Discussion of computer chess matches and engine tournaments.
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Marc MP
Post by Marc MP Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:23 pm
I rated the tournament up to now and done a comparison with CCRL 40/4 single cpu engine list (offset = 2897):
http://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/404/cg ... ons_only=1 .
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Rank Name Elo + - games score oppo. draws CCRL DIFF
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 2955 31 31 225 61% 2889 53% 3067 -112
2 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 2926 32 31 225 55% 2893 47% 2848 78
3 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 2905 31 31 226 51% 2896 49% 2915 -10
4 Shredder 10.1 UCI 2900 31 31 225 50% 2897 52% 2853 47
5 Fritz 10 2899 31 31 226 50% 2896 56% 2883 16
6 Loop M1-P 2882 31 31 225 47% 2899 52% 2906 -24
7 Toga II 1.3x4/32 2868 31 31 226 45% 2901 50% 2871 -03
8 Junior 10.1 2843 31 31 226 40% 2905 52% 2835 08
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:07 pm
Larsson Endings test
Position Nr. 17:
[d]8/6b1/4k2p/p1p1p1p1/2P1K1P1/PP3N1P/8/8 w - - 1 2
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Shredder 10.1 UCI ** 01 0˝ 1˝ 1˝ ˝1 ˝1 ˝1 9.0/14
2 Toga II 1.3x4/32 10 ** ˝1 0˝ 0˝ ˝1 1˝ ˝˝ 7.5/14 51.75
3 Loop M1-P 1˝ ˝0 ** 01 ˝˝ 10 01 ˝1 7.5/14 51.25
4 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 0˝ 1˝ 10 ** ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ 7.5/14 49.75
5 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 0˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ ** ˝˝ ˝0 1˝ 7.0/14 47.00
6 Fritz 10 ˝0 ˝0 01 ˝˝ ˝˝ ** 1˝ ˝1 7.0/14 46.00
7 HIARCS 11.1 UCI ˝0 0˝ 10 ˝˝ ˝1 0˝ ** 1˝ 6.5/14
8 Junior 10.1 ˝0 ˝˝ ˝0 0˝ 0˝ ˝0 0˝ ** 4.0/14
Current standings (17/20)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ********* 17.5:16.5 18.5:15.5 19.5:14.5 20.5:13.5 21.5:12.5 23.0:11.0 24.0:10.0 144.5/238
2 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 16.5:17.5 ********* 19.0:15.0 17.5:16.5 18.0:16.0 19.0:15.0 20.5:13.5 20.5:13.5 131.0/238
3 Shredder 10.1 UCI 15.5:18.5 15.0:19.0 ********* 18.5:15.5 16.5:17.5 18.0:16.0 18.0:16.0 20.5:13.5 122.0/238
4 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 14.5:19.5 16.5:17.5 15.5:18.5 ********* 18.0:16.0 16.5:17.5 19.5:14.5 20.5:13.5 121.0/238
5 Fritz 10 13.5:20.5 16.0:18.0 17.5:16.5 16.0:18.0 ********* 17.5:16.5 18.0:16.0 21.5:12.5 120.0/238
6 Loop M1-P 12.5:21.5 15.0:19.0 16.0:18.0 17.5:16.5 16.5:17.5 ********* 17.0:17.0 18.0:16.0 112.5/238
7 Toga II 1.3x4/32 11.0:23.0 13.5:20.5 16.0:18.0 14.5:19.5 16.0:18.0 17.0:17.0 ********* 20.0:14.0 108.0/238
8 Junior 10.1 10.0:24.0 13.5:20.5 13.5:20.5 13.5:20.5 12.5:21.5 16.0:18.0 14.0:20.0 ********* 93.0/238
AMD Athlon64 3200+, 256MB hash, 15m+10s, GUI Fritz 10 (* ->Z.Z. only 32bit ...), 5TB+EGBB, 4Shrederbase.
download games here .
