pawnocchio 2.0 Pre, very strong, stronger as strong ... shortly ... strong!

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Frank Quisinsky
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Re: pawnocchio 2.0 Pre, very strong, stronger as strong ... shortly ... strong!

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https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_etoc-g.htm
Thats what I do official.
Here I am using the v3 compile.

In my private ratinglist also very strong results.
AVX2 should be compiles v3 I think.
Works on my Intel i9-10900k and AMD 5950x (here faster as with the ZEN3 compile).

Best
Frank

At the moment I am not sure, but it's possible ... I have not enough games ... that in the phase
late mid-game, transition into endgame ... at the moment the strongest available engine.
After Elo calculation for this game-phase only, engine is on place 2, SF is on 1.
But very very closed and I haven't enough games. OK, I am using here very passive balanced opening positions for my private experimental rating list with TOP-41 engines.

Possible that with more aggressive opening positions the results aren't quite as strong. pawnocchio isn't an attacker. But again, I am very surprised. The playing-style is ... especially!!
peter
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Re: pawnocchio 2.0 Pre, very strong, stronger as strong ... shortly ... strong!

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cpeters wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 6:17 pm
peter wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 1:08 pm Hardware was single thread of 16x4.3GHz CPU, 30 concurrencies.

Edit: tried 5 concurrencies with 6 threads per engine and 10 concurrencies single thread too, each time the same, always illegal moves from pawnocchio at once after book moves' ends.
Could you elaborate please? Especially this:
5 concurrencies with 6 threads per engine
10 concurrencies single thread
Shouldn't be a problem. Are there log-files?

greetings
No log-files, concurrencies are the instances that run concurrently, but as told, possible 32 threads never were used to full extend but at highest 30 and with 10 single threads out of the 32 used, CuteChess GUI yet also always commented the stop of games with illegal move from Pawnocchio's side at once after book- moves. I didn't try with single instance (concurrency) so far,, but I'd bet, it woul be the same, can't try at the moment, hardware's busy, but as soon as I have it free again, I'll try this too to be sure, will return to this only, if it yet would matter. And in Fritz20 and in Shredde13 up to 30 of the 32 threads were used without problems (6 threads per engine, of course ponder off, 5 concurrencies see match against Dragon 3.3 above)
peter wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 6:02 pm Dragon3.3 - Pawnocchio2.0
34.5 - 46.5 (81: +14, =41, -26) 42.59% Perf = -51 Elo
( 42.5% TP = -51 Elo 68%->[-86,-28] 95%->[-122,-5] 99.7%->[-161,+17] )
81 games played
BTW here after 100 games:
Dragon3.3 - Pawnocchio2.0 43.0 - 57.0 (100: +17, =52, -31) 43.00% Perf = -48 Elo
( 43.0% TP = -48 Elo 68%->[-80,-28] 95%->[-112,-8] 99.7%->[-146,+11] )
100 games played
Peter.
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Re: pawnocchio 2.0 Pre, very strong, stronger as strong ... shortly ... strong!

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Frank Quisinsky wrote: Wed Apr 08, 2026 7:01 pm https://www.amateurschach.de/main/_etoc-g.htm
Thats what I do official.
Here I am using the v3 compile.

In my private ratinglist also very strong results.
AVX2 should be compiles v3 I think.
Works on my Intel i9-10900k and AMD 5950x (here faster as with the ZEN3 compile).

Best
Frank

At the moment I am not sure, but it's possible ... I have not enough games ... that in the phase
late mid-game, transition into endgame ... at the moment the strongest available engine.
After Elo calculation for this game-phase only, engine is on place 2, SF is on 1.
But very very closed and I haven't enough games. OK, I am using here very passive balanced opening positions for my private experimental rating list with TOP-41 engines.

Possible that with more aggressive opening positions the results aren't quite as strong. pawnocchio isn't an attacker. But again, I am very surprised. The playing-style is ... especially!!
I compared 4 versions: ver2 , ver3 , znver2 , znver3. znver2 is the fastest on my Ryzen 5 3600 avx2.