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Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
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Nope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.
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? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 pmNope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.
If that did not fix it, I will try again. I just need to know, as I never see the problem myself.
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Wait, I'm getting confused with Minic, but I'm sure Ethereal is still having problems (maybe due to gui). Let me re-check that, will come back to you later (with logs).AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:42 pm? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 pmNope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.
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Its possible my solution was not exact enough to address all potential cases. So if you say it has problems with the current versions, then it has problems, no hand-waving about it. Ill tinker with it and think about it while I await your reply.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:48 pmWait, I'm getting confused with Minic, but I'm sure Ethereal is still having problems (maybe due to gui). Let me re-check that, will come back to you later (with logs).AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:42 pm? We resolved your pondering issue if I recall. https://github.com/AndyGrant/Ethereal/c ... 41943eedc3 and then I sent you updated binaries and you confirmed them to be working? Did I miss a posting from you? If so do you have any more UCI logs from these pondering games? They seem to be the only source of issues ever.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:57 pmNope. Andrew says there's a problem with Ethereal itself, so I'm waiting for a fixed release.
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
It's live now on my twitch channel if you wanna look. So far so good. I suspect the GUI is having problems with FRC (specially with castling). I just reported several bugs about it.AndrewGrant wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:50 pm Its possible my solution was not exact enough to address all potential cases. So if you say it has problems with the current versions, then it has problems, no hand-waving about it. Ill tinker with it and think about it while I await your reply.
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Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?
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Time issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx ARGraham Banks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:15 am Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?
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Increase Move Overhead if the GUI is laggy, so that one is solved already.supersharp77 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:13 amTime issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx ARGraham Banks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:15 am Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?
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Re: Commercial Release of Ethereal 13.00 (NNUE) for AVX2 Systems
No problems in ChessGUI, but is losing all of its games under Shredder.supersharp77 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:13 amTime issues In Fritz Gui (Like almost all the other Versions) What problems is it having in the Shredder GUI? I don't recall time losses in Banksia or Chess OK.....Thx ARGraham Banks wrote: ↑Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:15 am Has anybody had success using Ethereal 13.00 in the Shredder GUI?
Examples below. It's lost 10 games straight.
[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.25"]
[Round "1.3"]
[White "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[ECO "E04"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. d4 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s}
3. g3 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 4. c4 {book 0s} dxc4 {book
0s} 5. Bg2 {book 0s} Bb4+ {book 0s} 6. Bd2 {book 0s} a5
{book 0s} 7. Qc2 {book 0s} Bxd2+ {book 0s} 8. Qxd2 {book
0s} c6 {book 0s} 9. a4 {book 0s} Ne4 {-0.20/23 55s} 10. Qf4
{+0.57/31 34s} Qb6 {-0.20/20 17s (Nd6)} 11. Ne5 {+0.29/27