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:29 pm
Larsson Endings test
Position Nr. 18:
[d]2r3k1/4pp1p/3p2p1/p2R4/1r6/1P4P1/P3PP1P/R5K1 b - - 1 1
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ** ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝1 ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝1 ˝˝ 8.0/14 55.00
2 Shredder 10.1 UCI ˝˝ ** ˝˝ ˝1 ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ 8.0/14 54.50
3 Toga II 1.3x4/32 ˝˝ ˝˝ ** ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 7.5/14 51.75
4 HIARCS 11.1 UCI ˝0 ˝0 ˝˝ ** 1˝ 01 ˝1 ˝1 7.5/14 49.75
5 Fritz 10 ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 0˝ ** 1˝ ˝0 ˝˝ 6.5/14 45.75
6 Loop M1-P ˝˝ ˝˝ 0˝ 10 0˝ ** ˝˝ ˝1 6.5/14 45.25
7 Junior 10.1 ˝0 ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝0 ˝1 ˝˝ ** ˝˝ 6.5/14 45.00
8 Zap!Chess Zanzibar ˝˝ 0˝ ˝˝ ˝0 ˝˝ ˝0 ˝˝ ** 5.5/14
Current standings (18/20)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ********* 18.5:17.5 19.5:16.5 21.0:15.0 21.5:14.5 22.5:13.5 24.0:12.0 25.5:10.5 152.5/252
2 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 17.5:18.5 ********* 19.5:16.5 18.0:18.0 19.0:17.0 19.5:16.5 21.5:14.5 21.5:14.5 136.5/252
3 Shredder 10.1 UCI 16.5:19.5 16.5:19.5 ********* 20.0:16.0 17.5:18.5 19.0:17.0 19.0:17.0 21.5:14.5 130.0/252
4 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 15.0:21.0 18.0:18.0 16.0:20.0 ********* 19.5:16.5 17.5:18.5 20.5:15.5 22.0:14.0 128.5/252
5 Fritz 10 14.5:21.5 17.0:19.0 18.5:17.5 16.5:19.5 ********* 19.0:17.0 19.0:17.0 22.0:14.0 126.5/252
6 Loop M1-P 13.5:22.5 16.5:19.5 17.0:19.0 18.5:17.5 17.0:19.0 ********* 17.5:18.5 19.0:17.0 119.0/252
7 Toga II 1.3x4/32 12.0:24.0 14.5:21.5 17.0:19.0 15.5:20.5 17.0:19.0 18.5:17.5 ********* 21.0:15.0 115.5/252
8 Junior 10.1 10.5:25.5 14.5:21.5 14.5:21.5 14.0:22.0 14.0:22.0 17.0:19.0 15.0:21.0 ********* 99.5/252
AMD Athlon64 3200+, 256MB hash, 15m+10s, GUI Fritz 10 (* ->Z.Z. only 32bit ...), 5TB+EGBB, 4Shrederbase.
download games here .
PauloSoare
Posts: 1335Joined: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:30 amLocation: Cabo Frio, Brasil
Post by PauloSoare Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:06 am
Pavel, great work !
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:07 pm
Larsson Endings test
Position Nr. 19:
[d]3r4/7p/Rp4k1/5p2/4p3/2P5/PP3P1P/5K2 b - - 1 1
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Shredder 10.1 UCI ** ˝˝ ˝1 1˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ 8.5/14
2 HIARCS 11.1 UCI ˝˝ ** ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝1 8.0/14 54.25
3 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ˝0 ˝˝ ** ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ˝1 ˝1 8.0/14 53.00
4 Toga II 1.3x4/32 0˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ ** 10 ˝˝ ˝˝ 1˝ 7.0/14
5 Zap!Chess Zanzibar ˝˝ 0˝ 0˝ 01 ** 1˝ 0˝ 1˝ 6.5/14
6 Fritz 10 ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝˝ 0˝ ** ˝˝ ˝0 6.0/14 43.75
7 Junior 10.1 0˝ ˝˝ ˝0 ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ** 0˝ 6.0/14 42.00
8 Loop M1-P ˝˝ ˝0 ˝0 0˝ 0˝ ˝1 1˝ ** 6.0/14 41.25
Current standings (19/20)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ********* 20.0:18.0 20.0:18.0 22.0:16.0 22.5:15.5 24.0:14.0 25.0:13.0 27.0:11.0 160.5/266
2 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 18.0:20.0 ********* 20.5:17.5 18.5:19.5 20.5:17.5 21.0:17.0 22.5:15.5 22.0:16.0 143.0/266
3 Shredder 10.1 UCI 18.0:20.0 17.5:20.5 ********* 21.0:17.0 18.5:19.5 20.0:18.0 20.5:17.5 23.0:15.0 138.5/266
4 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 16.0:22.0 19.5:18.5 17.0:21.0 ********* 20.5:17.5 19.0:19.0 21.5:16.5 23.0:15.0 136.5/266
5 Fritz 10 15.5:22.5 17.5:20.5 19.5:18.5 17.5:20.5 ********* 19.5:18.5 20.0:18.0 23.0:15.0 132.5/266
6 Loop M1-P 14.0:24.0 17.0:21.0 18.0:20.0 19.0:19.0 18.5:19.5 ********* 18.0:20.0 20.5:17.5 125.0/266
7 Toga II 1.3x4/32 13.0:25.0 15.5:22.5 17.5:20.5 16.5:21.5 18.0:20.0 20.0:18.0 ********* 22.0:16.0 122.5/266
8 Junior 10.1 11.0:27.0 16.0:22.0 15.0:23.0 15.0:23.0 15.0:23.0 17.5:20.5 16.0:22.0 ********* 105.5/266
AMD Athlon64 3200+, 256MB hash, 15m+10s, GUI Fritz 10 (* ->Z.Z. only 32bit ...), 5TB+EGBB, 4Shrederbase.
download games here .
Last edited by Rubinus on Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:15 pm
Hi, Pablo
Probably, Shredder advantage is 5men shredderbase.
My choice
a) 256MB hash + cca 1MB shredderbase 34men
b) 128MB hash + cca 125MB shredderbase 345men.
