chessbase houdini is out but...

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yanquis1972
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Re: chessbase houdini is out but...

Post by yanquis1972 »

Dann Corbit wrote:People who win the WMCCC put "World Champion" on their box.

Houdini is the strongest tactical solver in the world, without a doubt.
what do you base that on?? if you have 'tactical mode' checked, sure, but then the apples to apples comparison would be something like SF matefinder.
Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: chessbase houdini is out but...

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

MikeB wrote:
stavros wrote:https://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/ ... or_version

"...strongest program in the world."
sorry????????????????

its not a false advert.and illegal???
The advertisement wording is perfectly legal taken in the context it is used.

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"The preliminary release version of Houdini 5 won convincingly ahead of all other top programs in the recent “TCEC Season 9 Rapid” tournament, scoring 56 point from 62 games (50 wins and 12 draws). The final release of Houdini 5 surpasses even this performance by another 30 Elo points, making it currently the strongest program in the world."
The way this is worded is called "puffing". It uses a statement in fact - Houdini won blah, blah, and then expresses the opinion of the seller which may be a slight exaggeration. There is no basis for a false advertising lawsuit. If it had not won the blah , blah blah , but had stated it won blah , blah,blah , there would be a basis for a lawsuit.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Puffing
always good to have a lawyer/certified accountant around. :)

still, I like puffballs more.
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Re: chessbase houdini is out but...

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

hgm wrote:Well, if it won the latest TCEC Rapid, this seems a fully justified claim. Evenan idiot would understand that claims of this nature are a 'snapshot', and cannot be valid forever.

The 'regular' TCEC seems to have very little relevance for the average user anyway. Which fraction of those would have 20-core machines?
rigth, a snapshot, valid for another 48 hours, until TCEC ends, and SF becomes the confirmed strongest engine in the world, for a bit longer period of time.

I find nothing morally/not to mention legally wrong in such ads, just a bit incorrect.