26s (Qc1)} Nd6 {-0.20/21 23s (Qb4+)} 12. O-O {+0.89/32 29s
(Qc1)} Qb4 {-0.20/23 41s (f6)} 13. Na3 {+1.08/32 40s (Qc1)}
O-O {-0.20/23 26s (f6)} 14. Rfc1 {+1.49/29 32s (g4)} f6
{+0.20/22 1:01m} 15. Nexc4 {+1.22/29 23s} Nxc4 {+0.20/24
17s (Rd8)} 16. Nxc4 {+1.90/30 27s (Rxc4)} e5 {+0.20/28 46s}
17. dxe5 {+1.95/35 1:12m} Be6 {+0.20/28 44s} 18. Nd6
{+1.95/36 28s} Qxf4 {+0.20/31 18s (Qb6)} 19. gxf4 {+3.26/32
24s} fxe5 {+0.20/33 20s} 20. fxe5 {+3.31/32 48s} g6
{+0.20/32 18s (Ra7)} 21. Nxb7 {+5.09/28 26s} Ra7 {+0.20/33
19s} 22. Nc5 {+5.11/30 47s} Bf5 {+0.20/32 18s (Bg4)}
23. Ra3 {+5.47/27 24s (Nb3)} Nd7 {+0.48/28 3:09m} 24. Re3
{+5.52/27 21s (Bxc6)} Nxc5 {+0.40/27 23s (Rb8)} 25. Rxc5
{+5.69/30 30s} Rc8 {+0.20/30 1:11m (Kg7)} 26. b3 {+6.19/28
25s (Bxc6)} Kg7 {+0.20/31 9s (Be6)} 27. Bh3 {+6.42/31 1:27m
(e6)} Bxh3 {+0.20/34 11s} 28. Rxh3 {+6.27/28 18s} Ra6
{+0.20/34 25s (Rf8)} 29. Kg2 {+6.47/29 19s (e6)} Rca8
{+0.20/35 8s (Rb8)} 30. Rd3 {+6.99/27 21s (Rhc3)} R8a7
{+0.20/32 11s (Rb8)} 31. f4 {+7.54/31 58s (e6)} Rf7
{+0.20/32 9s (Rb7)} 32. e3 {+7.68/31 53s (Kh1)} Re7
{+0.20/29 10s (Rb7)} 33. Kf3 {+7.82/31 44s (f5)} Rb7
{+0.20/33 53s (Kf7)} 34. h4 {+7.89/29 14s (Rdc3)} Kf8
{+0.20/32 7s (Kf7)} 35. Rdc3 {+8.14/27 13s (e6)} Rbb6
{+0.20/36 9s} 36. Kg4 {+8.28/27 9s (Rd3)} Kf7 {+0.20/31 7s
(Rb7)} 37. Kg5 {+8.57/25 7s (f5)} Kg7 {+3.48/27 19s (Ra7)}
38. h5 {+8.87/28 19s (Rd3)} h6+ {+5.81/27 23s (Kf7)}
39. Kg4 {+9.40/25 10s} Rb4 {+6.31/28 25s (gxh5+)} 40. Rxc6
{+11.02/28 11s (hxg6)} 1-0[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.25"]
[Round "2.3"]
[White "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[Black "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[ECO "B15"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e4 {book 0s} c6 {book 0s} 2. Nc3 {book 0s} d5 {book 0s}
3. d4 {book 0s} dxe4 {book 0s} 4. Nxe4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book
0s} 5. Nxf6+ {book 0s} exf6 {book 0s} 6. c3 {book 0s} Bd6
{book 0s} 7. Bd3 {book 0s} O-O {book 0s} 8. Qc2 {book 0s}
h6 {book 0s} 9. Kf1 {-0.20/19 55s} c5 {-0.89/29 36s (Re8)}
10. dxc5 {+0.20/30 24s} Bxc5 {-0.88/30 52s (Bc7)} 11. Bf4
{+0.20/25 1:40m} Qb6 {-0.74/28 1:42m (Kh8)} 12. Rd1
{+0.20/28 18s (Nf3)} a5 {-1.08/27 23s (f5)} 13. b4
{+0.10/23 3:20m (Nf3)} axb4 {-4.00/28 47s (Be7)} 14. cxb4
{-0.20/25 14s} Qxb4 {-4.15/28 59s (Bxb4)} 15. Ne2 {-0.20/25
18s (Bxb8)} Nc6 {-4.45/29 30s (Bg4)} 16. Rb1 {-0.20/26 14s
(Bc4)} Qa3 {-4.30/26 20s} 17. Rb3 {-0.20/29 12s (Kg1)} Qxa2
{-6.04/27 28s} 18. Rb2 {-2.64/28 1:54m (Qxa2)} Qa1+
{-6.59/27 1:11m (Qa7)} 19. Rb1 {-1.76/30 2:00m} Qa7
{-6.31/30 17s (Qa3)} 20. Be4 {-3.76/26 41s (h3)} Re8
{-6.90/27 25s (Bxf2)} 21. Bf3 {-4.95/26 33s (Ng3)} Bxf2
{-7.08/27 36s} 22. h3 {-5.43/27 22s (h4)} Be3 {-7.20/27
17s} 23. Rd1 {-6.04/29 20s} Be6 {-7.61/27 16s (Bxf4)} 0-1[/pgn]
[pgn][Event "40 Moves in 16 min"]
[Site "Revenge Gauntlet, GRAHAM-Z87"]
[Date "2021.07.26"]
[Round "3.3"]
[White "Revenge 1.0 64-bit"]
[Black "Ethereal 13.00 64-bit"]
[ECO "A33"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. c4 {book 0s} c5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s}
3. d4 {book 0s} cxd4 {book 0s} 4. Nxd4 {book 0s} Nf6 {book
0s} 5. Nc3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 6. a3 {book 0s} Bc5 {book
0s} 7. Nb3 {book 0s} Bb6 {book 0s} 8. e4 {book 0s} O-O
{book 0s} 9. Be2 {+0.06/26 36s} a5 {+0.20/22 26s (d6)}
10. c5 {+0.43/28 44s} a4 {+0.20/26 38s (Bc7)} 11. cxb6
{+0.60/29 23s} axb3 {+0.20/28 22s} 12. Bf4 {+0.60/31 27s
(Qxb3)} e5 {+0.20/28 22s (Qxb6)} 13. Be3 {+1.14/29 50s} Ne8
{+0.20/29 34s (d6)} 14. Qxb3 {+2.94/29 22s (Bb5)} Nd4
{+0.20/32 28s (d6)} 15. Bxd4 {+3.48/34 28s} exd4 {+0.20/34
1:00m} 16. Nd5 {+3.56/33 1:24m} Nf6 {+0.20/33 17s} 17. O-O
{+3.56/34 25s (Nc7)} Nxd5 {+0.20/30 25s} 18. exd5 {+3.56/33
33s} Qf6 {+0.20/32 28s (Re8)} 19. Rfc1 {+4.29/28 29s (Bd3)}
Qd6 {+0.20/31 25s (Re8)} 20. Rc7 {+5.39/30 55s (Bd3)} g6
{+0.20/32 26s (Qe5)} 21. Rd1 {+6.36/29 1:04m (Bd3)} Kg7
{+0.20/28 1:28m (Qe5)} 22. Rxd4 {+6.73/29 23s (g3)} Qf6
{+3.56/29 1:41m (Re8)} 23. Qb4 {+6.96/26 21s (Rdc4)} d6
{+3.70/31 1:07m} 24. h3 {+7.12/28 36s (Rf4)} h5 {+3.62/27
1:01m} 25. a4 {+7.45/27 25s (Rf4)} Qe5 {+3.29/27 1:15m
(Rb8)} 26. Re4 {+7.71/24 18s} Qxd5 {+4.44/27 21s (Qg5)}
27. Bf3 {+7.81/27 24s} Be6 {+4.94/27 23s (Qg5)} 28. Re3
{+8.22/28 16s} Qa2 {+5.24/29 37s} 29. b3 {+8.09/28 17s
(Ra3)} Qa1+ {+5.83/25 31s (Bxb3)} 30. Re1 {+9.87/27 28s
(Kh2)} 1-0[/pgn]
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