At time have advantage RAM extra, e.g.
CSS
Best wishes Pavel Háse
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:34 pm
Larsson Endings test
Position Nr. 20:
[d]4b3/pp2kp1p/5bp1/8/8/4P3/PP2NPPP/3N2K1 w - - 1 2
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ** 1˝ 11 ˝1 11 ˝˝ 1˝ 1˝ 11.0/14
2 Toga II 1.3x4/32 0˝ ** ˝˝ 1˝ ˝˝ ˝1 1˝ 1˝ 8.5/14
3 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 00 ˝˝ ** ˝˝ 1˝ 1˝ ˝1 01 7.5/14 46.25
4 Shredder 10.1 UCI ˝0 0˝ ˝˝ ** ˝˝ ˝˝ ˝1 11 7.5/14 45.50
5 Loop M1-P 00 ˝˝ 0˝ ˝˝ ** ˝1 ˝˝ 1˝ 6.5/14
6 Junior 10.1 ˝˝ ˝0 0˝ ˝˝ ˝0 ** ˝˝ ˝˝ 5.5/14 39.25
7 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 0˝ 0˝ ˝0 ˝0 ˝˝ ˝˝ ** ˝1 5.5/14 35.25
8 Fritz 10 0˝ 0˝ 10 00 0˝ ˝˝ ˝0 ** 4.0/14
Standings
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
1 Rybka 2.3.2a/64 ********* 21.5:18.5 21.5:18.5 24.0:16.0 24.0:16.0 26.0:14.0 26.5:13.5 28.0:12.0 171.5/280
2 Zap!Chess Zanzibar 18.5:21.5 ********* 21.0:19.0 19.0:21.0 22.0:18.0 22.0:18.0 23.0:17.0 23.0:17.0 148.5/280
3 Shredder 10.1 UCI 18.5:21.5 19.0:21.0 ********* 22.0:18.0 20.5:19.5 21.0:19.0 21.0:19.0 24.0:16.0 146.0/280
4 HIARCS 11.1 UCI 16.0:24.0 21.0:19.0 18.0:22.0 ********* 21.5:18.5 20.5:19.5 22.5:17.5 24.5:15.5 144.0/280
5 Fritz 10 16.0:24.0 18.0:22.0 19.5:20.5 18.5:21.5 ********* 20.0:20.0 20.5:19.5 24.0:16.0 136.5/280
6 Loop M1-P 14.0:26.0 18.0:22.0 19.0:21.0 19.5:20.5 20.0:20.0 ********* 19.0:21.0 22.0:18.0 131.5/280
7 Toga II 1.3x4/32 13.5:26.5 17.0:23.0 19.0:21.0 17.5:22.5 19.5:20.5 21.0:19.0 ********* 23.5:16.5 131.0/280
8 Junior 10.1 12.0:28.0 17.0:23.0 16.0:24.0 15.5:24.5 16.0:24.0 18.0:22.0 16.5:23.5 ********* 111.0/280
AMD Athlon64 3200+, 256MB hash, 15m+10s, GUI Fritz 10 (* ->Z.Z. only 32bit ...), 5TB+EGBB, 4Shrederbase.
download games here .
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:00 am
Complement:
a) Shredder 64bit only Deep variant. Deep Shredder 10.1x64 increase speed cca 8% from Deep Shredder (I not legal user Deep version, 100 euros dear ..., if Rybka MP 59, Loop and Zap!chess 50, etc., so far not have multiCPU machine).
b) Loop M1-P for my computer AMD 3200+ very little speedly, than M1-T, max. 1%.
c) Zap!chess 64bit increase speed cca 35-40%, but GUI Fritz 10 not support 64bit CB engine
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d) Toga II 1.3x4 probably less than 1.2.1a (in endings, my sense).
ernest
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Post by ernest Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:48 pm
Rubinus wrote: Complement:
Are you using Bitbases with Toga II 1.3x4 ?
(I know there is a bug there, but how important I don't know...)
Rubinus
Posts: 1211Joined: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:05 pmLocation: PragueFull name: Pavel Háse
Post by Rubinus Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:18 pm
ernest wrote: Rubinus wrote: Complement:
Are you using Bitbases with Toga II 1.3x4 ?
(I know there is a bug there, but how important I don't know...)
Yes, EGBB 3-5men in
WBEC
My edit UCI file for Fritz10 (C:\Documents ...\user\Application Data\Chessbase\Engines.UCI\Toga II 1.3x4.uci):
[ENGINE]
Name=Toga II 1.3x4
Author=Thomas Gaksch and Fabien Letouzey
Filename=C:\Chess\UCI_WB_Engine\toga\TogaII.exe
[OPTIONS]
For Arena? I don't know
- probably edit arenaENG.cfg file. Compilation by Bryan Hofman probably bug (bad egbb.dll?) - try DOS Prompt.
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- probably edit arenaENG.cfg file. Compilation by Bryan Hofman probably bug (bad egbb.dll?) - try DOS Prompt.