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Does any engine find a5 in this position?
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Terry McCracken
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
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ernest
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
You are right! How do you define "twice as strong"?Terry McCracken wrote:Even if you get twice the speed it doesn't equate as twice as strong.
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Laskos
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
To score 2/3 against the opponenternest wrote:You are right! How do you define "twice as strong"?Terry McCracken wrote:Even if you get twice the speed it doesn't equate as twice as strong.
(means 120 Elo points more, which is more than 60-70 points from doubling the speed).
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Terry McCracken
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
Win 99.999% of the time, virtually unbeatable, even draws will almost never ever happen. Also, most games are over before move 20! Twice as Strong!ernest wrote:You are right! How do you define "twice as strong"?Terry McCracken wrote:Even if you get twice the speed it doesn't equate as twice as strong.
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Uri
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
It's clearly not twice as strong I exaggerated but the 64 bit version of Rybka 3 is clearly stronger than the 32 bit version of Rybka. I don't know by how much though.Terry McCracken wrote:Win 99.999% of the time, virtually unbeatable, even draws will almost never ever happen. Also, most games are over before move 20! Twice as Strong!
64 bit Rybka is stronger because it gives the RAM a larger, 64-bit address space.
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Laskos
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
It's not because of that, RAM doesn't matter, as 2Giga are enough for even a long game. 60-70% speedup is due to the fact that Rybka is a bitboard engine, unlike Fruit.Zlatnik wrote: 64 bit Rybka is stronger because it gives the RAM a larger, 64-bit address space.
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Vinvin
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
Exactly !
Chessboard is represented by a 64 bits binary, with a 64 bits CPU, the functions on this bitboard is made in 1 times on 32 bits CPU, they are made in 2 times.
Chessboard is represented by a 64 bits binary, with a 64 bits CPU, the functions on this bitboard is made in 1 times on 32 bits CPU, they are made in 2 times.
Laskos wrote:It's not because of that, RAM doesn't matter, as 2Giga are enough for even a long game. 60-70% speedup is due to the fact that Rybka is a bitboard engine, unlike Fruit.Zlatnik wrote: 64 bit Rybka is stronger because it gives the RAM a larger, 64-bit address space.
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Uri
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
Phil Harris's Rybka is much stronger than mine. I don't know if it's 2 times stronger but it's much stronger than mine.
He uses an Intel core i7 920 with 3 GB of DDR3 and a 64-bit operating system which yields much better results than "my" Rybka. His rybka does in only 2 or 3 seconds what mine does in about 8 or sometimes even 20 minutes.
He uses an Intel core i7 920 with 3 GB of DDR3 and a 64-bit operating system which yields much better results than "my" Rybka. His rybka does in only 2 or 3 seconds what mine does in about 8 or sometimes even 20 minutes.
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Robert Weck
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
if twice as strong means winning 99.999%, how much is 4, 10, 20 times as strong?...Terry McCracken wrote: Win 99.999% of the time, virtually unbeatable, even draws will almost never ever happen. Also, most games are over before move 20! Twice as Strong!
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Matthias Gemuh
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Re: Does any engine find a5 in this position?
Robert Weck wrote:if twice as strong means winning 99.999%, how much is 4, 10, 20 times as strong?...Terry McCracken wrote: Win 99.999% of the time, virtually unbeatable, even draws will almost never ever happen. Also, most games are over before move 20! Twice as Strong!![]()
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twice as strong means one is 3000 elo strong, the other is 6000 elo strong.
20x as strong means one is 3000 elo strong, the other is 60000 elo strong.
Matthias.
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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