machine - My $700 Mac Mini M1, now that I have learned how to compile engines natively, using 8 cores at 37° Celsius reaches half computing speed of my brother's $2000 Ryzen 9 3900x using 24 threads. Not bad. Mac Studio computers are far too expensive for my budget, but probably with 700$ in 2023 I will buy a base Mac Mini M2 with the speed of an M1 Max.
Sorry for bursting your bubble, but for $600 you could have bought laptop with Ryzen 5700U CPU that would have 60% higher nps than your machine and you wouldn't need to do any of the compiling.
And if you are into computer building and don't mind a desktop machine for 800$ you could have built a configuration with i7-12700K that would have 4x nps of your Mini M1. That machine is gonna be faster than M2 at least 2 times and most probably faster than even M2 Max if it ever appears on the market. And that machine is currently faster than M1 Ultra that costs like 5 times more.
I get it, you are a Mac nerd, but 99.99% of the chess engine users are not and for them buying a Mac is simply a bad buy.
The neverending PC-MAC battle
I'm not an Apple fanboy, I HATE iPhone notch and I have a wonderful 300€ Realme GT Neo 2 with Snapdragon 870, 8 gb RAM and 128 gb storage.
Mac mini M1 is the only choice for having macOS M1, iOS, iPad OS, Windows 11 and Ubuntu 21-10 ARM64 with my limited budget.
h1a8 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:15 am
Geekbench cpu test is very accurate for chess. I prove this a little while ago.
Probably one of the dumbest statements on Talkchess I have read...
Most chess engines provide benchmarks and these are ofcourse the ONLY valid benchmarks for chess these days.. Geekbench btw has to be one of the shittiest benches of all time... Its the most retarded bench.. trying to compare cross platform and fails utterly.
Despite all useless trolls and haters here like Nemo (Nobody in Latin) & Co, I'm glad if I can help M1 users and I'll continue to add and update engines!
If you try to use all day a 600€ laptop for chess @95° Celsius, very likely you will burn it after 1 week. Only a retardness would act so.
My Mac mini is always on since 1 year and half and @40° Celsius, running all chess engines for Mac, Windows and Linux on a disposable external USB 3.1 SSD.
AlexChess wrote: ↑Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:03 am
If you try to use all day a 600€ laptop for chess @95° Celsius, very likely you will burn it after 1 week.
What?
AlexChess wrote:
My $700 Mac Mini M1, now that I have learned how to compile engines natively, using 8 cores at 37° Celsius reaches half computing speed of my brother's $2000 Ryzen 9 3900x using 24 threads.
Ryzen 9 3900x costs ~$500 and is not even remotely close to the best perf/value. For example can do 28M nps
All you're doing here is taking the worst case anecdotal evidence you can find to try to justify your dumb purchase.
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dangi12012 wrote:No one wants to touch anything you have posted. That proves you now have negative reputations since everyone knows already you are a forum troll.
Maybe you copied your stockfish commits from someone else too?
I will look into that.
Steve Maughan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:21 pm
Has anyone come any test attempting to measure how good the new Apple M1 Silicon will be for running chess engines?
Steve
I'm interested too, even if I cannot buy them because they are 100% compatible with base M1 and I'm interested to ARM spreading. I'll search in other forums like Macrumors.
Mac mini M1 8GB-256GB, Windows 11 & Ubuntu ARM64.